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[ttuuxxx]

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2020/01/the-pinephone-starts-shipping-a-linux-powered-smartphone-for-150/?fbclid=IwAR03kuIVyUxFrpeX0FCf3pTNVXBKq0TOMk__SBLUZAMT5brhO2eQb8KCagg looks like it could be very possible to make a Puppy OS for this phone, it boots off a SD card and has switches to shut off things like the Modem/GPS, Wi-Fi/Bluetooth, microphone, rear camera, and front camera. If we are going to support this phone, let me know I'll buy one and help with its development.
ttuuxxx

[ttuuxxx]

Looks like they are already sold out, well that's not good, also they say its normal to have a few dead pixels on a phone, well I've had a mobile phone since the early 1990's and never once have I ever had a dead pixel on the screen. https://store.pine64.org/?product=pinephone-braveheart-limited-edition-linux-smartphone-for-early-adaptor

[foxpup]

Hi ttuuxxx.
This is exiting!!
Imagine a smartphone on Puppy!
I would love that.

[BarryK]

What you need to be wary of is battery life and overheating.

It is (probably) the penalty of using a SoC not designed for a phone, and a separate modem, also not designed for a phone.

Unless the Purism developers pull a rabbit out of the hat, it is killing the Librem 5 phone project.

Battery is flat after about 2.5 hours. That is for "Chestnut", the second-generation version:

https://forums.puri.sm/t/also-got-my-chestnut-yesterday-but-struggling-with-battery-life/8315

https://www.reddit.com/r/Purism/comments/ejuoei/chestnut_review_initial_impressions/

https://forums.puri.sm/c/librem/phones

[ttuuxxx]

[BarryK]

[enrique]

I am more pessimistic that you guys. I do not see that having this kind of open source Linux phone is the answer. Not the answer when it is composed of much lower resources than a normal phone. And even less if there is no builtin OS for it. What we need is a cellphone manufacturer that allow their phone to be total unlock at lower prices. This obsession to signing and locking boot loaders is way out of place. But the people had become like stock animals. They buy crap because that is what everyone else does. Where is the sense of independence and having a will to buy ONLY what we want and how we want it. Just in case this last comment has nothing to do with this Linux Smartphone. But to those that buy a Iphone or latest Android when they do not even know why they need such a product. Just because they think a successful person needs to buy that model or brand.

[don570]

best video so far

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pc2bxRBt3NY
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pinephone uses Quectel EG25-G LTE modem
https://www.quectel.com/product/eg25g.htm

a wide range of M2M and IoT applications such as industrial router, industrial PDA, rugged tablet PC, video surveillance, and digital signage.

[BarryK]

[enrique]

Before I need to say when I LOOK at things, I am at least 10% paranoid. But in reality when I ACT I may do only 1% paranoid. So from some what paranoid guy like me, then It will be sound weird to minimize this threat.

From your last comets , maybe I see now what is your point. You are studding this as phone that is better secure than regular phone. Uhhm! It is not just to have Linux on it.

Wao I can not accept or deny your points. But the threat on:
*"The circuitry inside a SoC is immensely complex, and we don't know what is in there, it is just a black box"
* " firmware blobs"
**The constant update ( I am adding this)

This will apply to ALL our electronics, so even our Puppy Linux are in this category as it run on similar hardware/software limitation. My point is we will never now. See that I have not included by name any of your suggested new devices. As this is a condition we all face.

Conclusion. I have not install on my old phones a full Linux OS like the Ubuntu phone video. But I have run Debian withing Android in chroot environment. This provides me with the more or less extra freedom I need. About Security!! Well As I said I do not know.

But here my MAIN POINT. My current phone Galaxy S5, a gift. 6 years old and I can say it has better characteristics. Even my OLD Galaxy S(1) that has 10 years old seems to compete with the suggested phones. Except for the much wider screen size. And this is not a promotion to a trademark. Galaxy S is the LAST phone I had buy. Shame on you NSA, Google, Samsung, kernel.org and even Intel, witch destroy what was the best open source phone technology we had. It was all fine until 4.X, where we start seen the Lock on here and there.

I will be keeping an eye on your post here in the future. Good lock and hope you find that better phone we all need.

[don570]

Another video of phone using Ubuntu Touch
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ST_BjKicTAk
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[don570]

postmarketOS reported success with phone calls on today's twitter

https://twitter.com/thepine64/status/1230636204120559618

So I checked their change log...

[don570]

pinephone now supports kernel 5.6-rc3 and will soon support 5.7
https://twitter.com/nullr0ute/status/1233494600163172359

[BarryK]

A report on battery life of the Librem 5:

Now up to 6 hours on standby:

https://forums.puri.sm/t/battery-run-time-time-on-standby/8014/40

...but that is with the modem turned off!!!

I can't find the link now, but there was a recent report that the PinePhone was getting 12 hours on standby ...I do hope that is with the modem running, so that it can receive calls!

[bigpup]

This things seems to be just a small tablet computer, with the ability to make phone calls.
Well, that is more or less what smart phones now are.