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bigpup
 Joined: 11 Oct 2009 Posts: 13981 Location: S.C. USA |
Check your E-mail service provider settings and make sure it is not stopping stuff from the forum, because it is coming from a http and not a https site. _________________ The things they do not tell you, are usually the clue to solving the problem. When I was a kid I wanted to be older.... This is not what I expected 
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rockedge
 Joined: 11 Apr 2012 Posts: 1874 Location: Connecticut, United States |
That was the original intent of the test site. To practice transferring the entire murga forum content to the new phpBB code. I even had the phpBB developers interested in giving advice on how to export and import the SQL file dump and attachments for a successful upgrade of a forum that contains over a million posts and threads and has 42000 plus users. The hold up for testing is getting our hands on the MySQL .sql dump file and the actual collection of attachments. That's were we stand at the moment. No SQL export there can be no conversion to the new forum. We need access to the murga server to do the export of the database. |
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Sylvander
Joined: 15 Dec 2008 Posts: 4439 Location: West Lothian, Scotland, UK |
I contacted my ISP [free] tech assistance. He says he has made changes so that any/all things which were not being accepted will now BE accepted. So I'll wait and see if that fixes the problem. 
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greengeek
 Joined: 20 Jul 2010 Posts: 5834 Location: Republic of Novo Zelande |
The preview window loses all content and goes blank or else logs me out 95% of the time when I post via cellphone link. I suspect this is an ISP fault rather than a forum timeout but I am not sure. |
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Flash
Official Dog Handler  Joined: 04 May 2005 Posts: 13653 Location: Arizona USA |
The forum could be backed up, though John Murga is the only one who can do it. As for somehow incorporating it into a newer forum, or moving it to a new forum, that's the $64,000 question. Previous discussions seem to come to the consensus that it would be hard to do. I have no idea, myself. I remember that someone posted a script (in the How-to section, I think) that would download entire threads. That may be the best we could hope for. But then someone would have to curate each thread to make it useful. That would be a monumental job. |
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musher0
Joined: 04 Jan 2009 Posts: 15041 Location: Gatineau (Qc), Canada |
Hi Flash. I understand your loyalty towards John Murga. And we should all be grateful to him... -- (me included, even if I'm not sure I'd personally like the guy given what I perceive as -- his arrogance -- but even an arrogant person can have a generous side -- so saying -- it out loud, I'm getting this obstacle out of the way.) ... for letting us Puppyists use his bandwith, making it available for this great forum free of charge for so many years. So I'll separate the forum problem from the personality problem. The forum problem appears to be -- this forum is getting old, we need to replace it rather urgently, according to rockedge, saving as much content as possible. Correct? -- the owner of this forum has been incommunicado for an unreasonable number of months. I suppose everybody hopes he's ok, given the current pandemic, but it still puts us Puppyists in an very awkward position. I realize I'm not as technical as some others here. However I did help member augras test a parallel forum, and did some research myself on a number of forum platforms a few years ago. So I do know a couple of things about forums. Many forums have database import capacity from one type of forum to another. Because that's what a collection of forum posts are, a database. It seems that some forum platforms do this type of import better than others. Has anybody here done serious research on search engines concerning forum import? If so, what were the results? Tangent question: how far would we get copying this forum with a "syphon" (aka "vacuum") software? (E.g. HTTrack) Regards. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ PS I wrote the above post in good faith, and I hope everybody reading it is also in good faith. If there are hidden agendas about PuppyLinux or the future of this forum, simply forget I wrote this post. Thanks. _________________ musher0 ~~~~~~~~~~ "You want it darker? We kill the flame." (L. Cohen) |
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nic007
 Joined: 13 Nov 2011 Posts: 3444 Location: Cradle of Humankind |
Should we set up a fund to acquire the services of a pro site hacker/miner? 
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Sylvander
Joined: 15 Dec 2008 Posts: 4439 Location: West Lothian, Scotland, UK |
So far, this morning, I've had 1 email, from Freecycle admin asking for a donation. Previously there were no emails from anyone. Nothing from the Puppy forum. |
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rockedge
Joined: 11 Apr 2012 Posts: 1874 Location: Connecticut, United States |
Yes, extensively . And the results were successful. I've done many transfers of forum, photo gallerys (Gallery 3 mostly) and many many WordPress sites from one server to another or upgrades or some conversions. Usually a SQL export of the database is the start. This forum's software phpBB has a conversion script system to automate the conversion and import of an older database version to a new one. I have spoken to people who have upgraded some forums with well over 2 million posts to the latest version successfully. The entire reason I set up the test forum is to test and practice this export / import. Do not forget that the many attachment files will also need to be moved if there is a server change. That is why I thought use a practice forum then run the actual update on the murga server where the new forum will then become the murga forum using the same domain and url. This way all the users will be doing the same thing but on a newer platform. And making large scale file transfers unnecessary as far as the attachments go. The test forum was to be disposable and only for the test runs of the actual conversion. Plus I had the help from the phpBB dev's and others on their forum who have done such migrations at this scale or much larger. Only problem is no one has access to the server currently hosting the Apache 2.2 and who knows what version or type of MySQL server is running, to do any of this. We can't even attempt to change any configurations of what is running now to improve performance. |
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bigpup
Joined: 11 Oct 2009 Posts: 13981 Location: S.C. USA |
The effort to improve the forum is always a good thing. However, this is still the question! The one big question. What forum is going to be kept up and running, year after year? Whoever is supplying the forum, probably is the only one paying for it. How long are they willing to do that? _________________ The things they do not tell you, are usually the clue to solving the problem. When I was a kid I wanted to be older.... This is not what I expected
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musher0
Joined: 04 Jan 2009 Posts: 15041 Location: Gatineau (Qc), Canada |
bigpup, that "one big question" is the same for any community organization, whether it be this forum, a neighorhood basketball club or even a local AA group meeting. To be funded, the activity has to be beneficial, plus motivated and somewhat competent people have to stick their neck out to run it. We could pass the hat among forum members when they sign out? A number of us could donate a sum to the forum when we die? Convince a rich man to create a foundation for the forum? Hold a PuppyLinux Discussion Forum Drive on national TV?
Anything legal that works is fine. BFN _________________ musher0 ~~~~~~~~~~ "You want it darker? We kill the flame." (L. Cohen) |
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musher0
Joined: 04 Jan 2009 Posts: 15041 Location: Gatineau (Qc), Canada |
Thanks for the report. Did I get this right: your "practice forum" is on the murga server? So at some point John Murga gave you some kind of permission to do this. I don't think using the murga server is wise. IMO, the server should belong to the PuppyForum, with links to the PuppyLinux distro, with some sort of person replacement scheme, to avoid repeating the situation we're in. E.g. the owner, a trusted moderator and the then leader of the Puppy distro should all know all access codes. This would insure independance, plus resilience if something happens. Even if this means a change of URL, it's worth it.
Geez... (Twilight Zone theme song here)... The server of the current forum is on auto-pilot... BFN. _________________ musher0 ~~~~~~~~~~ "You want it darker? We kill the flame." (L. Cohen) |
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musher0
Joined: 04 Jan 2009 Posts: 15041 Location: Gatineau (Qc), Canada |
This is really bugging me. Maybe the first thing to do is try to discover "signs of life" of Mr. Murga. "Putting the ox in front of the cart" -- before jumping to any conclusion. Anybody searched the social media for a "wiggling" John Murga? On Facebook, Linkedin and so on. Does anybody know if he goes by another nickname? I ask because Murga can be a family name of course, but IIRC, it also means "group" in Spanish. Would there be a site generalizing this kind of search? BFN. _________________ musher0 ~~~~~~~~~~ "You want it darker? We kill the flame." (L. Cohen) |
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Galbi
 Joined: 21 Sep 2011 Posts: 1113 Location: Bs.As. - Argentina. |
 Mmmm... kind of. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murga
..."Murga is a form of popular musical theatre performed in Montevideo, Uruguay, Argentina and Badajoz, Spain during the Carnival season. Murga groups also operate in the Buenos Aires Carnival, though to a lesser extent than in Montevideo; the Argentine murga is more centred on dancing and less on vocals than the Uruguayan one. Uruguayan murga has a counterpart in Cadiz, Spain from which it is derived, the chirigota, but over time the two have diverged into distinct forms."... _________________ Remember: "pecunia pecuniam parere non potest" |
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Mike Walsh
 Joined: 28 Jun 2014 Posts: 6397 Location: King's Lynn, UK. |
@ musher0:-
Err.....nope. (Where did you dredge that pearl of wisdom up from?)
The test forum is here:- https://puppylinux.rockedge.org/ .....running on rockedge's own 'commercial grade' server, and using his own domain, too. John Murga had no input on this at all. (Bit hard to see how he could, when he's been incommunicado for so long, hmm?) The whole thing's an experiment, set up by another individual out of the goodness of their heart.....at no cost to you.....primarily to prove that it can be done.....and, as rockedge says, to "practice' doing the forum upgrade before attempting the real thing. Not hard to understand at all. Mike. 
_________________ MY 'PUPPY' PACKAGES  Last edited by Mike Walsh on Thu 18 Jun 2020, 19:42; edited 1 time in total |
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