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How to Make a Bootable Flash Drive using ISObooter
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nooby

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PostPosted: Wed 16 Nov 2011, 05:49    Post subject:  
I planned to use it on that Asus but have not decided yet.
I have to find out which linux that uses grub2 that have
least impact on the SD harddrive. The machine is from 2008
so if it has been used much during all these years with the built
in Xandros then who knows how well the SD is now after such
extensive usage? So just now I have only their grub legacy
the original boot where I added puppy.
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PostPosted: Thu 22 Mar 2012, 01:56    Post subject: Re: bootin on old pc without usb support?
Subject description: quick question		  
rcrsn51 wrote:
pacer106 wrote:
does this method of booting from a usb flash stick work on a pc that does not support booting from a usb device?

No. If the BIOS does not support booting from USB, it doesn't matter which bootloader you pick.



http://www.plop.at/en/bootmanager/download.html
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PostPosted: Thu 22 Mar 2012, 10:58    Post subject:  
Thanks again rcrsn51!

I gave this a try last night and it worked beautifully with Ubuntu 10.10. Very Happy Can't say I was anymore impressed with Ubuntu than the last time I tried it several years ago but its nice to have such a painless way to see how it interacts with Puppy.

Has anyone come up with a grub.conf entry for Ubuntu 11.04?
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PostPosted: Mon 26 Mar 2012, 08:59    Post subject:  
The first post now has instructions for setting up persistent storage when running Ubuntu off a flash drive or Live CD.
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PostPosted: Wed 11 Apr 2012, 16:46    Post subject:  
rcrsn51 wrote:
The first post now has instructions for setting up persistent storage when running Ubuntu off a flash drive or Live CD.


Jay thanks indeed.

May I ask about this part?
Quote:

3. Give the ISO file the generic name "ubuntu.iso".


I guess that explains why some of my entries refuse to be visible.

What is it about grub2 or this version? that require it to be generic names
for to be visible?

Can one change something that allow them to be visible and bootable?
I will try the grub4dos thing tomorrow and maybe the grub2 thing Friday.
Unless that is the get the bike together day Smile Spring will come sooner or later.
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PostPosted: Thu 12 Apr 2012, 12:48    Post subject:  
I wonder about this part.
Quote:
8. Once Ubuntu starts, go to System > Administration > Users and Groups

9. Create a new user. Under Account Type, make it an Administrator. However, you will still have to use "sudo" to perform admin tasks!

10. Go to System > Administration > Login Screen. Click Unlock and set the login screen as desired.

11. Reboot.


Edit. May I guess that for to be able to save things I need to be a real user
and when I boot then I am still a "Live User" and they are not supposed
to save anything?

So buy logging in as Admin then it knows that it shall save changes?

Quote:
10. Go to System > Administration > Login Screen. Click Unlock and set the login screen as desired.


What is that about? Okay I have to test it. Now it remember some things and not other things I am booted in LM12 and it fail to do Swedish kebd

It remember Firefox homepage but not keyboard setkbmap se

As a "live user" LM12 force me to have everything in Swedish instead
of just the keyboard in Swedish.

So maybe being an Admin they would allow me to use our umlaut chars
like åäö

Anyway thanks for all the time and effort you have put into this.
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PostPosted: Thu 14 Jun 2012, 05:10    Post subject:  
hello

thanks for this very helpful tute.

i'm trying to install a debian derivative, AVLinux, to a USB flash drive.

your great instructions gave me a grub.cfg containing the following.

Code:
menuentry "Ubuntu 10.10 Desktop ISO" {
 loopback loop /ubuntu.iso
 linux (loop)/casper/vmlinuz boot=casper iso-scan/filename=/ubuntu.iso noeject noprompt splash --
 initrd (loop)/casper/initrd.lz
}

menuentry "Linux Mint 10 Gnome ISO" {
 loopback loop /linuxmint10.iso
 linux (loop)/casper/vmlinuz file=/cdrom/preseed/mint.seed boot=casper initrd=/casper/initrd.lz iso-scan/filename=/linuxmint10.iso noeject noprompt splash --
 initrd (loop)/casper/initrd.lz
}

menuentry "DBAN ISO" {
 loopback loop /dban.iso
 linux (loop)/DBAN.BZI nuke="dwipe" iso-scan/filename=/dban.iso silent --
}

menuentry "Tinycore ISO" {
 loopback loop /tinycore.iso
 linux (loop)/boot/bzImage --
 initrd (loop)/boot/tinycore.gz
}

menuentry "Memtest 86+" {
 linux16 /memtest86+.bin
}

menuentry "SystemRescueCd" {
 loopback loop /systemrescuecd.iso
 linux (loop)/isolinux/rescuecd isoloop=/systemrescuecd.iso setkmap=us docache dostartx
 initrd (loop)/isolinux/initram.igz
}


I'm not sure if they are "generic" as you describe, so i'm not sure how to create the AVLinux entry. I tried the following, and i got "kernal not found" on boot:

Code:
menuentry "AVLinux" {
 loopback loop /avlinux.iso
 initrd (loop)/live/initrd.img
}


something tells me i need a line that starts with "linux", but not sure how to write it.

any ideas?

many thanks!
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PostPosted: Thu 14 Jun 2012, 08:13    Post subject:  
Not all Linuxes can be booted this way. Open the ISO and look at its bootloader components. Can you find any references to GRUB or casper? If not, it probably boots using the conventional isolinux procedure instead. So this method won't work.
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PostPosted: Sat 09 Feb 2013, 09:10    Post subject:  
The problem that I encountered where that
some entries got invisible so one could neither
correct any error in the code or look into them
for to spot any error they never showed up at all.

So I gave up on it.
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PostPosted: Sat 09 Feb 2013, 09:23    Post subject:  
The new ISObooter method is much simpler than the original GRUB2 method.

But please use it on a USB drive. The hard drive method requires a separate partition, and I don't think that you have one.

1. Plug in your USB drive.

2. Run Gparted from the System menu. Select your USB drive.

3. Right-click on the current partition and reformat it to FAT32.

4. Right-click again and set the Boot flag.

Then follow the steps for ISObooter.
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PostPosted: Sat 09 Feb 2013, 09:48    Post subject:  
Ooops sorry now I see that text.
thanks
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PostPosted: Sat 09 Feb 2013, 10:03    Post subject:  
Read half-way down the post for ISObooter. It is new.
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PostPosted: Sat 09 Feb 2013, 11:05    Post subject:  
Thanks I did as it said and are writing from Peppermint
booted that way. So that was success. I reboot
and test if Porteus will boot too.

Edit writing from Porteus so that is good

Now I will test other isos
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PostPosted: Sat 09 Feb 2013, 11:14    Post subject:  
Excellent. If you get the "dis-contiguous" problem, just reformat the drive and start again.

Or get a second drive, set it up with ISObooter and copy all the ISOs from the first drive to the second.
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PostPosted: Sat 09 Feb 2013, 13:21    Post subject:  
The Error 60 discontig thing seems to happen to me
each time I transfer a new iso to it. So that is a disappointment Smile

I am trying to check out crunchbang now but have to start all over
with formatting and moving the files.
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