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#1 Post by Lobster »

... as existing bloatware ms government is flailing ... could the time for Open Source Government be arriving as the Jurassic dinosaurs die off? :D

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open-source_governance
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#2 Post by 8Geee »

Why not hand it over to Google, Amazon, Apple, and Microsoft, letting them run the gov't. Oh wait, they already have the biggest influence... I'm sure the OS will follow shortly.

Just think... the gov't as end-user. But I'm a little early for All Hallow's Eve.
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#3 Post by s243a »

8Geee wrote: I'm sure the OS will follow shortly.
Something like this?

Protecting democratic elections through secure, verifiable voting
May 6, 2019 | Tom Burt - Corporate Vice President, Customer Security & Trust - https://blogs.microsoft.com/on-the-issu ... le-voting/
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#4 Post by 8Geee »

Witth tongue firmly in cheek, what about the republican elections? I'm sure the democratic elections will be just fine.

"I Voted", but have no proof I did, nor how I voted. This is the real problem with voting. The revolution needed is the voter copy that can be compared against database copy.
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8Geee wrote:Witth tongue firmly in cheek, what about the republican elections? I'm sure the democratic elections will be just fine.

"I Voted", but have no proof I did, nor how I voted. This is the real problem with voting. The revolution needed is the voter copy that can be compared against database copy.
There should be a paper trail, but notice the contridiction in the Microsoft blog article:
ElectionGuard democratizes the ability to verify election results by enabling direct public confirmation of the accuracy of those results. Voters are able to verify the correct recording of their votes, and anyone – including voters themselves – can verify that all of the recorded votes are correctly counted. As with current election systems, voters will remain unable to disclose their recorded votes to protect their privacy.
I think our votes still matters otherwise there wouldn't be so many efforts to suppress the vote and one way to suppress the vote is to tell people that their vote doesn't matter. However, if you want a really cynical rabbit hole to go down then here are some breadcrumbs:
94:18 political system and turning it into
94:19 nothing but a puppet reality TV theater
94:23 show while they do whatever the hell
94:25 they want to in the background I'm not
https://youtu.be/oW0KrReDiNI?t=5658
59:45 that finding it was our discovery of
59:48 that that led us to the question of well
59:50 who's actually in charge of NSA policy
59:52 and it turns out it was the director so
59:55 then our next question was well who
59:57 holds the director accountable I mean
59:59 the director surely directed the UNICEF
60:01 accountable to someone and that was
60:03 where also through James Bamford in
60:06 basic investigative journalism we
60:09 discovered that there wasn't mechanism
60:12 the mechanism is called the judicial
60:14 review board and that sounds like oh it
60:16 must be some touches or you know the
60:19 like the lawyers legal infrastructure
60:24 must do something you too like over the
60:26 seeing the spies well we looked into
60:28 there and no it's got nothing to do with
60:30 judges it's got nothing to do with
60:31 courts I don't even know why the word
60:34 judicial is really in there because it
60:36 turns out that the judicial review board
60:39 is one as the head of each of the
60:44 military services the Joint Chiefs of
60:46 Staff plus the director of the CIA plus
60:49 the Department of State I n plus the
60:52 Pentagon so ultimately then at the time
60:58 it was Secretary Clinton and a bunch of
61:03 military guys were who would be relied
61:07 upon to hold the NSA in check or hold
61:12 the NSA to account and surprise surprise
61:16 it's never happened they never have been
61:18 held to account
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#6 Post by 8Geee »

I did notice that contradiction, which still requires a voter's "infallable memory". PhotoTAN or QR code holds a possibility as receipt. Scan it and enter password or 2nd authentication token. BTW M$ makes a bar-code type IIRC...
ahh, had to look it up... here.
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8Geee wrote:Why not hand it over to Google, Amazon, Apple, and Microsoft, letting them run the gov't.
Tee hee. :lol:

That is the current lobby [no relation] based system. Paid interest groupings. This creates government by corruptible influenced stooges or state monopoly by ideology or Monopolies.

meanwhile ...
https://opensource.com/resources/open-government
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8Geee wrote:Witth tongue firmly in cheek, what about the republican elections? I'm sure the democratic elections will be just fine.

"I Voted", but have no proof I did, nor how I voted. This is the real problem with voting. The revolution needed is the voter copy that can be compared against database copy.
A few points:
Anything that proves or disproves that you voted could be used by the evil bad guys as part of preventing you from voting. Thus not having this is not a problem it is a desired feature.

Anything that allows you to demonstrate to others how you voted could be used by the evil bad guys to verify that you voted the way they told you to. Thus not allowing this this is also a feature and not a problem.

Anything that requires that a person be compared against a database before they are allowed to vote allows the evil bad guys who hacked the database or perhaps control it directly to take away your power to vote. Thus not having this is a feature.

Anything that prevents the general public from being able to watch each step in the process allows the evil bad guys to fake the results. Thus anything happening inside a mysterious black box should not be allowed.

Open source software is not quite good enough. If the evil bad guys can control the processor hardware used or the communications paths, the software may not be in control of the result.

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