Someone should edit /usr/bin/dotpup

For discussions about programming, programming questions/advice, and projects that don't really have anything to do with Puppy.
Post Reply
Message
Author
User avatar
mikeslr
Posts: 3890
Joined: Mon 16 Jun 2008, 21:20
Location: 500 seconds from Sol

Someone should edit /usr/bin/dotpup

#1 Post by mikeslr »

/usr/sbin/dotpup is the script initiated via Menu>Setup>Universal Installer.

Ignoring that it can't be used with UEFI computers, it works as it has for many years. It's only problem is Humans who don't speak 'Puppy' and consequently read 'full' to mean 'everything' and 'frugal' to mean 'cut-down'.

The result is that every week a new bunch of mislead newbies have to be walked through straightening out their systems.

I don't think there's anything complicated about changing 'frugal' to read 'standard'* and 'full' to read 'legacy'. But programming isn't my 'strong suit' or I'd do it myself. [Standard*: If you can think of a better term, go for it.].

There isn't anything we can do about the 5,000 or so old ISOs 'in the wild'. But most newbies opt for a recent Puppy. There's not a great deal of work involved in preparing ISOs revised to have corrected dotpups and substituting them in the current deployment channels,

Can anyone think of a good reason why time and again we continue to publish ISOs containing misleading information?

dancytron
Posts: 1519
Joined: Wed 18 Jul 2012, 19:20

#2 Post by dancytron »

Agreed.

We need to get the attention of someone with Woof access to make the change there so it at least cascades to new versions.

User avatar
tallboy
Posts: 1760
Joined: Tue 21 Sep 2010, 21:56
Location: Drøbak, Norway

#3 Post by tallboy »

Can anyone think of a good reason why time and again we continue to publish ISOs containing misleading information?
As a matter of principle, I don't like that a script which is the same in all Puppys, suddenly change the code, but keep the name. I would prefer an extra popup dialog window, or some kind of explanations to the expressions. After all, they are used all over, also in thousands of posts in the forum, and should remain consistent.
There is also a relative link named dotpup1, used by the Puppy Installer in the Setup menu, which open only the installer part of the dotpup window, excluding the Install Applications part.
True freedom is a live Puppy on a multisession CD/DVD.

s243a
Posts: 2580
Joined: Tue 02 Sep 2014, 04:48
Contact:

#4 Post by s243a »

What about calling it:
"full (legacy)"
?
Find me on [url=https://www.minds.com/ns_tidder]minds[/url] and on [url=https://www.pearltrees.com/s243a/puppy-linux/id12399810]pearltrees[/url].

User avatar
bigpup
Posts: 13886
Joined: Sun 11 Oct 2009, 18:15
Location: S.C. USA

#5 Post by bigpup »

All you have to do to post to Woof-CE is go there.
https://github.com/puppylinux-woof-CE/woof-CE
Create an account so you can log in.
https://github.com/join?source=prompt-c ... %2Fwoof-CE
Suggest you use your Puppy forum name, so people will probably already know who you are.

If you want to bring up a problem, make a suggestion, etc....
On the Woof-CE main page
Log in or it will ask when you try to post something.
Click on issues
Click on new issue
https://github.com/puppylinux-woof-CE/woof-CE/issues
The things they do not tell you, are usually the clue to solving the problem.
When I was a kid I wanted to be older.... This is not what I expected :shock:
YaPI(any iso installer)

Post Reply