Puppy CD wont boot in Toshiba laptop

[rjbrewer]

Make a "wakepup 2" floppy on another comp. USE NEW FLOPPY.

[rjbrewer]

Make a "wakepup 2" floppy on another comp. USE NEW FLOPPY.

[Ron G]

It would be nice if I had the floppy drive for the thing, but unfortunately I do not. I did try the -r blank and burned on my girlfriends pc because I could slow the burn down, but even though it went through all the girations and sounds like the factory pressed CDs, it still would not read it. I believe it is a lost cause sadly. It would have made some kiddo a good little first pc.

Ron

[Ron G]

I've just installed Puppy 4.1.2 on my old Tecra 730xcdt. It has 80 meg ram, a Pentium 1 processor (150MHz) a 2 gig hard drive, which I partitioned to give 300 meg swap space.

The BIOS doesn't provide the facility to boot from CD, so I use a Smart Boot Manager floppy to facilitate this.

A couple of things I found:

1. When I burn the live CD using a hp / compaq nc6320 it is not recognised by my Tecra, but when I burn it with my Toshiba Qosmio the CD is recognised by my Tecra.

2. When I boot the Tecra using the live CD I have to use the boot parameters:

puppy pnpbios=off acpi=off

otherwise it hangs and does not complete. I have added these boot options to the grub config file menu.lst, as it still won't boot the HD install without them.

Hope this helps.

Mine does provide for CD rom boot in the bios, but I can't remember if it has the place to turn off the acpi. If it does I may give it one more try with the -r disk I burned because it sure acted as if it wanted to boot with it. I can't get over the Ubuntu and Win XP disk booting to the install windows, but nothing else will. Puzzling to say the least. What I really need is a copy of the old Win 98. That would allow me to reinstall it, the I believe the other disk would boot in to it, and I could wipe it out through the pup install. Or at least I think I could.

[Ron G]

Well to update the progress (or lack of it), I have tried everything that was so kindly suggested here, and so far nothing has worked. This thing will read any factory daisk I have, up to and including the disk from my first old pc which had win 95 on it. None will let me boot it up, but the one from my old Packard Bell will take me to A:>
I cant do much other than read the dir for that disk, and if I am careful, I can slip out the packard bell disk, and slip in another old disk I have from an old CTX pc and it will read the dir from it as well. I tried slipping the old disk out, in hopes it would then let me read the puppy, or one of the other many disks I have burned, but it won't. It goes back to cannot read A:>.
I have several feelers out for an old 95, or 98 install disk, in hopes that once I get some sort of operating system on it, I may be able to manipulate it to read the burned disk. I read somewhere that there is some sort of file, or maybe a small program that can induce the old optical drive to read the newer -r/w disk. I just wanted to let all who posted with their ideas and help, that I am still trying to get the old dog up and running.

Thanks to all.

[WB7ODYFred]

Always burn at x8 or x4 or X2 or X1 speed, not the MAX speed of the optical CDROM disk. Faster will burn, but might have read errors with an older slow optical disk. ie it reads good on the fast main machine and the MD5SUM or "verify" works on the main machine optical CD RW Drive, but errors out on the Toshiba older optical CDROM. reader driver.

2nd after burning a CDROM at a slow speed, do the disk verify check that is a part of the burning routine to make sure no errors creeped in.

3rd do a MD5SUM on the whole CDROM disk.

4th maybe substitute a newer CDROM drive onto the internal cable for that laptop or try using an external USB CDROM drive through a USB adapter,
Maybe the toshiba machine is good, but the CDROM drive is faulty and can't read CD disks.


5th Try downloading and installing puppylinux into a 1 GIG or 512 Gig USB Flash drive on the main machine, Then figure out how to boot the USB drive on the older Toshibe with eitther a floppy disk or a CDROM boot disk.


7th Try Damn Small Linux DSL Linux see www.distrowatch.com


I hope these ideas are helpful, Please someone that know more about booting, give or point to instructions on how to boot from USB when the old BIOS in the machine is not capable of booting from USB, Say the BIOS only allows floppy or Hard Disk boot. or CDROM boot, but the CDROM dirve is broken.

8th Maybe the BIOS in the Toshiba is not set to boot from CDROM before booting from the Hard Drive


Ron G sounds like the 64MB hardware laptop most likely is good, just a small glitch to overcome booting from CDROM. Check above notes to select a path to boot with out the CDROM dirve.

9th maybe a NETBOOT from the ethernet cable, Anyone else with instructoins from booting over the ethernet.? No floppy, No Hard Disk, No CDROM. What environment would one have to setup to support booting over the ethernet. A TFTP server? a DHCP server? etcetera

[WB7ODYFred]

Google Search
http://www.google.com/search?q=freedos& ... =firefox-a

Provides these interesting links.
http://www.freedos.org/
http://www.fdos.org/bootdisks/ bootable msdos image
http://www.fdos.org/bootdisks/btdskfaq.txt

http://sourceforge.net/projects/freedos/
http://www.fdos.org/


http://www.bootdisk.com/bootdisk.htm

Ron G, maybe this is away to boot that older Toshiba Laptop.


http://www.freeveda.org/linux/puppy/index.htm
http://www.freeveda.org/linux/puppy/PupWin98.htm



One of these above sites should get that Toshiba Laptop booted.

[WB7ODYFred]

The Google Search
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&clie ... rt=10&sa=N

http://forums.scotsnewsletter.com/index ... opic=14613
http://secretstairs.com/hacking/3490ct/ ... ation.html

http://www.netbootdisk.com/


http://forum.linuxmce.org/index.php?topic=6570.0

Triggered by a question on #debian-boot and my own curiosity, I decided to try
and netboot d-i for my Toshiba Satellite A40 laptop using PXE booting.
http://www.mail-archive.com/debian-boot ... 51927.html


For Mac Notebooks
http://www.zdnetasia.com/downloads/mac/ ... 99s,00.htm

Hope this gives you some ideas

[WB7ODYFred]

Netboot allows to remote boot a computer over an IP network without access to a hard disk or a diskette. It is therefore ideally suited for diskless or thin clients using an x86 processor.

Netboot is open source software licensed by the GNU GPL, and contains all necessary tools including a PXE compliant bootrom. Operating systems supported on the diskless client are Linux, FreeBSD and many DOS variants.

Netboot sourceforge page
http://netboot.sourceforge.net/english/index.shtml

Download Page
http://netboot.sourceforge.net/english/download.html

Introduction Page
http://netboot.sourceforge.net/english/ ... ction.html

Net Boot Howto page from 2003
http://netboot.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/ ... ot%20HOWTO

Booting Puppylinux Forum
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... fa2ccc417e

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 40&t=16439

Here's the web page for alpha releases of PupServer & LanPuppy:
http://www.eejagger.com/LanPuppy/

Howto NetBoot Puppy
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... fa2ccc417e

Linux Questions booting from a USB
http://www.linuxquestions.org/bookmarks/tags/puppylinux\


http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 6&start=60

Long list of security tools, search for netboot to find related links.
http://www.freefire.org/tools/index.en.php


Posting now before I lose something.
WB7ODYFred

[WB7ODYFred]

Unetbootin has a Puppylinux 4.00 image
http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/
http://www.linuxtoday.com/it_management ... 003035OSRL


Universal Netboot disk.
http://www.netbootdisk.com/

Using Klikstart
If you have to perform a lot of Linux installs, there's a fast and easy way to do so quickly and efficiently without having to babysit the installation process each time. By making use of Kickstart, you can save time and effort by setting up a Kickstart server and spend your time getting more useful work done.
August 28, 2008

http://www.linux-mag.com/tag/netboot/
http://www.linux-mag.com/id/6747


Chapter 12 Howto Documentation
http://www.educ.umu.se/~bjorn/linux/how ... TO-12.html
http://linuxdocs.org/HOWTOs/Diskless-HOWTO-12.html
http://linuxdocs.org/HOWTOs/Diskless-HOWTO.html#toc12



http://wirelessafrica.meraka.org.za/wik ... netbooting


http://nixbit.com/cat//utilities/netboot/
http://ihdtv.wiki.sourceforge.net/linux-netboot

Ubuntu Help NetBoot Documentation includes rom-o-matic to make EPROM image for every different kind of ethernet chip.
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/Netboot

Etherboot note

It is now possible to just to create and download an etherboot floppy image from http://www.rom-o-matic.net/ customized for your card.

Linux Boot Floppy Disk images
http://www.linux-boot.net/Boot/FD/



What is Billix?
Billix is a USB-key-based or CDROM-based mini Linux distribution. You can either boot it off a USB key or CD. It will fit on a 256MB USB key - which can be found for as little as $10 nowadays (my current favorite vendor for USB keys is Surplus Computers - http://www.surpluscomputers.com).

What can Billix do for me?
Billix will let you boot Damn Small Linux (either natively or from within a Windows or Linux session via QEMU). You can boot Puppy Linux as well, or you can activate any of the Linux distro installers. Currently included installers are Ubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper), Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy), Debian Sarge, Centos 4.4, and Fedora Core 6. All the installers are of the "netinstall" type, meaning they boot a mini-OS and require a functional internet connection to grab and install the rest of the OS. Also included with Billix is the "memtest" memory checking program, and a Windows "password eliminator" (a mini OS that will mount and edit the registry on Windows boxes to null out any of the passwords on the box).


How do I use Billix?
Simple. Boot your key or CD. To run Damn Small Linux, simply hit enter. Otherwise; here are the boot cheatcodes:
dsl Run Damn Small Linux (Default)
dapper Install Ubuntu Dapper (Netboot)
dapperserver Install Ubuntu Dapper (Server)
dapperexpert Install Ubuntu Dapper (Expert)
edgy Install Ubuntu Edgy (Netboot)
edgyserver Install Ubuntu Edgy (Server)
edgyexpert Install Ubuntu Edgy (Expert)
sarge Install Debian Sarge (Netboot)
centos4 Install Centos 4.4 (Netboot)
fedora Install Fedora Core 6 (Netboot)
puppy Run Puppy Linux from Key
ntpwd Windows NT/2K/XP Pwd Crack
memtest memtest86+

To call up these cheatcodes from within the boot screen, hit F2.

Why is there a QEMU directory on the key?
That's for Damn Small Linux. I used their "embedded" distro - notice the dsl-linux.sh and dsl-windows.bat scripts? If you run either of those from within their respective OSes then a QEMU window will open and Damn Small Linux will start in that. It's great for when you are at a PC where your regular toolset isn't available, and you can't reboot or otherwise mess with that PC (cybercafe, library, etc).

NOTES and ISSUES:
Right now most SATA controllers aren't supported by Damn Small Linux. When DSL-N gets more mature I'll include that rather than the regular DSL.
The Centos and Fedora netinstalls pull from the kernel.org mirrors.


https://sourceforge.net/project/shownot ... _id=179428


Enough for this post, Anybody want to try Billix with Puppy Linux?

[WB7ODYFred]

Saturday, November 08, 2008
Using UNetbootin To Get Puppy On A Stick
by Steve Lawson

http://reddevil62-techhead.blogspot.com ... stick.html

UnetBootin with links by Wouter Veugelen
http://www.voipsec.eu/?p=262

Older article Netbooting with PuppyLinux 2.12
http://nixbit.com/cat//utilities/netboot/

Infoworld article
Test Center review: Specialty Linuxes to the rescue
Six sweet distributions that can boot from a pen drive, run in a sliver of RAM, rejuvenate an old system, or recover data from a dead PC
by Rick Grahen
http://www.infoworld.com/article/08/11/ ... ource=fssr

Linux Today November 2008 article on unetbootin Long Detailed Article
http://www.linuxtoday.com/it_management ... 003035OSRL

PuppyLinux Forum Jan 11, 2009 Puppy 4.1.2_barebones_netboot.ios
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=37571

Mirror of Unetbootin information
http://hi.baidu.com/dgnewsky/blog/item/ ... f5311.html

[WB7ODYFred]

ioctl

Installing Debian on a machine via USBstick when you've nothing but an XP workstation

ioctl.org : unix bits and pieces : debian install
Chicken and egg: running SYSLINUX on Windows XP on a USB memory stick

This is just a brief summary (because I couldn't find one anywhere) of how I got Debian Linux onto a "media PC"-style machine, using only (!) Windows XP.

The "media PC" was a friend's (let's call this friend "James", which stands for "Just a moment's easy solution", and refers to his unfortunate history of having five-minute tasks in the hobbyist computing field rapidly turn into nightmare epics - not through his own fault, either, but generally because five minute tasks take a lot longer when you try to follow a route that's repeatable and doesn't involve "here's one I did earlier") mini-ITX low-power job. It's a natty little device, but has no CD drive, and no floppy drive. It can, however, boot from a USB flash stick quite happily (USB 1.1 or USB 2.0, it claims). So my suggestion when asked was to do a USB boot and network install of Debian.

[Ron G]

Well after much time has passed, I thought I would update this thread. I finally got puppy installed on the old girl, and it actually works ( well for the most part) I ordered and received a copy of "puppy opera", a little bit older version, and it still would no boot. So............. I got a disk from a guy online named Eddie, and it allowed me to format the hard drive the way I wanted, with a swap partition, and it still would not go. So I burned a copy of Deli linux on to a -r cd, and it booted, and installed, how ever I didn't care for it, and it was way slow.
After I had gotten Deli to install, and the hard drive was the way I wanted it with Linux partitions, I had another go at installing Puppy. This time it worked, and it works surprisingly well. The only thing I haven't had the time to mess with as of yet, is getting it set up for the internet. I have a wireless card for it, if it will work, and if not I have an ethernet card to try. At any rate, I just wanted to update this thread and let all the nice folks that posted to it know, I finally got puppy on it, and working.

Ron

[racepres]

Very cool.. If you have problems w/ networking, drop a note. An old toshiba 500cdt here can connect w/ many of the older pcmcia devices [wifi and ethernet] around here. I use non-cardbus types and set the bios accordingly.. Goes real well.. RP

[Libretto100ct]

I'm sorry I missed this thread. But just in case someone references it later.....

Buy a $2 Desktop to Laptop IDE adapter off eBay.

Disconnect your hard drive in your desktop and connect the adapter.

Put the Puppy CD in your Desktop.

Boot up.

Follow the prompts and load Puppy.

Use Gparted off the Puppy CD to set up your partitions. You want an Ext 2 bootable partition and a Swap partition that is 2.5 x your actual RAM. If you have a modern computer with a lot of RAM you really don't need a Swap partition.

Use the Puppy Universal Installer and at the end choose to install Grub to the MBR.

Shut down your computer.

Take the drive out of the Desktop and put it in the Laptop.

When your boot up, follow the prompts to set up your hardware as normal.

You're done.

To type the directions takes longer than the actual process. Usually it takes 5-10 minutes max from beginning to end. I do it on a regular basis because it's my hobby,

I have MANY old Toshibas. Most have no CD and/or do not boot from CD. ALL work with Puppy 4 series. 2 & 3 don't always recognize some of the oddball video displays.

If you use the cheap adapter to install, it saves much effort and frustration and/or sifting through geek speak.

[Ron G]

Very cool.. If you have problems w/ networking, drop a note. An old toshiba 500cdt here can connect w/ many of the older pcmcia devices [wifi and ethernet] around here. I use non-cardbus types and set the bios accordingly.. Goes real well.. RP

I will do that when I get around to fiddling with it. Time , as always seems to be the biggest problem, but I'd like to get it working well enough to donate to some kiddo that doesn't have a pc, and has the interest to learn about them.

Thanks,

Ron