Classic Pup 2.14X -- Updated 2 series

[ttuuxxx]

clarf:
Quick report as I need to go out.
Your installer patch worked perfectly. It loaded up my ethernet module, booted from grub screen in 26 secs (was 51 secs before) and the zdrve.sfs file is no more.
As ever thanks for your excellent work.

don922:
I agree it's annoying when a post takes up more than a screen's width but on this occasion the "culprit" was a guy who IMO is always polite, very helpful and just could never be described as rude or a jerk.

If you can't be a little more tolerant and not use such rude words about folk then perhaps you should leave this thread alone.

Dave

I must say I agree with Dave 100%, This thread is a mutual coalition of friends that together have achieved greatness for older pc users alike, basically we've always had a friendly thread and that will be the way it stands!. Any negative issues should be addressed with respect first and foremost., So we may continue moving forward.
ttuuxxx

[Firefox]

I downloaded and put the sfs filesout of the iso into a file and configured grub to boot from it. i was ok untill loading modules when it stopped for a long time then continued but when it came to busybox it stopped altogether on displaying Init. multicall or multiuser.How can I use that clarf fix if I cant install it? assumingit solves the busybox problem.

[Colonel Panic]

A quick update; I downloaded Gnome-PPP and the new wvdial and tried to get the former working in RC3, but so far no luck. (If it's any consolation, I can't get Gnome-PPP to work in AntiX either, or KPPP in any distro I've tried it in).

It's not a big deal since Gkdial works fine in 2.14 Retro, as does wvdial on its own. And btw, RC3 works great now I've degunked my machine. Should have done it months ago (last year in fact).

[ttuuxxx]

I downloaded and put the sfs filesout of the iso into a file and configured grub to boot from it. i was ok untill loading modules when it stopped for a long time then continued but when it came to busybox it stopped altogether on displaying Init. multicall or multiuser.How can I use that clarf fix if I cant install it? assumingit solves the busybox problem.

Its been sometime since I did a small update, I think these issues call for one, I'll put together a RC4.1 release shortly
ttuuxxx

[Minnesota]

More on Printing with RC-4

Started backwards, 214-15-OK, RC-1-OK, RC-2-OK, RC-3-OK

RC-4 -

Two printers.

Anyone else give this a try?

[Minnesota]

Sorry double post.. something hung....

Two printers, two computers.

Anyone else give this a try?

[Firefox]

Thanks ttuuxxx that would be great.
There is one other thing though I have a 3g mobile connected via USB cable to my computer and use it on windows XP. I tried to use the drivers you offered on my Bruno download pup ver 431 but no luck even after renaming the libss.2 to libss.1 & libcrypto for it to run - which it didnt - wouldn`t recognise the USB port. Is it possible in ver 4.1 to have your files recognise my modem? The mobile is from 3 store and i believe it uses the huawei? driver the model is called an S2 and features scype and an hspd modem inside at 115kb/sec.
Thanks again

[clarf]

I downloaded and put the sfs filesout of the iso into a file and configured grub to boot from it. i was ok untill loading modules when it stopped for a long time then continued but when it came to busybox it stopped altogether on displaying Init. multicall or multiuser.How can I use that clarf fix if I cant install it? assumingit solves the busybox problem.

Its been sometime since I did a small update, I think these issues call for one, I'll put together a RC4.1 release shortly
ttuuxxx

Hi ttuuxxx, I think we should address a solution for the generalized print problems, before launch the next release. In this way we could have a good feedback about cups, Do you know what´s is wrong with cups?

I´ll do a deep test tonight... Meanwhile, I found that RC4 has the same bugs/problems with Samba and Pnethood that RC3 had, Samba totally freezes my system because the /etc/mtab symlink to /proc/mounts, that new mount and umount scripts creates. I copied the old mount/umount scripts from 214X16 then deleted that symlink and my samba problems disappeared (that symlink must be delete to make the older mount and unmount work).

That symlink also causes a minor warning at boot, if none has noticed it before:

Code: Select all

 Making the filesystem usable : cat: proc/mounts input file is output file

Any comment is welcome,

clarf

[ttuuxxx]

I'm glad you've changed that gross looking yellow background for petget and a few other things..but the black text on blue background is a bt difficult to read. Any chance of a clearer combination? White on blue??

Still feel the menus are cluttered with all those duplicate SetUps which are available in the lovely Control Panel. For example I can set up Alsa Sound by Menu>SetUp>Alsa sound wizard, or Menu>SetUp>Wizard wizard> or Control panel. Sorry but they'll be the first thing I get rid of in 214 Final.

Thanks as ever.
Dave

Hi Dave I've changed the splash dialog on petget and background setter from a yaf display to gxmessage display which is way clearer to read the black fonts on blue background, I did try white but it just didn't look right.

As for menu clutter, some think its clutter and some find it useful, I personally like the the menu over the control panel, Some users like the Control panel over the menu, really its about choice, it doesn't really add any bloat to 2.14X for a couple lines of code, So I really don't see the need to remove them from the menu.
ttuuxxx

[ttuuxxx]

Hi ttuuxxx, I think we should address a solution for the generalized print problems, before launch the next release. In this way we could have a good feedback about cups, Do you know what´s is wrong with cups?

clarf

Yes i do Its the new updated Ghostscript, Its because this version of cups wasn't compiled against the newer Ghostscript.
libgs.so.8.54
libgs.so.8.15
really I need to delete one of them, They are 4MB uncompressed each, If I revert back to the older one the viewing GS images is dead, and if I stick to the newer one then Cups is dead, I think the only logical thing to do is recompile cups with the newer version of Ghostscript.
BUTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT when that happens then it opens up the cups bag of worms that usually causes a lot of issues. But hey I'll give it a shot, I like the newer pdf image view and think its worth a shot, I can always revert back in the worst case, but we will need a lot of printer test, as long as its as good as it was, I'll be happy, .
ttuuxxx

[davesurrey]

ttuuxxx
1. Thanks for changing the petget background.

2. Okay I agree it's a personal preference about the wizard and control panel.
I can always delete the ones I dont want later.

3. If you change Cups then I'll give it a good test but may be away all weekend and unable to test.

Cheers
Dave

[ttuuxxx]

Thanks ttuuxxx that would be great.
There is one other thing though I have a 3g mobile connected via USB cable to my computer and use it on windows XP. I tried to use the drivers you offered on my Bruno download pup ver 431 but no luck even after renaming the libss.2 to libss.1 & libcrypto for it to run - which it didnt - wouldn`t recognise the USB port. Is it possible in ver 4.1 to have your files recognise my modem? The mobile is from 3 store and i believe it uses the huawei? driver the model is called an S2 and features scype and an hspd modem inside at 115kb/sec.
Thanks again

Hi I need your make,model, and revision of your modem, maybe even the sources if you have a link, if not I'll look. Plus always have the modem plugged in before booting up, I've noticed before on some usb things like my usr2lan adapter only gets detected if it was plugged in before power/booting is turned on.

ttuuxxx

[MinHundHettePerro]

On Menu clutter/unclutter

There might be some duplicate routes to take from the menu to get to a certain task (in 214x, as well as in other puppies). Just have in mind that removing one route might get me going "Aaaarrrggghhhh!" while, removing another route might cause someone else to go "AAAAAAAAARRRGGGGGGHHH!".
I did try the SDust/44CE derivative out, where the menu was totally re-arranged and many menu items had been moved to a "puppy control centre", heck, I spent 10-15 minutes to even find something that used to be extremely simple to perform (of course the mere CLI approach was obstructed by this derivative by also moving/re-naming/symlinking standard puppy files). Sorry, ttuuxxx, I haven't had a more thorough look on your 214X control centre than the odd glance, just to check it out (guess I'm just not the control centre kind of bloke).

On printing/Evince
Should you not find a way to make the 214X gs versions that the existing CUPS and gsview versions are depending on to co-exist, with some intricate symlinking, or such, the features of Evince's .pdf's displaying are better than those of epdfview's, and printing is, of course, vital. Whatever you decide, testing is needed before the final.

Cheers /
MHHP

[ttuuxxx]

ttuuxxx

2. Okay I agree it's a personal preference about the wizard and control panel.
I can always delete the ones I dont want later.

Cheers
Dave

hi dave install this the fresh your menus and look at the setup directory,
ttuuxxx

[davesurrey]

Hey ttuuxxx, mucho better IMO. That's kind of you.

Now I can go Grrrrrrreeeeeeaaaaattttttt.

[ttuuxxx]

Glad you like it, can everybody else live with? If so I'll add the change to the next release.
ttuuxxx

[Firefox]

Hi ttuuxxx I did some searching for my mobile but I dont know what I`m looking for or how to get it - to much advertising the brands and not enough technical details. I found It`s called "Three Skypephone S2" and
the company 3 UK is part of the HWL group of companies and uses T-Mobile.
It has an HSPDA modem and uses 3.6 drivers. Thats all I know basicaly hope its enough.
Thanks again.

[jemimah]

Its the new updated Ghostscript, Its because this version of cups wasn't compiled against the newer Ghostscript.
libgs.so.8.54
libgs.so.8.15
really I need to delete one of them, They are 4MB uncompressed each, If I revert back to the older one the viewing GS images is dead, and if I stick to the newer one then Cups is dead, I think the only logical thing to do is recompile cups with the newer version of Ghostscript.
BUTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT when that happens then it opens up the cups bag of worms that usually causes a lot of issues. But hey I'll give it a shot, I like the newer pdf image view and think its worth a shot, I can always revert back in the worst case, but we will need a lot of printer test, as long as its as good as it was, I'll be happy, .
ttuuxxx

There's a possible 3rd option. Replace the broken cups filter with a shell script that uses libpoppler instead. I had the do this to make Chrome print correctly in Puppeee. YMMV since you probably have a different cups version and and a larger scale problem.
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+sour ... bug/382379

[James C]

The new menu works for me........ Much easier to find the appropriate wizard.

[ttuuxxx]

Hi ttuuxxx I did some searching for my mobile but I dont know what I`m looking for or how to get it - to much advertising the brands and not enough technical details. I found It`s called "Three Skypephone S2" and
the company 3 UK is part of the HWL group of companies and uses T-Mobile.
It has an HSPDA modem and uses 3.6 drivers. Thats all I know basicaly hope its enough.
Thanks again.

can you bootup with your modem plugged in and type lsusb
and copy and paste the results

also you might have to unplug and plug it back it while running, I compiled this modem switch application you also might try. I included the latest defs and setup,
ok to start with read http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-935815.html
then http://www.draisberghof.de/usb_modeswit ... 63c3d84e57

and finally
http://blog.peterrobins.co.uk/2009/12/u ... linux.html

complete modem switch below