lack of a professional looking web site

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lack of a professional looking web site

#1 Post by linuxgamer »

The features of Puppy sound tempting, but I was a bit put off by the lack of a professional looking web site.

I am not trying to bash anyone here. I am just saying that my first initial response to seeing the official Puppy web site was not good.

However, I still think I am going to download and try Puppy.
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#2 Post by linuxgamer »

I now realize that I must have been looking at the old site?

Old
http://www.goosee.com/puppy/

New?
http://www.puppylinux.org
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#3 Post by rarsa »

Barry focuses most of his attention at improving Puppy. It leaves him little time to maintain his website.

On the good side. His website has more relevant information than many other distribution sites that look better.

I don't see Barry's website as a 'marketing' website but as a place for him to share his ideas, discoveries and developments.
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#4 Post by dominic »

linuxgamer wrote:I now realize that I must have been looking at the old site?

Old
http://www.goosee.com/puppy/

New?
http://www.puppylinux.org
yeah, the .org one is the community website i'd say.

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#5 Post by Lobster »

:) Puppy does on occasion undersell itself.
Those of us who use it find it priceless - in more ways than seven . . .

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#6 Post by Mathiasdm »

Damnit :-? The forum ate my previous post!
I hope it tasted well!

Anyways... I too was put off by the looks of the site. A redesign, imho, would be a very good idea.
Perhaps a webmaster can be appointed (or a designing competition could be held).

But please, let the competitors use at least css!

I'll kill anyone who uses Flash :twisted:
Hmm... That's a bit harsh.
I'll just... Torture them!
Yes, that's it.
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#7 Post by Ted Dog »

I was not turned off by the website, I feel the developer that goes to eyecandy is a windows VB style programmer. The functionally and hyperlinks reminded me of a simpler time when all you need was vi and a half day to learn all there was to HTML. I learned it from a linux big book from 1998 it was only a chapter, with examples and the whole distro only took a single CD, and got three with the 40lb book OVERPRICED.
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lack?

#8 Post by raffy »

It's not a lack ... it's Puppy's original home! :D It's not lacking in invention, for sure.
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#9 Post by Pizzasgood »

Sometimes a site like the old goosee site (back with 0.9.8-ish) seems more real than fancy ones. Like the difference between walking through a slightly run-down neighborhood compared to a spick and span subdivision with identical cookie-cutter homes and people who try to kick you out if you aren't sub-par like the rest of them. I got to the site and thought: "Woah! Cheesey tables and long pages crammed with stuff! This distro is actually being developed!" It also implied to me that the development was something kept open for people to see and even contribute to, not tucked away in a corner to keep it looking "professional."

Unfortunately, many people don't think that way, and prefer the MS method of sites that make it hard to find anything useful, are loaded with ActiveX garbage, and definately don't offer access to the developer's forum :roll:
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#10 Post by Flash »

I agree with Ted Dog. Eyecandy (especially Flash, Mathiasdm :) ) is a waste of time. Look at Google's webpage.

My complaint is that there are so many Puppy websites it's hard to say which is the main one.
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#11 Post by dominic »

Yeah, eye-candy is not needed. A good looking site can be well done using just pure html and some clever placement of images.

Not one to toot my own horn, but see my site for example ( http://www.stuffs.uk.tt ) All done in dreamweaver and notepad. IT uses CSS and carefully placed tables and images, and its simple and easy to use...even if it seriously needs an update.

I mean lets take a quick look at puppylinux.com. the font, time new roman, yeah you can get away with it in some cases, but not there, it just looks a bit to formal and boring (i know i was on about eye candy earlier.) And then the functionality of the site, the bits with the quotes from puppy users resize, but the "mission statement" box doesn't. It's simple little things like that.

Also, i think the whole site is a bit to formal, i dont think it reflects the layed back and fun puppy OS and community.

A name like puppy linux is hard to accurately represent with times new roman :wink:

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