How does Wary Puppy compare to other versions of Puppy?
How does Wary Puppy compare to other versions of Puppy?
I know Wary Puppy was released to cater mostly for older machines but how does it (say Wary Puppy 5.5) compare to other Puppies in terms of performance when it comes to newer hardware (I'm aware that it has an older kernel)?
Wary performs about the same as other versions of Puppy.
For really new hardware (0-4 years old) the newer versions of Puppy will probably work slightly better.
Their newer Linux kernels, have the added support, for what that hardware can do.
Also, newer Puppy versions have improved core programs and bug fixes.
For really new hardware (0-4 years old) the newer versions of Puppy will probably work slightly better.
Their newer Linux kernels, have the added support, for what that hardware can do.
Also, newer Puppy versions have improved core programs and bug fixes.
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When I was a kid I wanted to be older.... This is not what I expected
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When I was a kid I wanted to be older.... This is not what I expected
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I could be wrong about this, but as I understand it the most important consideration with using Wary on newer hardware is not the question of pae or non-pae.
The thing about Wary is that it is uniprocessor so can not take advantage of multiple cores or HT (Hyper-Threading which makes 1 processor behave as 2 and is often a feature even of Pentium 4 processors). This is a difference which you are likely to notice. I certainly have.
Wary is great and has some really good features, but is best suited to older hardware. For anything other than a uniprocessor system, Slacko or Precise or Wheezy (for example) would almost always be a better choice.
The thing about Wary is that it is uniprocessor so can not take advantage of multiple cores or HT (Hyper-Threading which makes 1 processor behave as 2 and is often a feature even of Pentium 4 processors). This is a difference which you are likely to notice. I certainly have.
Wary is great and has some really good features, but is best suited to older hardware. For anything other than a uniprocessor system, Slacko or Precise or Wheezy (for example) would almost always be a better choice.
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I run precise 5.7.1 fatty on a 2x Intel(R) Core(TM) 2 Duo Cpu U7700@ 1.33 ghz see full specs in my sig. And its great. Should I be looking at Wary?
I run precise 5.7.1 fatty on a 2x Intel(R) Core(TM) 2 Duo Cpu U7700@ 1.33 ghz see full specs in my sig. And its great. Should I be looking at Wary?
[b]Precise Puppy 5.7.1 Retro Fatty Edition. Hp Compaq 2510p 2x Intel(R) Core(TM) 2 Duo Cpu U7700@ 1.33 ghz,2 gig ram Booting from 8 gig micro USB + 32 gig SD card instead of HDD[/b]
You have dual core but less than 4GB RAM. I read somewhere that running a PAE kernel on less than 4GB RAM will give slightly slower performance (1 to 2%). Something to do with having to handle 3 tables instead of 2 tables (whatever that means). I may of course be totally wrong. Precise Retro may work slightly better for you. Precise is an upgrade from Wary so wouldn't recommend going back to Wary. On the other hand, I have a late release of Wary and won't be upgrading to Precise right now as I'm not convinced it's worthwhile.NickAu wrote:@ Oscar
I run precise 5.7.1 fatty on a 2x Intel(R) Core(TM) 2 Duo Cpu U7700@ 1.33 ghz see full specs in my sig. And its great. Should I be looking at Wary?
Sorry my bad.
I run Precise Puppy 5.7.1 Retro Fatty Edition. February version.By csipesz
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 5&start=30
I run Precise Puppy 5.7.1 Retro Fatty Edition. February version.By csipesz
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 5&start=30
Well still makes it faster than a 2000 dollar Laptop with Windows 8 on it, So I will suffer the speed loss.....slightly slower performance (1 to 2%).
[b]Precise Puppy 5.7.1 Retro Fatty Edition. Hp Compaq 2510p 2x Intel(R) Core(TM) 2 Duo Cpu U7700@ 1.33 ghz,2 gig ram Booting from 8 gig micro USB + 32 gig SD card instead of HDD[/b]
No, you are running the faster version for your setup because you have Precise non-PAE kernel for your 2GB RAM machine. You are on the money, mateNickAu wrote:Sorry my bad.
I run Precise Puppy 5.7.1 Retro Fatty Edition. February version.By csipesz
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 5&start=30Well still makes it faster than a 2000 dollar Laptop with Windows 8 on it, So I will suffer the speed loss.....slightly slower performance (1 to 2%).
I am sorry
With the speed this set up has, booting as I do from usb using a SDcard instead of a Hard Drive for storage, The hours i get on battery life and other benifits I can see this machine and others like it lasting another 10 years.
So From now on I will never call any pc "stolen from noahs ark"
With the speed this set up has, booting as I do from usb using a SDcard instead of a Hard Drive for storage, The hours i get on battery life and other benifits I can see this machine and others like it lasting another 10 years.
So From now on I will never call any pc "stolen from noahs ark"
[b]Precise Puppy 5.7.1 Retro Fatty Edition. Hp Compaq 2510p 2x Intel(R) Core(TM) 2 Duo Cpu U7700@ 1.33 ghz,2 gig ram Booting from 8 gig micro USB + 32 gig SD card instead of HDD[/b]
Interesting about the battery life. How much longer can you stretch a working session when working with SD card rather than HDD in battery mode?NickAu wrote:I am sorry
With the speed this set up has, booting as I do from usb using a SDcard instead of a Hard Drive for storage, The hours i get on battery life and other benifits I can see this machine and others like it lasting another 10 years.
So From now on I will never call any pc "stolen from noahs ark"
The battery is new and with the sceen turned off and nothing else It ran for 10 hours thats without me touching it. Connected to the net but idle. dont know about working with it so far 3 hours with 27% battery left thats just light browsing and watching a few youtubes. The great thing is other than the fan that hardly ever seems to run I have no moving parts. processor temp is 42 deg.Interesting about the battery life. How much longer can you stretch a working session when working with SD card rather than HDD in battery mode?
One day I might get a SSD but why bother the 32 gig SD Card cost about 20 bucks. Plus I have a few doing nothing.
[b]Precise Puppy 5.7.1 Retro Fatty Edition. Hp Compaq 2510p 2x Intel(R) Core(TM) 2 Duo Cpu U7700@ 1.33 ghz,2 gig ram Booting from 8 gig micro USB + 32 gig SD card instead of HDD[/b]
It will be interesting to compare battery usage working with HDD only compared to working with USB card/flashdrive only. If the difference is significant it could have all sorts of practical benefits.NickAu wrote:The battery is new and with the sceen turned off and nothing else It ran for 10 hours thats without me touching it. Connected to the net but idle. dont know about working with it so far 3 hours with 27% battery left thats just light browsing and watching a few youtubes. The great thing is other than the fan that hardly ever seems to run I have no moving parts. processor temp is 42 deg.Interesting about the battery life. How much longer can you stretch a working session when working with SD card rather than HDD in battery mode?
One day I might get a SSD but why bother the 32 gig SD Card cost about 20 bucks. Plus I have a few doing nothing.
Aww that would mean I would have to buy 1.This thing came with no HDD I got it on ebay for 50 bucks It booted into bios in the foto on ebay so all was good. and my brother in law "re packed" the battery for free the old battery seemed fine to me. I have no plans to add a SSD or HDD to it the SD Card is big enough for what I need.working with HDD only
It should be. when i go to my sd card its not spinning Playing mp3's for example or watching video stored on SD Card. There is less heat, The fan is not needed as often mine only comes on sometimes for Processor intensive stuff. Etc.If the difference is significant
[b]Precise Puppy 5.7.1 Retro Fatty Edition. Hp Compaq 2510p 2x Intel(R) Core(TM) 2 Duo Cpu U7700@ 1.33 ghz,2 gig ram Booting from 8 gig micro USB + 32 gig SD card instead of HDD[/b]
Yes, will be interesting to make real time comparison. Maybe some other laptop users can help us out with this, unfortunately I don't have a laptop myself.NickAu wrote:Aww that would mean I would have to buy 1.This thing came with no HDD I got it on ebay for 50 bucks It booted into bios in the foto on ebay so all was good. and my brother in law "re packed" the battery for free the old battery seemed fine to me. I have no plans to add a SSD or HDD to it the SD Card is big enough for what I need.working with HDD only
It should be. when i go to my sd card its not spinning Playing mp3's for example or watching video stored on SD Card. There is less heat, The fan is not needed as often mine only comes on sometimes for Processor intensive stuff. Etc.If the difference is significant