Quirky April 7.0 - 7.0.3, 7.0.4, 7.0.4.1

[eowens2]

jd7654 said:

UEFI booting is for April 64 7.0.3, older Quirky and Puppy don't have the kernel support.
You would need legacy boot for older versions.

O.K. Thanks.

I re-read the Barry's News sections on UEFI and kernel 3.19.2 and I see that now.

[James C]

Used the service pack to upgrade to 7.0.4, all appears to be well.

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# report-video
VIDEO REPORT: Quirky April64, version 7.0.4

Chip description:
VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation Device 0a65 (rev a2)

Requested by /etc/X11/xorg.conf:
  Resolution (widthxheight, in pixels): 1024x768x16
  Depth (bits, or planes):              24
  Modules requested to be loaded:       dbe 

Probing Xorg startup log file (/var/log/Xorg.0.log):
  Driver loaded (and currently in use): nouveau
  Loaded modules: dbe dri2 exa extmod fb glx kbd mouse shadowfb

Actual rendering on monitor:
  Resolution:  1440x900 pixels (381x238 millimeters)
  Depth:       24 planes

...the above also recorded in /tmp/report-video
# 

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-Computer-
Processor		: 2x AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 5200+
Memory		: 4053MB (230MB used)
Machine Type		: Physical machine
Operating System		: Quirky April64
User Name		: root (root)
Date/Time		: Mon Apr 27 00:56:16 2015
-Display-
Resolution		: 1440x900 pixels
OpenGL Renderer		: Unknown
X11 Vendor		: The X.Org Foundation
-Audio Devices-
Audio Adapter		: HDA-Intel - HDA NVidia
Audio Adapter		: HDA-Intel - HDA NVidia

[Kai]

New user Bug report

It bugs the hell out of me that the latest Quirky release is so hard to find for newbies , It's tucked away and i spent ages in the wrong Puppy Projects section getting lost.

Couldn't quirky have it's own section or a quick quirky link at the top of the forum?

Thanks.

[L18L]

Installed to partition using installquirky.

Glad to see there is room for 7 other languages.

Sad to see (see subject description)

[BarryK]

Installed to partition using installquirky.

Glad to see there is room for 7 other languages.

Sad to see (see subject description)

Well, many more than seven. The script looks for existing installquirky.mo files. It will just roll onto another column if more than seven.

Hmm, that is a bug in 'installquirky' script. It checks the 'noarch' repo for existing langpacks.
Something is amiss in that checking!

I don't recall changing anything in that part of the script, so it is looking like a pre-existing bug.

[L18L]

Hmm, that is a bug in 'installquirky' script. It checks the 'noarch' repo for existing langpacks.
Something is amiss in that checking!

I don't recall changing anything in that part of the script, so it is looking like a pre-existing bug.

Maybe I was not online at that moment, just a thought.

[David Andrew]

New user Bug report

It bugs the hell out of me that the latest Quirky release is so hard to find for newbies , It's tucked away and i spent ages in the wrong Puppy Projects section getting lost.

Couldn't quirky have it's own section or a quick quirky link at the top of the forum?

Thanks.

You're better off keeping track of it from the puppy website, rather than the forum. It's featured in the "download latest releases" section:

http://puppylinux.org/main/Download%20L ... htm#quirky

Or alternatively, keep a bookmark of the blog.

[Sage]

7.0.4 iso (x86) d/l from nuugl and ibiblio, refuses to boot, XP2400/2.5Gb "Failed to load ldlinux.c32. Boot failed: press a key to retry..." Did I miss something? (Probably!). Doesn't run on 754/2Gb either - same message. Can't test on later HW at present - all in use.
No problems with April64, same sources, same 754. [Noted quite long delay prior to boot screen???].

Addendum: can't see the point of the flags&co. All the necessary selections already present alongside. Always good to have the international community on board, but strange advocate is L18L. As I've said many times, most French and German folks speak better English than our kids coming out of school. Ironically, so do many of those poor souls trying to cross the Med., or camping out in Calais. Another dose of the Nasty Party and our guys will be reduced to gestures, txt spk and grunts. Oh, sorry, they do that now...

[L18L]

The script /usr/sbin/quicksetup also has translations for some things, such as tooltips, built-in to the script. Some of which I used Google-translate to create, so you are welcome to revise the translations.

quicksetup line 956:

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   de) ttMSG="Klicken Sie, um ins Deutsche zu übersetzen" ;; #german

Other translations revised, see attachment please.

And one mystery:

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# surfer

(surfer:15628): GLib-GObject-WARNING **: Attempt to add property GtkSettings::gtkhtml-minimum-font-size after class was initialised
Speicherzugriffsfehler
# 

Memory access failure after Edit Preferences.

Addendum: can't see the point of the flags&co. All the necessary selections already present alongside. Always good to have the international community on board, but strange advocate is L18L.

Sorry, I can't see any point you're trying to make.

[Sage]

Sorry, I can't see any point you're trying to make.

You just made it!

[eowens2]

In Setup on April64, after one clicks to set up a printer, a brief introduction to printing appears in which “hpliplite

[xanad]

Note, it it easy to check in Quirky 7.0.3+ what binary executables are internationalized. Look in /usr/share/doc/nls -- I have tried to put all required .pot files in here, does not need the 'devx' pet loaded.

After a first analysis of Quirky 7.0.4 32bit, I noticed that some executables do not have gettext, if this thing can interest you, we have internationalized the following files:
flsynclient http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... h&id=83624 robwoj44 (32 and 64 bit)
pccreatetorrent http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... h&id=86319 xanad - check for upgrade
pctorrent http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... h&id=86309 robwoj44
wcpufreq http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 715#821715 xanad
floppyformat http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... h&id=80067 xanad
snap2 http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... h&id=80061 xanad
ghasher todo
pcurlftp http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 597#822597 SFR, xanad mods
pmetatagger-pdvdrsab http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... h&id=80063 xanad
pcdripper todo
dir2pet-dirs2pets-dir2tgz-dir2sfs http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... h&id=80062 xanad
if necessary I can also give you the .pot
it could be that someone has been forgotten in the list, but can be searched here:
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=95490

[BarryK]

Hmm, that is a bug in 'installquirky' script. It checks the 'noarch' repo for existing langpacks.
Something is amiss in that checking!

I don't recall changing anything in that part of the script, so it is looking like a pre-existing bug.

Maybe I was not online at that moment, just a thought.

No, offline should work, it just checks the noarch repo in /root/.packages.

I found the bug. I had moved some code in 'quicksetup' to fix another bug, but introduced this new one.

Now fixed.
...if you look at the line "AVAILPACK=''", now moved up to line 1242, you will see how dumb I was.

[BarryK]

The script /usr/sbin/quicksetup also has translations for some things, such as tooltips, built-in to the script. Some of which I used Google-translate to create, so you are welcome to revise the translations.

quicksetup line 956:

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   de) ttMSG="Klicken Sie, um ins Deutsche zu übersetzen" ;; #german

Other translations revised, see attachment please.

And one mystery:

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# surfer

(surfer:15628): GLib-GObject-WARNING **: Attempt to add property GtkSettings::gtkhtml-minimum-font-size after class was initialised
Speicherzugriffsfehler
# 

Memory access failure after Edit Preferences.

Good, de changes applied.

No mystery, 'surfer' is pretty dumb. Won't start unless you specify a file on the commandline.
Furthermore, will fail if you put "http://"

This works:
# surfer /usr/share/doc/home.htm

Any fancy web page, such as with javascript, surfer will just display a blank window.

[BarryK]

New user Bug report

It bugs the hell out of me that the latest Quirky release is so hard to find for newbies , It's tucked away and i spent ages in the wrong Puppy Projects section getting lost.

Couldn't quirky have it's own section or a quick quirky link at the top of the forum?

Thanks.

Quirky is a fork of Puppy, not Puppy.
You are not going to find Quirky downloads in puppylinux.com, nor puppylinux.org (though I believe some people have put some info there).

The "Puppy Forum" is actually awash with forks and derivatives of Puppy, some of them getting to be somewhat unPuppy-like.

The first post to this thread has links to my blog, and that is the most official place to read about Quirky, and find downloads.
Ditto, all other Quirky threads that I have started in this Forum.

My blog is also where all Distrowatch release announcements point to.

So, I really don't see the problem.

My blog:
http://bkhome.org/news/?viewCat=Quirky

[Blackfish]

New user Bug report

It bugs the hell out of me that the latest Quirky release is so hard to find for newbies , It's tucked away and i spent ages in the wrong Puppy Projects section getting lost.

Couldn't quirky have it's own section or a quick quirky link at the top of the forum?

Thanks.

Quirky is a fork of Puppy, not Puppy.
You are not going to find Quirky downloads in puppylinux.com, nor puppylinux.org (though I believe some people have put some info there).

The "Puppy Forum" is actually awash with forks and derivatives of Puppy, some of them getting to be somewhat unPuppy-like.

The first post to this thread has links to my blog, and that is the most official place to read about Quirky, and find downloads.
Ditto, all other Quirky threads that I have started in this Forum.

My blog is also where all Distrowatch release announcements point to.

So, I really don't see the problem.

My blog:
http://bkhome.org/news/?viewCat=Quirky

Speaking of forks and derivatives of Puppy Linux... I am wondering about this Quirky Tahr: http://distrowatch.com/?newsid=08279 Is this the latest version of it? Or is this distro left behind permanently or temporarily for Quirky 7.0.4?

Apologize for having to ask a lot of dumb questions, but I get a bit confused myself sometimes. I notice most of the links on the Quirky Tahr page don't go anywhere, so I assume this distro is done for.

[Sage]

Tried 7.0.4 .iso (x86) on a couple of friends machines. Yes, it would appear to be broken. Same boot failures, same messages. Anyone else?

[Bindee]

The "Puppy Forum" is actually awash with forks and derivatives of Puppy,some of them getting to be somewhat unPuppy-like.

Do you see that as a good or bad thing?

Someone else said a similar thing just recently about a project that things seem to be moving away from the user friendliness of the original puppy idea.

[James C]

Tried 7.0.4 .iso (x86) on a couple of friends machines. Yes, it would appear to be broken. Same boot failures, same messages. Anyone else?

Just downloaded and tried the April 7.0.4 cd on three boxes ( 2 AMD and 1 Intel) and it failed to boot on all three.

"Failed to load ldlinux.c32"

[James C]

Tried 7.0.4 .iso (x86) on a couple of friends machines. Yes, it would appear to be broken. Same boot failures, same messages. Anyone else?

Just downloaded and tried the April 7.0.4 cd on three boxes ( 2 AMD and 1 Intel) and it failed to boot on all three.

"Failed to load ldlinux.c32"

Replaced isolinux.bin and isolinux.cfg (just to be safe),rebuilt the iso and it now boots.

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# report-video
VIDEO REPORT: Quirky April, version 7.0.4

Chip description:
VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82865G Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02)

Requested by /etc/X11/xorg.conf:
  Resolution (widthxheight, in pixels): 1024x768
  Depth (bits, or planes):              24
  Modules requested to be loaded:       dbe 

Probing Xorg startup log file (/var/log/Xorg.0.log):
  Driver loaded (and currently in use): intel
  Loaded modules: dbe dri2 extmod glx kbd mouse present

Actual rendering on monitor:
  Resolution:  1024x768 pixels (270x203 millimeters)
  Depth:       24 planes

...the above also recorded in /tmp/report-video
# 

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# free
             total         used         free       shared      buffers
Mem:       2065200      1179632       885568        32892        10296
-/+ buffers:            1169336       895864
Swap:      2150396            0      2150396
# 

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-Computer-
Processor		: 2x Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz
Memory		: 2065MB (529MB used)
Machine Type		: Physical machine
Operating System		: Quirky April
User Name		: root (root)
Date/Time		: Wed Apr 29 03:00:55 2015
-Display-
Resolution		: 1024x768 pixels
OpenGL Renderer		: Unknown
X11 Vendor		: The X.Org Foundation
-Audio Devices-
Audio Adapter		: ICH4 - Intel ICH5