Legacy OS 2.1 LTS released
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Hi,nubc wrote:Very interesting project. First site I visited told me that Opera was out of date. Any way to get Firefox on this puppy?
The only way I know to do that in Legacy 2 is to install Wine and then the Windows version of Firefox.
Gigabyte M68MT-52P motherboard, AMD Athlon II X4 630, 5.8 GB of DDR3 RAM and a 250 GB Hitachi hard drive running Ubuntu 16.04.6, MX-19.2, Peppermint 10, PCLinuxOS 20.02, LXLE 18.04.3, Pardus 19.2, exGENT 200119, Bionic Pup 8.0 and Xenial CE 7.5 XL.
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Hello nubc,
Opera 12.02 is the last version that is compatible with Legacy's System structure and it is this structure that makes Legacy OS 2.1 work on old Pentium's.
As Colonel Panic has highlighted one way around the problem is to run the Windows version of Firefox under Wine.
Grab it here: http://sourceforge.net/projects/legacyo ... 0Packages/
just remember that Firefox + Wine is going to use a large amount of Ram so on low resource PC's you can expect a slowing down the more you surf the net.
If your hardware can run newer versions of Puppy or other Distro's I recommend you try them.
Opera 12.02 is the last version that is compatible with Legacy's System structure and it is this structure that makes Legacy OS 2.1 work on old Pentium's.
As Colonel Panic has highlighted one way around the problem is to run the Windows version of Firefox under Wine.
Grab it here: http://sourceforge.net/projects/legacyo ... 0Packages/
just remember that Firefox + Wine is going to use a large amount of Ram so on low resource PC's you can expect a slowing down the more you surf the net.
If your hardware can run newer versions of Puppy or other Distro's I recommend you try them.
Legacy OS 2017 has been released.
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Where did you get that PET? Is it the one you mentioned here?
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 972#863972
Since you mention using Lucid 5.2.8 in that post, I assume you got the PET from the Lucid 5.2.8 repository. If so, it won't work with Legacy OS.
Wireless drivers are kernel-specific: they have to be compiled for the specific version of the Linux kernel they are going to be used with. So a wireless driver intended for one Puppy will only work on a different Puppy if they use the same version of the kernel, which hardly ever happens. (LegacyOS apparently uses the 2.6.18 kernel.) Since LegacyOS is targeted at very old hardware, it's probably going to be hard to find suitable drivers for USB WiFi adapters.
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 972#863972
Since you mention using Lucid 5.2.8 in that post, I assume you got the PET from the Lucid 5.2.8 repository. If so, it won't work with Legacy OS.
Wireless drivers are kernel-specific: they have to be compiled for the specific version of the Linux kernel they are going to be used with. So a wireless driver intended for one Puppy will only work on a different Puppy if they use the same version of the kernel, which hardly ever happens. (LegacyOS apparently uses the 2.6.18 kernel.) Since LegacyOS is targeted at very old hardware, it's probably going to be hard to find suitable drivers for USB WiFi adapters.
Hello.
I succeeded in installing either LTS either Gamer to a Toshiba Satellite Pro 4300 with 320MiB RAM. It's a nice distro.
At first I was not able make it load the LiveCD. Then I discovered it would load if I deleted the swap partition on the hard disk. Strange behaviour. I used a 5.5wary in a miniCD RW for those tweaks.
I stopped having that problem when I replaced the old CD reader with a faster combo unit. No need to delete swap.
I want to install Legacy OS 2.1 permanently to HD, but I wonder if there is a way to update LTS over Gamer or the other way round so as to keep all the apps and games in a single system.
My first try was Gamer, then LTS. I chose the update option, all I got was LTS with no trace of Gamer.
Then I tried Gamer over LTS. I chose "coexist". The installer program would not call grub installer. I called it up manually, but when I rebooted, LTS would start without the games in gamer, though the 3GiB partition had grown from 1.8GiB used to 2.2GiB. There was no option in the grub menu to start Gamer, either.
A second "coexist" intent filled the partition up to 2.6GiB. No games yet.
Anybody tried that? Any hints?
I succeeded in installing either LTS either Gamer to a Toshiba Satellite Pro 4300 with 320MiB RAM. It's a nice distro.
At first I was not able make it load the LiveCD. Then I discovered it would load if I deleted the swap partition on the hard disk. Strange behaviour. I used a 5.5wary in a miniCD RW for those tweaks.
I stopped having that problem when I replaced the old CD reader with a faster combo unit. No need to delete swap.
I want to install Legacy OS 2.1 permanently to HD, but I wonder if there is a way to update LTS over Gamer or the other way round so as to keep all the apps and games in a single system.
My first try was Gamer, then LTS. I chose the update option, all I got was LTS with no trace of Gamer.
Then I tried Gamer over LTS. I chose "coexist". The installer program would not call grub installer. I called it up manually, but when I rebooted, LTS would start without the games in gamer, though the 3GiB partition had grown from 1.8GiB used to 2.2GiB. There was no option in the grub menu to start Gamer, either.
A second "coexist" intent filled the partition up to 2.6GiB. No games yet.
Anybody tried that? Any hints?
I did it!
I started all over again.
Wiped the LegacyOS partition.
I run the 2.1 Gamer LiveCD. I install.
I run then the 2.1 LTS LiveCD. Install, with "Normal" and then "upgrade".
I boot from HD and what I see is the Gamer background with the dice... the apps and games are those from Gamer... no hint of the LTS apps but...
Wait! In the taskbar, I can see the round icon for the LTS sidebar. I click and it's there. I check the drive usage, it´s 2.4 GiB.
I run Accessories > Misc > Reload Menu
I check Office in the Menu. LTS apps are there!!!
Great! I have 2.1 Gamer and LTS combined now.
I started all over again.
Wiped the LegacyOS partition.
I run the 2.1 Gamer LiveCD. I install.
I run then the 2.1 LTS LiveCD. Install, with "Normal" and then "upgrade".
I boot from HD and what I see is the Gamer background with the dice... the apps and games are those from Gamer... no hint of the LTS apps but...
Wait! In the taskbar, I can see the round icon for the LTS sidebar. I click and it's there. I check the drive usage, it´s 2.4 GiB.
I run Accessories > Misc > Reload Menu
I check Office in the Menu. LTS apps are there!!!
Great! I have 2.1 Gamer and LTS combined now.
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Hello Celeste,
To be able to combine both Legacy OS 2.1 LTS and Gamer together is something I wouldn't have thought about and I created both!
Now I see you posted your posting on December 17. The question is have you run into any problems. Do all apps work?
Thanks John
To be able to combine both Legacy OS 2.1 LTS and Gamer together is something I wouldn't have thought about and I created both!
Now I see you posted your posting on December 17. The question is have you run into any problems. Do all apps work?
Thanks John
Legacy OS 2017 has been released.
Hello John,
Beautiful and tastefully done distro! K3b a big PLUS!
Typically, aboard 528, I run a tethered connection to the Internet.
Aboard LOS, I couldn't raise my interface, much like how it's here.
Is it because the kernel LOS is supplied with is too dated?
I understand it was chosen for older hardware, like my ride.
I'm pretty sure I was able to modprobe the related drivers, but may have overlooked adding:
I know it's not /etc/conf.d/net, but perhaps another file I need to tamper with?
Have you ever connected via tether?
Any tip I might try?
Thanks.
Beautiful and tastefully done distro! K3b a big PLUS!
Typically, aboard 528, I run a tethered connection to the Internet.
Aboard LOS, I couldn't raise my interface, much like how it's here.
Is it because the kernel LOS is supplied with is too dated?
I understand it was chosen for older hardware, like my ride.
I'm pretty sure I was able to modprobe the related drivers, but may have overlooked adding:
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echo "config_usb0=\"dhcp\"" >> /etc/conf.d/net
Have you ever connected via tether?
Any tip I might try?
Thanks.
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Legacy OS 2017 has been released.
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Hello Semme,
Redhat / Centos 5 series uses the same kernel version 2.6.18 as Legacy OS 2.1 LTS.
Now the problem with tethering to your Android most likely relates to this old kernel. Kernel version 2.6.18 was released in September 2006, Google brought Android in August 2005 and released Android 1.0 in September 2008 a full year after this kernel. This means it's very unlikely there is any code in the kernel to recognize your Android connection.
I mention Centos 5 because Redhat has continued development using this kernel so it might be worth running an experiment. Now if Centos 5.6 live CD released April 2011 recognizes your Android it might be possible for Legacy to see it also.
My feelings is it will also fail. If you'd like to prove me wrong grab the iso here http://vault.centos.org/5.6/isos/i386/ and see if you have any success.
Good Luck John
Redhat / Centos 5 series uses the same kernel version 2.6.18 as Legacy OS 2.1 LTS.
Now the problem with tethering to your Android most likely relates to this old kernel. Kernel version 2.6.18 was released in September 2006, Google brought Android in August 2005 and released Android 1.0 in September 2008 a full year after this kernel. This means it's very unlikely there is any code in the kernel to recognize your Android connection.
I mention Centos 5 because Redhat has continued development using this kernel so it might be worth running an experiment. Now if Centos 5.6 live CD released April 2011 recognizes your Android it might be possible for Legacy to see it also.
My feelings is it will also fail. If you'd like to prove me wrong grab the iso here http://vault.centos.org/5.6/isos/i386/ and see if you have any success.
Good Luck John
Legacy OS 2017 has been released.
75 new Apps for Legacy OS -- March 2018
Just a link to John Biles' announcement and bigpup's post providing link to the apps: http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 693#985693