Seeing Dog Puppy for Blind
One of the problems i have in getting re-involved with this project is that the apps I once used, such as java1506.pup, no longer as they once did. java1506.pup no longer links to the java version it was programmed to. The java version given in the ibiblio archives, for puppies 2 -4, does play nice with yasr.
It was nreplaced with jre-1.6.0_13. Which works with Freetts and YASR on a fresh install of Puppy 4.31
It was nreplaced with jre-1.6.0_13. Which works with Freetts and YASR on a fresh install of Puppy 4.31
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Like an actually useful way of using a watch phone... after you add a bluetooth headset and some VR glasses of course.Atle wrote:Actually this kind of technology goes beyond blind people. I would think if your out in space, like ISS and in lots of other weird environments.
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Found a copy of Speak3pup.iso, thanks Ally for archiving it.
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 92&t=26863
Downloaded it, played with it, and remembered why, if it ever became necessry, I would prefer edbrowse. If i ever became blind.
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 92&t=26863
Downloaded it, played with it, and remembered why, if it ever became necessry, I would prefer edbrowse. If i ever became blind.
After playing around with Speak3pup for a while I think I'll leave it the way it is. i can browse the interweb, listen to audiofiles, send email, write a note, and do most, if not all, without leaving Edbrowse. Which Speak3pup will automatically boot into. unless, of course, someone has booted it, typed 'Q' to exit Edbrowse and entered the "xorgwizard" command to set up the windowing system. Which, I admit, has to be done if one wants to use puppy's setup to connect to the internet, or do something else that is easier done through th xwindowing system. once done, go to /usr/X11R6/bin and remove the "x' symlink. Reboot and Speak3pup will boot as usual
Your File download link is:
http://www.fast-files.com/getfile.aspx?file=111836
For those wishing to give it a try.
Edited to add that i know that it is based on an older version of puppy but it does what i would want it to do..
Your File download link is:
http://www.fast-files.com/getfile.aspx?file=111836
For those wishing to give it a try.
Edited to add that i know that it is based on an older version of puppy but it does what i would want it to do..
Any wonder I like puppy 2.17. It isn't that I haven't tried newer versions of puppy. The only version of edbrowse that i hae successfully gotten to work in 431 is a static build. which is fine except that there is a missing companion file and how do i attach security files to it?
Tried various versions of edbrowse on wary 5.5 from 3.3.5 to the latest 3.61. Most won't 'make' Missing jsdom.o, or missing sendmail.o errors, depending on the version.
I installed jsdom. Didn't matter. Still got the same answer.
except for Edbrowse 3.41 the lubuntu version. It installed. Then decided that a command in line six wasn't working because I didnt have xulrunner installed. I downloaded xulrunner, installed it, and tried Edbrowse again. Guess what it can not find.
If I ever do get that figured out, there's still a lib file to track down. Because edbrowse can't find it.
Puppy 2.17 may be way old but it worked.
edit - or did then
Tried various versions of edbrowse on wary 5.5 from 3.3.5 to the latest 3.61. Most won't 'make' Missing jsdom.o, or missing sendmail.o errors, depending on the version.
I installed jsdom. Didn't matter. Still got the same answer.
except for Edbrowse 3.41 the lubuntu version. It installed. Then decided that a command in line six wasn't working because I didnt have xulrunner installed. I downloaded xulrunner, installed it, and tried Edbrowse again. Guess what it can not find.
If I ever do get that figured out, there's still a lib file to track down. Because edbrowse can't find it.
Puppy 2.17 may be way old but it worked.
edit - or did then
It looks like Librepup may not be the base of my next efort. Not because Librepupu, when it works as expected, is not an excellent Operating System but I can no longer assume that it will boot to the desktop instead of presenting me with meaningless garbage. Though I suppose it would make sense to somebody.
However, should someone care to give it a shot, and has a good Librepup, all the files needed for a basic system can be found in the trisquel(sp) repository. Flite, eflite, and yasr. Install flite and eflite work together but install flite first. Yasr needs to be told where to find eflite. Make the changes indicated below to yasr.conf
and save. Copy the modified yasr.conf to the root directory and rename that file to .yasr.conf
This will not work in anything but command line apps To tst in a command line program ope, enter yasr, then the name of the app
However, should someone care to give it a shot, and has a good Librepup, all the files needed for a basic system can be found in the trisquel(sp) repository. Flite, eflite, and yasr. Install flite and eflite work together but install flite first. Yasr needs to be told where to find eflite. Make the changes indicated below to yasr.conf
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# Uncomment one of these lines as appropriate
#synthesizer=speakout
#synthesizer=dectalk
#synthesizer=doubletalk
#synthesizer=bns
#synthesizer=apollo
synthesizer=emacspeak server
#synthesizer=speech dispatcher
#synthesizer port=S0
#synthesizer port=l0
synthesizer port=|/usr/bin/eflite
# Below line appropriate for Speech Dispatcher in its default configuration
#synthesizer port=127.0.0.1:6560
key echo=off
shell=/bin/bash
special=off
up and down arrows=speak line
DisableKey=6925
This will not work in anything but command line apps To tst in a command line program ope, enter yasr, then the name of the app
Wanted to be sure this idn't get lost. As it is ore of the next speakpup release
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#!/bin/bash
dat=`date +%H`
morning=12
afternoon=15
evening=24
if [ $dat -le $morning ]
then
flite "Good morning sir"
elif [ $dat -gt $morning ] && [ $dat -le $afternoon ]
then
flite "Good afternoon sir"
elif [ $dat -gt $afternoon ] && [ $dat -le $evening ]
then
flite "Good evening sir"
fi
flite "Please make a selection from the following list."
flite "Thank You"
while :
do
echo
echo "1. Browser"
echo "2. ymail"
echo "3. Text Editer"
echo "4. Audio"
echo "5. Firelog"
echo "6. Bash shell Please type exit to return to menu"
echo "7. Reboot computer"
echo "8. Power off"
echo "9. Quit"
echo
echo "Make your choice"
echo
read choice
case $choice in
'1')
lynx
;;
'2')
mutt
;;
'3')
e3
;;
'4')
mpg123
;;
'5')
firelog
;;
'6')
bash
;;
'7')
reboot
;;
'8')
poweroff
;;
'9')
exit 0
;;
*)
echo "Try again"
;;
esac
done
You know - Mcewanw has done some exciting stuff for Puppy but the truth is very little of it is intelligible. What is a Foksy? What is a Feyer? What is a wex or a weav????Trobin wrote:Once Foksyfeyercore has been installed open a terminal window. Run the command ifoks
If only there was some way to persuade him to speak in a language someone could translate. Neither Google translate nor wikipedia can make any sense of it.
Tragedy really.
The program names are certainly a bit weird but wex is like Simple Screen Recorder (though can also embed webcam in screencasts if checkbox selected, needs ffmpeg installed, but doesn't need Qt libs). But I guess you know that so your comment is valid more generally probably.greengeek wrote:What is a wex or a weav????
weav is a multi-purpose program that allows user to store any commandline for re-use (includes boxes, like maths variables, for items in the commandline you might want to change values of as you run the pre-stored commands). So weav particularly useful for any complex commandline you want to re-use sometimes such as ffmpeg multimedia commands. The programs work fine, but the names are not very descriptive, to say the least...
wiak
But yeah, in terms of project ideas, around that interesting Foksy time, I still remember this being written:greengeek wrote:You know - Mcewanw has done some exciting stuff for Puppy but the truth is very little of it is intelligible. What is a Foksy? What is a Feyer? What is a wex or a weav????Trobin wrote:Once Foksyfeyercore has been installed open a terminal window. Run the command ifoks
If only there was some way to persuade him to speak in a language someone could translate. Neither Google translate nor wikipedia can make any sense of it.
Tragedy really.
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 406#206406
within 24 hours, this was done (albeit post edited by its author to not mention mcewanw as suggesting its simple bash/gtkdialog frontend creation...):
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 010#206813
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 010#206829
Lack of acknowledgement of project ideas was rather less than community-friendly back then from some Puppy 'stalward's' quarters hahaha. Old irrelevant wounds are long-dead (but I guess always remembered in terms of later attitude). Losing actual developers through lack of due or genuine acknowledgements, is the greater tragedy really. Some previously very active developers have vanished because of disputes (and 'perceived rudeness' of others) in recent times also, which far from promoting the Puppy community, IMO, really tarnishes it unfortunately.
Oh well, best to just do our own things in the end, and publish or not, depending on our own wishes - so much software around nowadays, so much less interest in new stuff anyway - according to the low amounts of feedback most app development projects get nowadays compared to how it was long time back on Puppy forum. New distro-remasters/spins still get a fair amount of attention, but, generally, not new coding (apps/utils) I feel, which is a pity since creativity is long term beneficial for everyone (no matter how intelligible or not it is to most folks). Just my opinion.
Nowadays, we have the likes of hamadoudou (and) Pelo to put up with - passengers who seem to think development-talk is a pain (though how does anything get created so that 'Pelo' can enjoy using it - development (be it distro-spinning or new app dev) takes time and effort usually I think...???! And to be slightly more 'on-topic' whatever happened to the concerns for accessibility - only a very few around still dabbling with that (yet we all grow older and face issues needing addressed... even if many of us had no such personal accessibility challenges in our own earlier lives!)
EDIT: Personally, I now need to carry three pairs of spectacles around with me.... one pair for driving, one pair for looking at tv, and one pair suitable for focussing on my computer monitor... Sometimes I just miss out the computer monitor ones and just stick the driving and tv ones on top of each other, which also works. So maybe foksyfeyer with edbrowse becomes potentially more important to me actually - but is edbrowse or similar still being developed and will it work on the likes of Facebook, Google applications and so on? Neither Puppy nor Dog developers currently working towards addressing any of these issues, as far as I know - small market of need in Puppy community so far I guess.
wiak
Ha! I trump you there. I have 5 pairs. Two of them have "progressive lenses" and all they do is make me sick when I turn my head - so they don't get much use. Gotta love the aging process.wiak wrote:EDIT: Personally, I now need to carry three pairs of spectacles around with me.... one pair for driving, one pair for looking at tv, and one pair suitable for focussing on my computer monitor... Sometimes I just miss out the computer monitor ones and just stick the driving and tv ones on top of each other, which also works.
I hear you there. I definitely want to have a few puppies that can be driven by a poorly sighted, deaf and shaky old hand. I reckon i have about 5 years before I will be severely compromised in my ability to use a PC so there is much I want to achieve.So maybe foksyfeyer with edbrowse becomes potentially more important to me actually - but is edbrowse or similar still being developed and will it work on the likes of Facebook, Google applications and so on? Neither Puppy nor Dog developers currently working towards addressing any of these issues, as far as I know - small market of need in Puppy community so far I guess.
I hate to see great programming die the death just because it becomes hard for fresh minds to understand. It's important to make programs, scripts and utilities easily understandable and intuitive.
In that sense Pelo did some good work in highiighting ancient once-functional offerings, and bringing to light some good foundation work that we should improve on.
greengeek wrote:wiak wrote:EDIT: Personally, I now need to carry three pairs of spectacles around with me.... one pair for driving, one pair for looking at tv, and one pair suitable for focussing on my computer monitor... Sometimes I just miss out the computer monitor ones and just stick the driving and tv ones on top of each other, which also works.greengeek wrote:Ha! I trump you there. I have 5 pairs. Two of them have "progressive lenses" and all they do is make me sick when I turn my head - so they don't get much use. Gotta love the aging process
Gosh, reading you two's comments now I don't feel so self-conscious about the sheer numbers of glasses I have lying around the house & in the car (for tv viewing, computers, for helping with kids homework, for working on stuff, seeing the dashboard vs seeing distance......)
First thing I have to do when setting up a DDog and/or Puppy is go in to both the OS and the browser/email, and set the font to a minimum of 112 dpi and/or 14 (for browsers). Otherwise, I struggle like crazy.....
This getting old is for the birds.....