Puppy Jaunty Alpha 6 Bugs

[mawebb88]

There is a faint sound after boot. But since previous alpha's I have to raise the sound of front and surround each time in the alsamixer to have the full sound. The setting doesn't stick.

I have been having this same sound problem in various previous Puppy's e.g. 4.2. Was ok in 4.1.2 as far as I can remember

Rgds Mike

EeePC901

[Béèm]

And to add to this:
The volume setting of the alsamixer don't stick between boots.
This is a longtime issue as well.

[mawebb88]

Posted on 2 May 2009, 3:41 by mikepuppy
Module rt2860 missing
I have tried upup-466 (and previously 463) on my EeePC901 and cannot get connected with WiFi. The reason is that there is no rt2860 module as far as I can tell (as in Puppy 411/412/420). How do I get this loaded? I have tried loading it but it not listed anywhere.

Posted on 2 May 2009, 4:12 by mikepuppy
But rt2860 is in ppup-413
WiFi on my EeePC901 with ppup-413 works perfectly. Network Wizard did its job perfectly. So why is rt2860 missing in upup-466?

Copied from Barry's blog just for the record.
Rgds Mike

[musher0]

Hi.

Me again.

Just another thought about methodology: do we have official "Puppy breakers" ? (:-) I mean people appointed to try to break a new Puppy before it is officially released ? Who will try to do incompatible things in Puppy, that the average newbie is likely to do without knowing ?

If a particular Puppy is any good, it would stand the test, no?

Just a thought. I guess this one is worth two -- American -- cents !

A la prochaine !

[tronkel]

Musher0 wrote:

do we have official "Puppy breakers" ?

That's a good idea! Test results ought to include a "unbreakability" or "robustness" index.

LOL, my wife often says to me "have you broken that Pup yet again?" after I have been trying out my latest mad theories and walks away shaking her head is if to say "you're nuts!"

[tronkel]

rcrsn51 wrote:

I believe that the HPLIP packages also use the file /usr/bin/foomatic-gswrapper

Had a look for the file you mentioned and could not find it on my system - even having installed the usual fixes from here, including the ghostscript stuff. So couldn't apply the -U patch.

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 2b6edd5680

Then had another think. (LOL think? - unusual for me!)

I then installed the Jaunty Ghostscript package using Package Manager. It downloaded most of the packages but there were some dependencies that it couldn't find and so displayed error messages in each case.

Despite that, tried a test page and bingo! - printed out OK using the Gutenprint driver!

The package that overwrote the previous Ghostscript package has obviously configured or written something that was missing - no idea what it was. The foomatic-gswrapper file is still not in /usr/bin.

At least uPup can now print from the HP Officejet G85 so that's progress. Basically printing now works in uPup, but HP printers seem to need extra tweaking to get them to the point that they actually print - even though they can be seen in CUPS.

I chmod'd 777 -R the /var and /dev folders just to ensure that there are no permissions problems.

Also added the -U patch to any foomatic scripts I could find in /usr/bin that had the perl #! line at the top.

Thanks for the clue!

[musher0]

@ttuxx

Many thanks for your trouble compiling beep-media-player in answer to my remark. I tried installing it on Puppy 3.02a7 and I get: "Libgio.bla.bla." missing. Couldn't find this lib in the available libraries for Puppy which you provided a while back.

I'll try it on 4.12 or 4.2, if the required libs are available.

Besides, "Jpup" ? IxQuick came up with only this reference :

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=297809

with only one mention, in passing, actually.

I have upup463 set up and running on CD, is that the closest thing to JPup ? Then again, does it have the required libgio library ?

I respect your work on FireHydrant, and all your contributions for Puppy 4.2, etc., but I guess you're unwillingly proving my point: if the user does not find his need filled in the Puppy mainstream offerings, he's in for hours, perhaps days of search and experimenting.

Granted, if the user has access to a choice of repositories, his search might be shorter -- if he/she know where to look, too, of course.

Now I'm the stubborn type and I will do the searching and experimenting, I actually like it, but some people may give up more easily. We might be losing lots of would-be puppyists that way -- for lack of completeness in what we offer.

I hope it is understood that I still think that Puppy is still the best distro around -- my aim is to suggest a methodology to make it better.

The above two cents worth would be in Canadian money (:-).

All the best.

[Béèm]

Maybe you find missing lib's here.

[musher0]

Allô, Béèm.

J'espère que tu vas bien.

Nope, not there, that's not a library, that's Barry's explanation of how Puppy works : http://www.puppylinux.com/development/h ... works.html

I think I'll take a break, now.

Tah-dah.

[musher0]

@ttuuxxx

If you have the required library handy, great. If not, well, tough. You've unwillingly proven my argument. Mind you, the other distros are worse than Puppy if you stray from their mainstream.

However they are far better with French-Canadian accents in their menus, no mix-up between UTF8 and ISO-8859-1, EVER. But that's another subject altogether. Esmourguit had told me once that Barry was doing something about it, I guess he did not. I tried the French package under jwm, it worked fine;.downloaded icewm, tested the French menus, and the accents went beserk.

I don't know how fluent or experienced BK is in languages other than English, and I'm not putting his internationalism in question. I'm disappointed, that's all. My people is used to going unnoticed in a sea of Anglophones.

Besides, I'm sure Barry has other sheep to herd.

Perhaps the Spanish-speaking or Portuguese-speaking puppyists would have something to say on the subject, or perhaps they even have found a solution to this problem? That would be a great help. Unfortunately, I barely read these languages.

Maybe it has nothing to do with Puppy and everything to do with icewm itself?

That said, I found a makeshift solution: manually loading the icewm menu in leafpad and saving it in the other language coding. It's a chore to do it every time Puppy loads... It would be much better if it could be done automatically, say, through a script.

To come back to your "BMP"package: I've unpacked your pet with Peazip, also tried it in Puppy 3.02a7, and I get the idea.

All the best, bonne continuation.

[musher0]

To be more precise:
the makeshift solution works in Puppies series 3 and 4. I did not try it in upu463 yet. I believe it was in DPup I tried it, and it did NOT work, the accents just got worse.

[tasmod]

Unable to test it

Loads to menu, type puppy pfix=ram on keyboard. This is accepted, then continues to mouse selection. At this point the keyboard no longer works, so I am unable to progress further.

It's a wireless keyboard but it has never been an issue before. Odd that it accepts it at boot menu but not after during setting default mouse.

[ttuuxxx]

@ttuxx

Many thanks for your trouble compiling beep-media-player in answer to my remark. I tried installing it on Puppy 3.02a7 and I get: "Libgio.bla.bla." missing. Couldn't find this lib in the available libraries for Puppy which you provided a while back.

No no I figured your using Jpup since this is a Jpup thread and it was compiled on Jpup, so it shouldn't work on 4 series or 3 series, Jpup comes with extra libs like dbus, gnome etc, and because of that most files will be missing something on earlier puppy models.
I have another version for 4 series somewhere When I find it I'll post it but really if your using series 3&4 bigbass has xmms for both which plays cd's,mps,wma etc and use winamp2 skins.
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 02&t=20919

by far xmms is the best audio player for linux and has the most plugins too bad that series 4.0 didn't have gtk1.2 like series 3 did, but anyways bigbass added the missing libs so it would work on series 4.0.
ttuuxxx

ps been to Gatineau lots of times, I lived on the border of Quebec and went to Uni@Concordia in Montreal. miss the nightlife in Montreal, Sir Winstons Churchhill was a club I liked. Awww can't get poutines in Australia either or real smoked meat sandwiches.

[musher0]

@ttuxxx

Bad news, cher compatriote, I'm writing this in upu466, curtesy of a coolpup info. Installed your bmp, but

1) it doesn't do CDs

2) it loads ogg files but refuses to play them. This is what I get. (Please see attached pic.)

I owe it to the truth to say that in this version, GXine does walk and chew gum at the same time... with Seamonkey.

I get nostalgic about Montreal too sometimes. There were lots of nice cafes in your area, then called the Sir-George-Williams Un. (English girls were superb in miniskirts, too...) At the time I was studying composition at Un. de Montréal with André Prévost. I miss the progressive music concerts, the repertoire films at the "St-Sulpice" Library, and the jazz at the "Black Bottom" until the wee hours of the morning. The Ottawa area is boring, but it gives me work I like to do, so why complain?

How did you get to Australia anyway ? Did you bore a looooooooooong hole from the Mtl metro ? (:-) If I was the snoopy type, I'd ask why, too ?! So you gave up Canadian huskies for Aussie dingos, eh? (:-)

TTYL

[ttuuxxx]

@ttuxxx

Bad news, cher compatriote, I'm writing this in upu466, curtesy of a coolpup info. Installed your bmp, but

1) it doesn't do CDs

2) it loads ogg files but refuses to play them. This is what I get. (Please see attached pic.)

I owe it to the truth to say that in this version, GXine does walk and chew gum at the same time... with Seamonkey.

I get nostalgic about Montreal too sometimes. There were lots of nice cafes in your area, then called the Sir-George-Williams Un. (English girls were superb in miniskirts, too...) At the time I was studying composition at Un. de Montréal with André Prévost. I miss the progressive music concerts, the repertoire films at the "St-Sulpice" Library, and the jazz at the "Black Bottom" until the wee hours of the morning. The Ottawa area is boring, but it gives me work I like to do, so why complain?

How did you get to Australia anyway ? Did you bore a looooooooooong hole from the Mtl metro ? (:-) If I was the snoopy type, I'd ask why, too ?! So you gave up Canadian huskies for Aussie dingos, eh? (:-)

TTYL

I met my wife on a Australian Yahoo Chat, we used to talk one the mic a lot, so she Came to Canada for a week and stayed 6weeks, lol and then I moved to Australia and the rest is history
Ottawa market was pretty good nightlife also, I used to go to Stoney's also miss the 6 Layer mud cake slice I used to get in montreal, And real pepperoni, the pepperoni you get in Australia is very dry and fatty. I still buy the odd"Blue" here but is almost $30 a six pack, when I can buy Aussie beer for like $35 a case.
ttuuxxx

wow your right it doesn't play, Gxine plays the cd fine but bmp isn't finding it for some odd reason, even if you direct it via /mnt, Maybe its a hal thing, I'll look into it.
ttuuxxx

[dejan555]

Hi, I'm posting this from Upup Jaunty, I have couple of things noticed, sorry if they have been mentioned earlier. First, on startup, puppy didn't offer me right choice for mouse, I have PS/2 and it offered me usb, after starting X scroll didn't work. I have some Genius mouse, don't know specific ID, sorry, but this didn't happen on any puppy version before. Also when I start rubix cube game it doesn't work smooth, it's a bit slowed down, this is on my Radeon 9250. YouTube video also was awefull. Xlock screensavers seem to run pretty fast though... Speaking of that, I recall someone said before that xlock remembers only 2nd password you enter and that's still the case.

Maybe these problems are specific to my configuration, but I didn't have to install any additionall drivers for them on any earlier puppy release.

Package manager:
I tried installing some Eye of GNOME viewer app, it failed to download more dependent packages from several mirrors.

I really like jwm apereance, is it jwm 466?
Sound worked for me straight away, but didn't reboot still...

[tronkel]

A couple of problems with the package manager.

This one is nothing new. If you elect to install say a mid-size package with say, a dozen dependencies, the download often throws up error messages about not being able to find some of the packages to download. Seems that there is not enough time between downloads for the search routine to find the next package. Maybe needs a sleep somewhere?

Also on updating the package lists via the update button - after a rather slow processing stage (conversion to the standard package format), the package manager seems to lose the Jaunty repositories leaving only the Woof and Puppy repos visible after conversion has been completed.

These have to be manually restored in the updater with a possible maximum of 5 repos selected.

Wish I could get apt/Synaptic working. This is currently stuck on a problem with libc6.

[musher0]

@ttuuxxx. I knew it: the only reason to leave Canada for Australia is love! (:-)

@all:

Big problem under upup 466,

* the mouse disappears in icewm.

* the jaunty packages for icewm are worthless, "xwin icewm" doesn't work with those, brings you back to console. You have to use the packages from our own repository for icewm to work.

* the French accents are ok in the jwm menu, but strange in icewm, as already reported. However I can't get to get to perform my little operation because neither Leafpad nor Geany offer me access to .hidden directories.I need access to .icewm to repair the icewm menu. In addition to no mouse. That really s(h)ucks.

* Almost the same for fbpanel: the jaunty fbpanel does not present the proper Puppy menu or configuration panel; I had to use the version from our good old repo.

* The jaunty aewm++ package and utilities install and come up ok. However, this wm is creepy: the desktops 2, 3, 4 lead to the land of lost bytes. Don't send programs there if you like them!

(My conscience says: "That's just punishment for not having read the docs, musher0.")

* Mouse works ok with aewm++ and fbpanel combination, though.

TTYL

[ttuuxxx]

@ttuuxxx.
* the mouse disappears in icewm.

* the jaunty packages for icewm are worthless, "xwin icewm" doesn't work with those, brings you back to console. You have to use the packages from our own repository for icewm to work.

I've just compiled the latest version, Before we couldn't in 4 series, so Finally 5 series has two up on 4 series, well thats the first one I've found for upup and tronkel worked out that FF3 worked fine on Dpup.
anyways below is what a default ICEWM looks like before I go fixing it
the menu is worse, no icons, extra listings and doubles etc.
ttuuxxx

[ttuuxxx]

Hi Barry I compiled this little Firefall with GUI called firefstarter it said I had a missing config file for it to run, It compiled fine, just won't start because of a missing config, I then looked at the online ubuntu package to compare how they compiled, and they were different, The one n upup was compiled more gnome like, it didn't have the usr/share/applications etc it had a gnome location it used.
Anyways the default Firewall in puppy has always been a bit complicated for new users, etc, This firewall is nice and easy to run, well by the screenshots the bin can be stripped to 450kb so I was thinking maybe if you felt like looking at it, that would be good, If it doesn't make the cut, well maybe it would be a nice small app for the repo. You can fir the sources and screenshots at
http://www.fs-security.com/
ttuuxxx