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Posted: Tue 16 Jul 2019, 09:17
by bigpup
BusterPup 8.0 beta-1
Frugal install on USB hard drive
Save folder.
Your choosing, but in menu>Setup there are two different programs for setting the default applications.
If you want to only have one.
I suggest keeping Default Applications Chooser.
Posted: Tue 16 Jul 2019, 09:30
by bigpup
BusterPup 8.0 beta-1
Frugal install on USB hard drive
Save folder.
menu>Utility>Engrampa archive manager>Help>Contents not working.
Posted: Tue 16 Jul 2019, 09:36
by bigpup
BusterPup 8.0 beta-1
Frugal install on USB hard drive
Save folder.
menu>Utility>Xarchive Manager>Help>Read help
Just get a blank view help window.
Posted: Tue 16 Jul 2019, 10:00
by bigpup
BusterPup 8.0 beta-1
Frugal install on USB hard drive
Save folder.
menu>Document>Evince PGF viewer>Help>Contents
Shows no help.
Just opens the browser to default web page.
Posted: Tue 16 Jul 2019, 10:04
by bigpup
BusterPup 8.0 beta-1
Frugal install on USB hard drive
Save folder.
menu>Business>planner project manager>Help>User Guid
Get operation not supported error.
Posted: Tue 16 Jul 2019, 10:22
by bigpup
BusterPup 8.0 beta-1
Frugal install on USB hard drive
Save folder.
menu>Internet>HexChat>Help>Contents
Just opens the browser to default web page.
Posted: Tue 16 Jul 2019, 10:27
by bigpup
BusterPup 8.0 beta-1
Frugal install on USB hard drive
Save folder.
menu>Internet>Transmission BitTorrent Client>Help>Contents
Just opens to default browser web page
Posted: Tue 16 Jul 2019, 10:31
by bigpup
BusterPup 8.0 beta-1
Frugal install on USB hard drive
Save folder.
menu>Internet>Uget>Help
No listed selection works.
Seems to be trying to access a web site, but not going to it.
Posted: Tue 16 Jul 2019, 10:40
by bigpup
BusterPup 8.0 beta-1
Frugal install on USB hard drive
Save folder.
menu>Multimedia>
Gnome ALSA Mixer
Mixer generic sound mixer
Both entries open the Gnome ALSA Mixer.
Posted: Tue 16 Jul 2019, 11:51
by sheldonisaac
radky (in part) wrote:For the next release (Beta-2)..
radky, what about the possibility of making delta files to update BusterPup? Like PeeBee does, see
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 11#1023811
Or, perhaps deltas are less important for less frequent updating?
Thank you,
Sheldon
Dell Optiplex 745
Posted: Tue 16 Jul 2019, 16:31
by TiredPup
Installed to hdd. Running well so far.
System:
Host: puppypc11761 Kernel: 4.19.56-buster i686 bits: 32 compiler: gcc
v: 7.3.0 Desktop: JWM 2.3.7 Distro: Puppy 8.0
Machine:
Type: Laptop System: Dell product: OptiPlex 745 v: N/A serial: JR9TYD1
Mobo: Dell model: 0GW726 serial: ..CN6986179L0353. BIOS: Dell v: 2.6.6
date: 06/26/2011
CPU:
Topology: Dual Core model: Intel Pentium Dual E2180 bits: 64 type: MCP
arch: Core Merom rev: D L2 cache: 1024 KiB
flags: lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 ssse3 bogomips: 7976
Speed: 1196 MHz min/max: 1200/2000 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 1196 2: 1196
Graphics:
Device-1: Intel 82Q963/Q965 Integrated Graphics vendor: Dell driver: i915
v: kernel bus ID: 00:02.0
Display: server: X.Org 1.20.4 driver: modesetting unloaded: fbdev,vesa
resolution: 1280x1024~60Hz
OpenGL: renderer: Mesa DRI Intel 965Q x86/MMX/SSE2 v: 2.1 Mesa 18.3.6
direct render: Yes
Audio:
Device-1: Intel 82801H HD Audio vendor: Dell OptiPlex 745
driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus ID: 00:1b.0
Sound Server: ALSA v: k4.19.56-buster
Network:
Message: No Device data found.
Device-1: D-Link System DWA-140 RangeBooster N Adapter(rev.B2) [Ralink
RT3072]
type: USB driver: rt2800usb bus ID: 1-4:2
IF: wlan0 state: up mac: 78:54:2e:27:7f:c5
IF-ID-1: tunl0 state: down mac: 00:00:00:00
Drives:
Local Storage: total: 465.76 GiB used: 5.22 GiB (1.1%)
ID-1: /dev/sda vendor: Western Digital model: WD5000AAKX-0
size: 465.76 GiB
Partition:
ID-1: swap-1 size: 1024.0 MiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) fs: swap dev: /dev/sda2
Sensors:
System Temperatures: cpu: 48.0 C mobo: N/A
Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A
Info:
Processes: 114 Uptime: 36m Memory: 3.79 GiB used: 225.7 MiB (5.8%)
Init: SysVinit runlevel: 35 Compilers: gcc: N/A Shell: bash v: 5.0.3
inxi: 3.0.34
startup text kicks in too late
Posted: Tue 16 Jul 2019, 19:32
by foxpup
I have been hesitating to install RC5 because RC4 was so good
I installed RC5 anyway, but next to RC4, not instead of.
I install frugal on SSD, boot with grub2.
I've noticed that the text that comes just after grub, from init I suppose, kicks in only after switch root.
Before that the screen remains blank/black. Then suddenly come the ~10 lines at once.
When I have 2 pupsaves I cannot choose properly, because I do not get the message on screen.
Also, when I try the old pupsave of RC4, there is a message that I cannot see, hence cannot answer properly.
I've briefly started up Busterpup as well and noticed the same lag on startup there also.
EDIT: this should be in the dpup stretch thread.
but applies here as well, so I leave it.
Posted: Wed 17 Jul 2019, 00:43
by Sailor Enceladus
bigpup wrote:BusterPup 8.0 beta-1
Frugal install on USB hard drive
Save folder.
Menu>Desktop>pupX set properties of X
Opens to Screen Saver Settings. Nothing else.
I think this is true in any woof-CE build now. The screensaver part was the only one I ever used though (I don't even remember what the other tabs were).
About looking for the help in every program: aren't those supposed to be in the devx instead to save room? I thought that's what the DOC part of DEV/DOC/NLS meant (I usually just google when I want to know more about something though).
edit: I tried this one though as a test in a different distro
menu>Internet>Transmission BitTorrent Client>Help>Contents
Just opens to default browser web page
And it worked and opened
https://transmissionbt.com/help/gtk/2.6x/ so maybe it's something specific with this puppy.
My /usr/local/bin/defaultbrowser looks like this if it helps
Posted: Wed 17 Jul 2019, 02:38
by radky
bigpup wrote:
Menu>Desktop>pupX set properties of X
Opens to Screen Saver Settings. Nothing else.
Yes this is true for recent Woof-CE.
The other two tabs of the legacy pupX have moved to buttons of the Mouse/Keyboard Wizard (XKeyboard properties and Mouse Sensitivity)
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Your choosing, but in menu>Setup there are two different programs for setting the default applications.
If you want to only have one.
I suggest keeping Default Applications Chooser.
Will adjust for Beta-2
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menu>Utility>Engrampa archive manager>Help>Contents not working.
Produced by our principal Woof-CE developer wdlkmpx, Engrampa 1.19.1w in BusterPup is a gtk2 fork of Mate's Engrampa (which is a fork of File Roller). The Help-Contents option is not provided in wdlkmpx's fork.
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menu>Utility>Xarchive Manager>Help>Read help
Just get a blank view help window.
Will fix for Beta-2
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menu>Document>Evince PGF viewer>Help>Contents
Shows no help.
Just opens the browser to default web page.
Works for me and opens to the URL below with helpful usage information:
https://help.gnome.org/users/evince/stable/
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menu>Business>planner project manager>Help>User Guide
Get operation not supported error.
If I recall correctly, Barry Kauler compiled and introduced Planner to Wary Puppy in 2011. In this compilation of Planner, the User Guide is not available.
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menu>Internet>HexChat>Help>Contents
Just opens the browser to default web page.
Works for me and opens to the URL below with helpful usage information:
https://hexchat.readthedocs.io/en/latest/
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menu>Internet>Transmission BitTorrent Client>Help>Contents
Just opens to default browser web page
Works for me and opens to the URL below with helpful usage information:
https://transmissionbt.com/help/gtk/2.9x/
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menu>Internet>Uget>Help
No listed selection works.
Seems to be trying to access a web site, but not going to it.
The Uget help options lead to
https://ugetdm.com, where most of the links are broken. It seems the link to the Support Forum is currently functional.
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menu>Multimedia>
Gnome ALSA Mixer
Mixer generic sound mixer
Both entries open the Gnome ALSA Mixer.
Will adjust for Beta-2
Posted: Wed 17 Jul 2019, 02:52
by radky
sheldonisaac wrote:
radky, what about the possibility of making delta files to update BusterPup?
Probably not at this time. Once BusterPup is relatively stable, updates should be infrequent.
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TiredPup wrote:
Installed to hdd. Running well so far.
Welcome to the Puppy forum, and thanks for testing BusterPup!
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@Sailor Enceladus,
Good to see you on the forum again.
Posted: Wed 17 Jul 2019, 03:13
by radky
foxpup wrote:
I've noticed that the text that comes just after grub, from init I suppose, kicks in only after switch root.
Before that the screen remains blank/black. Then suddenly come the ~10 lines at once.
When I have 2 pupsaves I cannot choose properly, because I do not get the message on screen.
Also, (in DpupStretch) when I try the old pupsave of RC4, there is a message that I cannot see, hence cannot answer properly.
Woof-CE is under intense development, and the init has undergone multiple revisions in recent weeks.
BusterPup Beta-1 and the k4.19.56 release of DpupStretch RC5 have the same version of the updated init. I boot with legacy grub and only one pupsave, so nothing in the boot process seems unusal to me.
I think recent updates of Peebee's Disco Dingo include the updated init. Do you observe the same behavior in Disco Dingo?
Posted: Wed 17 Jul 2019, 10:36
by bigpup
Menu>Desktop>pupX set properties of X
Opens to Screen Saver Settings. Nothing else.
Yes this is true for recent Woof-CE.
The other two tabs of the legacy pupX have moved to buttons of the Mouse/Keyboard Wizard (XKeyboard properties and Mouse Sensitivity)
OK.
If all this is going to do is open a X server screen saver setup window.
Shouldn't the menu entry be named that?
There is the other screen saver in JWMDesk Manager.
Posted: Wed 17 Jul 2019, 11:04
by bigpup
I tried again the program helps that are suppose to go to a web page.
They seem to be working for me today.
Sorry for bad info!
Maybe my internet provider was working on their system.
I was doing this at the time of day they do system maintenance.
Re: Info on system (was Dell Optiplex 745
Posted: Wed 17 Jul 2019, 18:08
by sheldonisaac
TiredPup (in part) wrote:Installed to hdd.
...
System:
Host: puppypc11761 Kernel: 4.19.56-buster i686 bits: 32 compiler: gcc
v: 7.3.0 Desktop: JWM 2.3.7 Distro: Puppy 8.0
Machine:
Type: Laptop System: Dell product: OptiPlex 745 v: N/A serial: JR9TYD1
Mobo: Dell model: 0GW726 serial: ..CN6986179L0353. BIOS: Dell v: 2.6.6
date: 06/26/2011
etc etc..
TiredPup, would you please tell how you got all that information?
Thank you,
Sheldon
Dell E6410
Posted: Wed 17 Jul 2019, 18:24
by sheldonisaac
TiredPup (in part) wrote:Installed to hdd. Running well so far.
Likewise. Many thanks!
Oh, the tray hides.
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Update 7/23/2019. Unhid tray to show that PupMenu was removed.