Windows 8, 8.1 and 10: How to Boot Puppy
Posted: Mon 27 Jul 2015, 16:10
Hi All,
Edit: July 13, 2018: If it's not too late DO NOT BUY a Windows 10 S computer. A Windows S (or 10 S) computer is a cheaper model, supposedly for those in school, which has a 'cut down' version of Windows and additional security "enhancements". https://www.howtogeek.com/305363/what-i ... different/. scsijon explains the effect of those "enhancements": http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 195#989195. Short version: as a practical matter, you're stuck with only running Windows S.
Edit: GENERAL HINT APPLICABLE TO ALL THREADS. Read the first page or so in order to become familiar with the circumstances being discussed. Then skip to the end of the thread to find out the latest information. Then work backwards from there, as necessary.
Edit: Dec 21.2018: Hopefully and probably not, but to do any of the following, you may first have to use exotic procedures under Windows. See here, noting that your system may be different, http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 43#1013643. Getting documentation about your computer may help.
Edit Jan 4, 2019: If your hard-drive has been formatted as GPT, and you want your Puppy to boot from that hard-drive, follow the instructions provided by rcrsn51:http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 50#1013650. If you don't know, find out before going further.
Edit: Nov 6,2016: Even if you decide to place your Puppy(s) on your hard-drive, I recommend that you give priority to booting from your USB-port, and place your Puppy bootloader on a USB-Stick. Plug in the stick to boot Puppy. Don't plug it in and boot Windows. Especially recommended if you do not have a Windows Recovery Disk.. More than one person has locked themselves out of Windows by messing with Windows booting system.
Edit Nov 25, 2018: Read g/g's comments about, then follow the link to limbomusic's recipe, http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 42#1011242 or from here: http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 227#989227
Try this first: http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 720#462720
Hopefully, you won't find it necessary to come back to this post and read further Except
Edit December 13, 2018: If you intend to install Puppy to a hard-drive and Multi-boot with another LinuxOS, see: http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 38#1012938. Note, Although there may be exceptions of which I'm not aware, any boot argument you could use with Grub4dos can also be used with Grub2.
Edit: July 2, 2018: Perhaps the best and most succinct overview of what is involved, and how to deal with it, is provided by rcrsn51. Rather than linking directly to that post, see my comments here, where such link is provided: http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 655#997655
Try this Next. oldaolgeezer has kindly provided an easy to follow "How To": http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 827#975827. Read the rest of this short thread, especially, http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 466#977466
Edit: November 29, 2017: If you have a computer build as Windows 10, and yours is a Puppy with the uefi designation in its ISO's name, you can install your Puppy to a USB-Key and "Go into windoz settings panel and tell it to rebuild. click usb (where your linux is plugged in) and windoz will think you have its own rebuild hooked up. It properly turns itself off and gives full control over to the usb drive/stick. It's like it was never there. No fussing with the bootloader is necessary. " Dry Falls, http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 594#975594
Edit March 7, 2017: A snafu and maybe a work-around -- http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 430#946430
See also, http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 608#943608. As Puppies can run from folders, the following menu entry should also work with recent Puppies:
menuentry "Start tahrpup" {
linux /tahrpup32/vmlinuz
initrd /tahrpup32/initrd.gz
}
Change tarhpu32 to reflect the Puppy of your choice.
Edit April 28, 2016: If you haven't already acquired a computer, you may want to start looking for one here: http://distrowatch.com/dwres.php?resource=hardware, Thanks, labbe5, for the link.
So, you have a computer on which Windows 8, 8.1 or 10 came installed as its operating system or "upgraded to 10" and now you want to try Puppy Linux.
Edit March 20, 2016 Step -2 Warning! Warning! If you're thinking about installing a Puppy to your hard-drive, study this post first: http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 229#855229 Thanks, jamesbond.
I strongly recommend that you make certain that the Puppy you are interested in, or any Puppy, can actually be booted on your computer via a USB-Stick before taking any risk, no matter how slight, which trying to install such Puppy to your hard-drive may involve.
Edit Feb 25, 2016: Step -1 icake has provided a list of Pups which could and couldn't boot via iMac's EFI. http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=102158. Expect similar results trying to boot Pups from a PC employing UEFI. I recommend not spending a great amount of time trying to boot a Pup which probably can't be booted on your system.
Edit March 26, 2016: It may also help to check this thread for what did and didn't work: http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 093#896093
Edit Aug 12, 2015: Step 0. Ted Dog has developed "No-format" install for UEFI based machines Win8 & MacTel, http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=97141, which also works with Windows 10. Even if you intend to try something else, I recommend that you first test your desired Pup via a "No format" install to a USB-Key/Stick. See also a couple posts on this thread beginning here: http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 135#861135
Edit March 26, 2016: per recobayu, Yumi Multiboot USB Creator also works. See http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 087#896087 and post following it for link to Yumi.
Edit April 1, 2016: jamesbond has called our attention to the following method, with clear instructions, for booting ANY Puppy via a USB-Stick, or at least attempting to: http://blog.puppylinux.com/?page=3
Edit: Feb 27, 2017: Thanks, mistfire, may be the quickest method for creating a Puppy CD: http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 720#938720
Step 1. You will have to turn-off Fast Startup/boot. Before doing anything else I strongly recommend searching the web for specifics regarding how to do that on your computer, model and current Windows system. The link below provides general instructions. Further research revealed that even among computers manufactured by Dell, the proper procedure differed from one model to another.
Fast Startup/boot actually is what is usually referred to as “hibernate
Edit: July 13, 2018: If it's not too late DO NOT BUY a Windows 10 S computer. A Windows S (or 10 S) computer is a cheaper model, supposedly for those in school, which has a 'cut down' version of Windows and additional security "enhancements". https://www.howtogeek.com/305363/what-i ... different/. scsijon explains the effect of those "enhancements": http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 195#989195. Short version: as a practical matter, you're stuck with only running Windows S.
Edit: GENERAL HINT APPLICABLE TO ALL THREADS. Read the first page or so in order to become familiar with the circumstances being discussed. Then skip to the end of the thread to find out the latest information. Then work backwards from there, as necessary.
Edit: Dec 21.2018: Hopefully and probably not, but to do any of the following, you may first have to use exotic procedures under Windows. See here, noting that your system may be different, http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 43#1013643. Getting documentation about your computer may help.
Edit Jan 4, 2019: If your hard-drive has been formatted as GPT, and you want your Puppy to boot from that hard-drive, follow the instructions provided by rcrsn51:http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 50#1013650. If you don't know, find out before going further.
Edit: Nov 6,2016: Even if you decide to place your Puppy(s) on your hard-drive, I recommend that you give priority to booting from your USB-port, and place your Puppy bootloader on a USB-Stick. Plug in the stick to boot Puppy. Don't plug it in and boot Windows. Especially recommended if you do not have a Windows Recovery Disk.. More than one person has locked themselves out of Windows by messing with Windows booting system.
Edit Nov 25, 2018: Read g/g's comments about, then follow the link to limbomusic's recipe, http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 42#1011242 or from here: http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 227#989227
Try this first: http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 720#462720
Hopefully, you won't find it necessary to come back to this post and read further Except
Edit December 13, 2018: If you intend to install Puppy to a hard-drive and Multi-boot with another LinuxOS, see: http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 38#1012938. Note, Although there may be exceptions of which I'm not aware, any boot argument you could use with Grub4dos can also be used with Grub2.
Edit: July 2, 2018: Perhaps the best and most succinct overview of what is involved, and how to deal with it, is provided by rcrsn51. Rather than linking directly to that post, see my comments here, where such link is provided: http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 655#997655
Try this Next. oldaolgeezer has kindly provided an easy to follow "How To": http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 827#975827. Read the rest of this short thread, especially, http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 466#977466
Edit: November 29, 2017: If you have a computer build as Windows 10, and yours is a Puppy with the uefi designation in its ISO's name, you can install your Puppy to a USB-Key and "Go into windoz settings panel and tell it to rebuild. click usb (where your linux is plugged in) and windoz will think you have its own rebuild hooked up. It properly turns itself off and gives full control over to the usb drive/stick. It's like it was never there. No fussing with the bootloader is necessary. " Dry Falls, http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 594#975594
Edit March 7, 2017: A snafu and maybe a work-around -- http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 430#946430
See also, http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 608#943608. As Puppies can run from folders, the following menu entry should also work with recent Puppies:
menuentry "Start tahrpup" {
linux /tahrpup32/vmlinuz
initrd /tahrpup32/initrd.gz
}
Change tarhpu32 to reflect the Puppy of your choice.
Edit April 28, 2016: If you haven't already acquired a computer, you may want to start looking for one here: http://distrowatch.com/dwres.php?resource=hardware, Thanks, labbe5, for the link.
So, you have a computer on which Windows 8, 8.1 or 10 came installed as its operating system or "upgraded to 10" and now you want to try Puppy Linux.
Edit March 20, 2016 Step -2 Warning! Warning! If you're thinking about installing a Puppy to your hard-drive, study this post first: http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 229#855229 Thanks, jamesbond.
I strongly recommend that you make certain that the Puppy you are interested in, or any Puppy, can actually be booted on your computer via a USB-Stick before taking any risk, no matter how slight, which trying to install such Puppy to your hard-drive may involve.
Edit Feb 25, 2016: Step -1 icake has provided a list of Pups which could and couldn't boot via iMac's EFI. http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=102158. Expect similar results trying to boot Pups from a PC employing UEFI. I recommend not spending a great amount of time trying to boot a Pup which probably can't be booted on your system.
Edit March 26, 2016: It may also help to check this thread for what did and didn't work: http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 093#896093
Edit Aug 12, 2015: Step 0. Ted Dog has developed "No-format" install for UEFI based machines Win8 & MacTel, http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=97141, which also works with Windows 10. Even if you intend to try something else, I recommend that you first test your desired Pup via a "No format" install to a USB-Key/Stick. See also a couple posts on this thread beginning here: http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 135#861135
Edit March 26, 2016: per recobayu, Yumi Multiboot USB Creator also works. See http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 087#896087 and post following it for link to Yumi.
Edit April 1, 2016: jamesbond has called our attention to the following method, with clear instructions, for booting ANY Puppy via a USB-Stick, or at least attempting to: http://blog.puppylinux.com/?page=3
Edit: Feb 27, 2017: Thanks, mistfire, may be the quickest method for creating a Puppy CD: http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 720#938720
Step 1. You will have to turn-off Fast Startup/boot. Before doing anything else I strongly recommend searching the web for specifics regarding how to do that on your computer, model and current Windows system. The link below provides general instructions. Further research revealed that even among computers manufactured by Dell, the proper procedure differed from one model to another.
Fast Startup/boot actually is what is usually referred to as “hibernate