Over the last few weeks I have been experiencing some problems posting on this forum and I am wondering if it is just me or are others experiencing it too?
The symptom is that after I make a post and click "preview" the forum logs me out or else returns me to a previous screen.
It appears to be a "timeout" issue - as if the time taken to refresh a preview exceeds the time allocated to "submit" a post.
I keep having to log in again (sometimes multiple times) in order to complete my post.
The only way I can get around it with any consistency is to "copy" my post content and have it in the clipboard ready to quickly paste and submit in one go - without doing a preview.
Anyone else seen something similar?
Is this just Google rolling out internet controls? (I generally only use Palemoon SSE and avoid the latest and greatest Google based browsers as much as I can)
Problems posting on forum
Ian, do you check the auto box and is your connection mobile tethered?
I had issues in the past until I concocted a custom connection script modeled around a script written by Bill or Tempestuous. Can't remember which.
It was almost as if the forum was choking on this type of connection.
Maybe not be your issue but I'd say your resolve could be addressed in the same manner.
Keep in mind udhcpd is built into BusyBox, dhcpcd typically requires installation.
I recall reading Wifi-TrayNet allows you to use one or the other.
You may consider using the one you're not.
I had issues in the past until I concocted a custom connection script modeled around a script written by Bill or Tempestuous. Can't remember which.
It was almost as if the forum was choking on this type of connection.
Maybe not be your issue but I'd say your resolve could be addressed in the same manner.
Keep in mind udhcpd is built into BusyBox, dhcpcd typically requires installation.
I recall reading Wifi-TrayNet allows you to use one or the other.
You may consider using the one you're not.>>> Living with the immediacy of death helps you sort out your priorities. It helps you live a life less trivial <<<
Hi Semme, thanks for the reply. Which auto box do you mean please?Semme wrote:Ian, do you check the auto box
ah yes I think you have put your finger on the pulse there. A lot of my work is done through a cell phone connection - either directly on the phone or through tether.and is your connection mobile tethered?
So that modification was made on the PC that was tethered?I had issues in the past until I concocted a custom connection script modeled around a script written by Bill or Tempestuous. Can't remember which.
Yep that's definitely how it feels.It was almost as if the forum was choking on this type of connection.
Thanks for the tip! Much appreciated.Keep in mind udhcpd is built into BusyBox, dhcpcd typically requires installation.......You may consider using the one you're not.
This problem is news to me. I have no idea what could be causing it.
It sounds almost like, when you touch 'Preview' on your phone, the forum somehow gets a different command instead, possibly one it doesn't understand.
Does it always work right when you touch 'Submit'? As a workaround for the 'Preview' problem, you could 'Submit' instead, then edit your post if you find you need to. I do that a lot anyway. I'm always thinking of something I forgot to say, after I click 'Submit'. I did it several times in this post.
It sounds almost like, when you touch 'Preview' on your phone, the forum somehow gets a different command instead, possibly one it doesn't understand.
Does it always work right when you touch 'Submit'? As a workaround for the 'Preview' problem, you could 'Submit' instead, then edit your post if you find you need to. I do that a lot anyway. I'm always thinking of something I forgot to say, after I click 'Submit'. I did it several times in this post.
I also submit then edit and rarely ever use preview. My phone's browser(s) does also does strange things at times using the touch screen, the forum will not interpret the click command correctly.
I think some of the older website software frameworks like the one this forum is built on will at times exhibit this behavior. Occasionally switching the browser on the Android phone will help.
This may or may not be relative to the problem though if it's a connection issue involving timeouts
I think some of the older website software frameworks like the one this forum is built on will at times exhibit this behavior. Occasionally switching the browser on the Android phone will help.
This may or may not be relative to the problem though if it's a connection issue involving timeouts
Ah, it WAS Tempestuous!
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 838#695838
Which @ the time I needed:
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 374#944374
Then modded to suit my Android tether:
PS - The "auto box" I was referring to is the one on the log in page.
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 838#695838
Which @ the time I needed:
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 374#944374
Then modded to suit my Android tether:
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#!/bin/sh
modprobe cdc_ether
modprobe rndis_host
modprobe usbnet
#exec /root/my-applications/bin/usbreset3
sleep 2
rm -f /var/lib/dhcpcd/*.info
rm -f /var/run/*.pid
dhcpcd -t 30 -h puppypc* -d usb0Thanks Semme - i have reviewed those threads and believe that my problem is different.
I have run the same wifi connection code for 5 years (same distro all that time) and don't think it is an issue with configuring the wifi connection.
I have also been seeing strange problems with Trademe.co.nz - which is a local version of Ebay. It wont let me view auctions when I click on them in the auction list.
Clearly there is some issue with "authorisation" when I get switched from one webpage to another within a website.
It is too much of a co-incidence that these two sites that have been trouble free for years and years are now apparently unable to process my browsers request to move from page to page. It is as if the websites are dumping my session login data during a simple page swap.
Will post back after some further testing with other browsers. Currently using Palemoon SSE
I have run the same wifi connection code for 5 years (same distro all that time) and don't think it is an issue with configuring the wifi connection.
I have also been seeing strange problems with Trademe.co.nz - which is a local version of Ebay. It wont let me view auctions when I click on them in the auction list.
Clearly there is some issue with "authorisation" when I get switched from one webpage to another within a website.
It is too much of a co-incidence that these two sites that have been trouble free for years and years are now apparently unable to process my browsers request to move from page to page. It is as if the websites are dumping my session login data during a simple page swap.
Will post back after some further testing with other browsers. Currently using Palemoon SSE
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End of the line?
Maybe it's time YOU conform to current web standards and up your ride?
But then, maybe the web facing libs that handle authorization need updating? Hmm...
Still, my guess is the outdated browser bit.
You didn't mention which OS.Pale Moon SSE for Linux has been discontinued with the advent of Pale Moon 28.
Maybe it's time YOU conform to current web standards and up your ride?
But then, maybe the web facing libs that handle authorization need updating? Hmm...
Still, my guess is the outdated browser bit.
Well, i am living out of town again (no job thanks to COVID) and connecting via cellphone and the problems are back. Mid way during posting the forum tells me to log in again. Happens multiple times over a few minutes, then disappears for a while.
Semme i think you were more right regarding it being to do with cellphone tethering rather than what you suspected about old browser.
Although I have a nasty feeling that modern browsers tag every transaction with something like a timestamp or IP address stamp that old browsers did not - and maybe that makes old browsers unable to keep pace with what modern websites require.
Maybe modern websites (and modern browsers) track IP changes and decide i am a bot or something. Maybe that is a "security" feature?
But why would that affect Murga forum?? This runs on pretty basic software.
Maybe the issue is not webSITE related so much as ISP related.
Who knows.
Anyway - now I know I have to ctrl+C to copy all of my post before I click "submit" - that way my text is on my clipboard in case I get logged out during posting.
(DAMMIT!!! - just did it again!!)
Semme i think you were more right regarding it being to do with cellphone tethering rather than what you suspected about old browser.
Although I have a nasty feeling that modern browsers tag every transaction with something like a timestamp or IP address stamp that old browsers did not - and maybe that makes old browsers unable to keep pace with what modern websites require.
Maybe modern websites (and modern browsers) track IP changes and decide i am a bot or something. Maybe that is a "security" feature?
But why would that affect Murga forum?? This runs on pretty basic software.
Maybe the issue is not webSITE related so much as ISP related.
Who knows.
Anyway - now I know I have to ctrl+C to copy all of my post before I click "submit" - that way my text is on my clipboard in case I get logged out during posting.
(DAMMIT!!! - just did it again!!)
Ian, check your inbox.
>>> Living with the immediacy of death helps you sort out your priorities. It helps you live a life less trivial <<<
Re: Problems posting on forum
a. A few weeks back I composed a substantial post, then when I clicked "preview" the text was gone!greengeek wrote:Anyone else seen something similar?
I gave up! Didn't re-compose.
b. more recently:
I no longer receive notifications of new posts to threads I'm registered to follow.
Re: Problems posting on forum
Is the post still up? Do you have a link to it?Sylvander wrote:a. A few weeks back I composed a substantial post, then when I clicked "preview" the text was gone!
I gave up! Didn't re-compose.
The forum has a 'bug' where issues with the tags may cause the entire post to appear blank when previewed or submitted - say, for example, if you leave a trailing space within the tags with the URL. You can still edit or quote the post and see that all the text is there, but the forum will display a blank post.
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IF THERE IS ANY EXTRA white space in a line with a "" the ENTIRE post will not appear. It's there but will not display because of that extra space causing an error.
So to FIX it, review the post's BB code tags that are in the post which does not display, and check that NO EXTRA WHITE SPACE is included in the URL BB code tags.
Example: Will not display ->
and this will ->
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So to FIX it, review the post's BB code tags that are in the post which does not display, and check that NO EXTRA WHITE SPACE is included in the URL BB code tags.
Example: Will not display ->
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[url] http://the_server/something[/url]Code: Select all
[url]http://the_server/something[/url]This is being caused by the Forum software. The current Forum software is not able to send email messages via https: so many of the email providers servers now filter the notifications out as "unsecured" and they are never deliveredI no longer receive notifications of new posts to threads I'm registered to follow.
@Flash somebody should make a decision on what to do.
Soon we'll wake up one day and the forum will not work at all. The code was written in PHP 5 and PHP 7+ is the norm today. The Murga web server is Apache 2.2! No idea what the mysql server is. I realize the murga server seems to be running headless so changes are impossible to implement.
The window of opportunity to run tests that I offered to upgrade the software and include all the million or so threads contained in the original is closing.
Waited 6+ months and not a peep. So 4 more weeks the test site will run and then I will remove it and work on something else.
Disappointing is the entire lack of any effort to fix these problems. Soon the forum will just present a blank page and that will be it. A legacy that no one did a thing when the warning signs were abound will be all that's left and a "used to be a great place"
Soon we'll wake up one day and the forum will not work at all. The code was written in PHP 5 and PHP 7+ is the norm today. The Murga web server is Apache 2.2! No idea what the mysql server is. I realize the murga server seems to be running headless so changes are impossible to implement.
The window of opportunity to run tests that I offered to upgrade the software and include all the million or so threads contained in the original is closing.
Waited 6+ months and not a peep. So 4 more weeks the test site will run and then I will remove it and work on something else.
Disappointing is the entire lack of any effort to fix these problems. Soon the forum will just present a blank page and that will be it. A legacy that no one did a thing when the warning signs were abound will be all that's left and a "used to be a great place"
And I thought I had criticized how this forum was maintained in years past...rockedge wrote:@Flash somebody should make a decision on what to do.
Soon we'll wake up one day and the forum will not work at all. The code was written in PHP 5 and PHP 7+ is the norm today. The Murga web server is Apache 2.2! No idea what the mysql server is. I realize the murga server seems to be running headless so changes are impossible to implement.
The window of opportunity to run tests that I offered to upgrade the software and include all the million or so threads contained in the original is closing.
Waited 6+ months and not a peep. So 4 more weeks the test site will run and then I will remove it and work on something else.
Disappointing is the entire lack of any effort to fix these problems. Soon the forum will just present a blank page and that will be it. A legacy that no one did a thing when the warning signs were abound will be all that's left and a "used to be a great place"
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Makoto, not that I've noticed much of anything over the years, but, is John the only one that screws with the phpBB here, or do you and maybe ttuuxxx ever make any modifications or improvements?
Aside from the occasional hot-linked, oversized image, surely you know that beyond a certain amount of characters placed in either an attachments "file comment" or between "code tags" explode the page and create a horizontal scroll-bar.
I doubt it's a complicated mod, but, never fixed, huh?
Maybe John feels it's good enough the way it is?
People show, can post and get addressed.
Outside of here, he's got a real life.
Yeah, we get it. We got that too!
Aside from the occasional hot-linked, oversized image, surely you know that beyond a certain amount of characters placed in either an attachments "file comment" or between "code tags" explode the page and create a horizontal scroll-bar.
I doubt it's a complicated mod, but, never fixed, huh?
Maybe John feels it's good enough the way it is?
People show, can post and get addressed.
Outside of here, he's got a real life.
Yeah, we get it. We got that too!