Switching to Puppy 4.00

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ucraniano
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Switching to Puppy 4.00

#1 Post by ucraniano »

Hi!

I'm Windows user but I tried Puppy and I liked. At this moment I have:

- FAT32 partition;
- NTFS partition;
- ext3 partition.

Now I want to have only Linux. So, before doing somethig, I want to ask some questions:

1. Is it safe to delete Windows partitions?
2. Can Puppy work with NTFS and Fat32 file systems?
3. Is there some way to run programs like Adobe Reader, eMule, Firefox, Logitech QuickCam, AVG Free, Skype, Dev C++, VoipBuster or Windows Live Messenger on Puppy?

Can somebody help me?

THANKS!

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#2 Post by puppyluvr »

:D Hello ucraniano,

Be aware that if you erase your windows partition, you will also erase the MBR
and will have to rerun grub to get Puppy to boot from the HD.

Puppy will frugal install to any format ( fat32 / ntfs / ex2), however, grub will
only install to ex2 or ex3. Having a fat32 partition around is nice, because Windows and Puppy can both see and use fat32. Ntfs is slow, buggy, and
not recommended for Puppy.

As for the programs you mentioned, nearly all are available as pets for your
Puppy. (except AVG, Puppy has anti-virus software available, Ive just never
used it.) And the devx.sfs module adds c++ capability to Puppy.

Good luck...
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Bruce B

#3 Post by Bruce B »

Welcome!

Just a couple tips.

Before I deleted NTFS, I'd save all my user files to a USB stick or
CD Disc.

Then I wouldn't actually delete the partition in the typical sense. I'd
download diagnostic utilities from the hdd manufacturer and run
some tests to verify the full integrity of the hard disk. The reason
why is you are about to do something major and that's a good time
to run the diagnostics. Albeit the diagnostics are safe even if you
weren't planning on major reconfiguration.

These diagnostic tools can usually be downloaded as a burnable
ISO file or a utility that will make a floppy. I prefer the ISO file. It
doesn't really matter.

One option this utility set provides is a tool to write zeros to the
hard disk. I like this because it makes the drive setup as if you
were installing a new drive. Simply deleting an NTFS doesn't rid a
drive of all the Microsoft stuff at the beginning of a drive. If you zero
it, nothing survives, viruses, nothing.

Then you can set your drive up as a pure Linux hard disk. That's
the way I have mine and frankly, I think if a person is willing to do
away with Windows, a pure Linux computer is easier to manage
than one over a Windows / Linux computer.

I make all storage devices in Linux format, the USB stick, the floppy
disks and of course the hard disk partitions.

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Regarding your application concerns, I can't really say. It looks off
hand you shouldn't have much problem finding Linux replacements,
but maybe someone else knows better.

I've mentioned this many times, but not to you. I still have Windows
98 installed as an application in Linux for certain programs, like
Photoshop. Even when Windows is gone, it can still be installed
inside Linux. Also, there is the Wine project that supports a range
of Windows applications.

Overall, I feel Linux is a more wholesome computing experience
than Windows, not to mention a downright powerful and good
operating system.

I'm sure others will want to have their input on your post and
questions.

ucraniano
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#4 Post by ucraniano »

My Linux partition was installed like coexist. Will the removing of Windows afect it?
Before I deleted NTFS, I'd save all my user files to a USB stick or
CD Disc.
Can I just mount my Windows partitions and copy my file to some folder on Puppy?
I'd
download diagnostic utilities from the hdd manufacturer and run
some tests to verify the full integrity of the hard disk.
Can you tell what diagnostic utilities have you downloaded?
Doing so I will lost my Puppy files (pup_save and others). What can I do with this?[/quote]

Bruce B

#5 Post by Bruce B »

If you can't back up all your user files, then you don't want to wipe
your drive.

You can get the diagnostic utilities from the hard drive
manufacturer. You can run them non-destructively, meaning test
without modifying anything on the hard disk.

I would prefer to run Linux on Linux partitions and Microsoft on
Microsoft partitions.

If you don't even have Microsoft, I see no reason to have their
partitions.

But you may be lacking the conditions necessary to make a user
files backup and restore. I don't know.

One practical way to do it is zip and compress them and burn them
to a cd for temporary storage.

If you aren't comfortable with what you are doing and don't get
instructions that seem understandable, then just take a
conservative approach.

I'm not sure anything I wrote in the earlier is imperative. It's mostly,
if I setup an all Linux system, I don't see any reason for Microsoft
file systems for running Linux.

Questions ???

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#6 Post by ucraniano »

I think that, in my case, the better is to eliminate all the partitions that I have and reinstall Linux. Am I right?

Bruce B

#7 Post by Bruce B »

ucraniano wrote:I think that, in my case, the better is to eliminate all the partitions that I have and reinstall Linux. Am I right?
I am unwilling to say you are right, the reason is I'm still not sure about your user data and if you need to save it.

I love wiping a drive, planning the new partitioning scheme and setting it up from scratch.

You only do this when lost of data is not a consideration.

My opinion is it's much easier to run a Linux only computer than a Microsoft / Linux hodge podge.

You're right with a Linux only computer there is no reason for a Microsoft partition. I even format my USB sticks and floppies with Linux format. (except in rare cases).

I also like the idea of having a few Linux partitions for trying and testing various distros.

? ? ?

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#8 Post by cthisbear »

A much easier way to try Puppy.
Still have Windows but try Puppy easily.
I install Windows all the time and just appreciate Puppy
even more after I boot there.

However; this way, you can have drama free internet browsing, reboot into Windows if there is something you really need....just take out the
network cable so that Bills gremlins don't attack you...everyone is happy.

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=31182

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=30912

Chris.

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#9 Post by ucraniano »

The data lost isn't problem for me because I've got it saved on CD's. So, I think that now my problem is solved. I will delete all my partitions and install Puppy again. Until there I've got another problem - Internet. I already wrote on http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=31521. Once it's solved I will switch to Puppy and then write if it worked or not.
Thanks so much for help to the forum and, specificly, to puppyluvr, Bruce B and cthisbear.
I love Puppy!!!

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