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Colors in new Puppy Versions do SUCK!

Posted: Fri 29 Aug 2014, 20:18
by RSH
Hi.

I've rarely seen anything more stupid than the information in newer Puppy systems presented in the so-called Splash Messages.

Who is the guy, that has "invented" splash messages for the users to be presented in white colored text on yellow or gray colored backgrounds?

Shoot him! Or even better: send him to the ISIS!

Really: this SUCKS, this SUCKS, this SUCKS, this SUCKS, this SUCKS, this SUCKS !!!
:evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:

Posted: Fri 29 Aug 2014, 20:28
by Flash
No need to be diplomatic, tell us how you really feel.

I'm currently trying out Slacko 5.9.3 non-PAE. I have to say, I was disappointed that someone had changed urxvt to white characters on a black background. That's the way it is in most of the latest Puppy derivatives. :( About the only combination I find harder to read is red characters on a blue background.

Posted: Sat 30 Aug 2014, 08:45
by Iguleder
I don't think newer versions of Puppy are worse - I like 5.6+ better than any other Puppy.

While I dislike all kinds of popup messages, I can't say they're the reason why Puppy sucks. It's a minor annoyance, compared to stuff like PPM.

IMHO, this title slaps developers in their face. :(

Posted: Sat 30 Aug 2014, 09:53
by Smithy
Rerwin made a little thing that can help some of the way maybe.

If you make a blank file and call it
personal_settings_popup_disabled and throw it in the etc department, then all that stuff won't be appearing.

Not keen on any popups too, I just like it on the rocks. I'm sending you a virtual anger management pill RSH, :arrow: open wide.

Posted: Sat 30 Aug 2014, 13:18
by Bert
RSH is talking about colour choices and readability only.. and I have to say I agree on those points.
He's not questioning the use of popups at all, just the chosen colours.

Anyway, that's how I read his post.
But the aggressive title and writing style will solve little.

@ Flash: this is easily changed in /root/.Xdefaults. (hidden file).
Just change these colours to:

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urxvt.foreground:#000000000000
urxvt.background:#ffffffffffff

Posted: Sat 30 Aug 2014, 14:16
by Galbi
RSH as being an artist, sees everything with that look.

In my daily life, I feel beauty subordinated to functionality, if it's beauty, better but not the most important.

One thing that I most like about Puppy, are the way those (ugly :wink: ) pop ups are written. The colloquial way to explain is easy to understand, and is educative, too.

Saludos.

Posted: Sat 30 Aug 2014, 16:15
by Ray MK
Flash said - No need to be diplomatic, tell us how you really feel.
I fell off my chair laughing. - Wonderful stuff.

Posted: Sat 30 Aug 2014, 16:54
by step
Flash wrote:... I was disappointed that someone had changed urxvt to white characters on a black background. ... About the only combination I find harder to read is red characters on a blue background.
I just googled "least readable color combinations" and got a long list of interesting hits, from studies to gurus' guidelines, etc. One of the gurus recommends adjusting font kerning, spacing and size when going to white on black. I had never thought about it but it makes a lot of sense.
But for terminals I like black on white best, just like good ol' paper. And even for popups, I like black on white, I find it more elegant.

Posted: Sat 30 Aug 2014, 20:21
by Flash
Bert wrote:@ Flash: this is easily changed in /root/.Xdefaults. (hidden file).
Just change these colours to:

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urxvt.foreground:#000000000000
urxvt.background:#ffffffffffff
Thanks, I knew there was a way to change the colors but it's been so long since I had to fiddle with it that I forgot how. :)

Posted: Sat 30 Aug 2014, 20:37
by don570
You can change the background color of Xdialog windows simply
with a configuration file as explained in their manual. That is what I do to
make a yellow background.
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Posted: Sat 30 Aug 2014, 20:45
by starhawk
Flash, remind me to never show you a picture of the display for my XT box... it's green-on-black! (Look up "Monochrome Display Adapter" on Wiki if you want to learn about the technology driving the screen...)

Posted: Sat 30 Aug 2014, 21:16
by Packetteer
Hi Bert
Thank you so much for the terminal
Color tip. My tired old eyes can now read the terminal a lot
easier.

Best Regards
John

Posted: Sat 30 Aug 2014, 21:32
by anikin
I use a shade of black for background, which is supposed to be less stressful on the eye than pure black.
Here's my urxvt colors:

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urxvt.foreground:Yellow
urxvt.background:#494949
urxvt.underlineColor:#ffff00000000

New Puppy Versions do SUCK!

Posted: Sun 31 Aug 2014, 07:32
by B.K. Johnson
@RSH
The language may not have been diplomatic but it was certainly more effective than when I raised the issue here before you did. I hardly got a whisper.

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 716#794716

Check out my analysis and fix of Pmount opacity (applicable to PartView too) here:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 320#796320

Changing the COLOR_TEXT variable, and selecting a larger font solved that.
I haven't got around to changing the COLOR_USED='#006793'
COLOR_TOTAL='#444444'

B.K. Johnson

New Puppy Versions do SUCK!

Posted: Sun 31 Aug 2014, 07:38
by B.K. Johnson
Hi Bert

Thanks for that tip for the terminal colours.

B.K. Johnson