a_salty_dogg wrote:For future reference, if anyone should need it, here's the link to Palemoon's own archive of all prior versions for both Linux and Windoze:
These are the official builds. The SSE builds are contributed packages by Walter Dnes. The last SSE build is the 27.9.4 of which I provided the link. No more SSE support for palemoon 28. There is a glibctweaked package of the SSE 27.9.4 build at:
I tested precise-light on a machine with 2GB ram laptop (more than 10yrs old) and all is very smooth, except that ocassionally when i shutdown the machine only displays "Precise-light 5.7.1 .........................." and hangs there. This bugs seems to happen after i close firefox-esr 60.6.1 (but i am not too sure).
quirkian2new (in part) wrote:.. ocassionally when i shutdown the machine only displays "Precise-light 5.7.1 .........................." and hangs there. This bugs seems to happen after i close firefox-esr 60.6.1 (but i am not too sure).
Does anyone encounter this hang at shutdown ?
No hang so far.
First was with pfix=ram. I did not save it at shutdown.
Next boot with pfix=ram, I saved to a file.
Next boot, I used the save file.
That's all I did. No use of firefox or anything.
Sorry. I hope the problem will be solved.
I tested precise-light on a machine with 2GB ram laptop (more than 10yrs old) and all is very smooth, except that ocassionally when i shutdown the machine only displays "Precise-light 5.7.1 .........................." and hangs there. This bugs seems to happen after i close firefox-esr 60.6.1 (but i am not too sure).
Does anyone encounter this hang at shutdown ?
I have one laptop which used to hang on shutdown with every Puppy I tried, except Tahr605. Now every Puppy I use on that machine uses the kernel from Tahr605 (zdrv), sadly that's the kernel you're using with Precise. Other kernels are available at http://distro.ibiblio.org/puppylinux/huge_kernels/. Just Uxtract them, change name to zdrv_precise_min-5.7.1.sfs and vmlinuz, then place them in your Puppy directory.
Is there likely to be any problem putting a fairly new huge-kernel into Precise-Light (and Bionic32-Light)?
I have three old desktops on the home network for the grandkids to (ab)use when they visit. These old HPs were ethernetted but I have just switched these over to wifi using cheap usb dongles.
The dongles needed a kernel-specific driver which forum-member perdido made for me and has survived their first attack/visit.
The computers run Bionic32 but I am thinking I could add a Light Pup or two to these 1GB RAM Hyper-threading computers if they accept the dongle-needing 4.9.163 kernel.
I have a suggetion if you can further remove some "seldom used" items so that the main sfs is even smaller. One of the seldom used is "grub4dos/grub/ syslinux" ,that is in /usr directory, which i think is very very rarely used (at least for me i have not used them for more than five yrs). Also i have not done any harddisk parition/re-partition process for more than 5 yrs.
I always run puppy/Fatdog frugally and without any savefile.
Maybe other forum members can suggest/vote what is meant by "seldom used" because i cannot represent all the rest.
Is there likely to be any problem putting a fairly new huge-kernel into Precise-Light (and Bionic32-Light)?
I have three old desktops on the home network for the grandkids to (ab)use when they visit. These old HPs were ethernetted but I have just switched these over to wifi using cheap usb dongles.
The dongles needed a kernel-specific driver which forum-member perdido made for me and has survived their first attack/visit.
The computers run Bionic32 but I am thinking I could add a Light Pup or two to these 1GB RAM Hyper-threading computers if they accept the dongle-needing 4.9.163 kernel.
Thanks,
David S.
Shouldn't be a problem. I had the 4.9.96-lxpup-32-pae kernel handy so I booted with that and all seems well.
I have a suggetion if you can further remove some "seldom used" items so that the main sfs is even smaller. One of the seldom used is "grub4dos/grub/ syslinux" ,that is in /usr directory, which i think is very very rarely used (at least for me i have not used them for more than five yrs). Also i have not done any harddisk parition/re-partition process for more than 5 yrs.
I always run puppy/Fatdog frugally and without any savefile.
Maybe other forum members can suggest/vote what is meant by "seldom used" because i cannot represent all the rest.
Good Morning quirkian2new, Once upon a time I stripped everything out of Puppies that I could, barebones they were called, so that people could build their own versions. Way too many headaches trying to get things to run again. I have attached an image showing how I decide what to eliminate now. You can right click on a directory, in Precise-light anyway, and choose "Gdmap_Preview". It will show you the relative sizes of all the files in the directory. If you do that for /initrd/pup_ro2, it will show you the entire Puppy.sfs. I have included the Grub4dos directory of the extracted .pet as well. You can see, even expanded it's pretty small 386.03Kb. My motto is get rid of the big stuff, leave the rest, besides I still use Grub4dos and I still partition disks
I have just posted Portable Browser Installer which will download the latest Firefox, Palemoon and/or Seamonkey, install them to a drive of your choice, remember that drive even if the name changes (usb order of insertion), place an entry on the Internet menu and ask if you want to make it your default browser.
Running this way will save use of ram as the browser files are not uploaded to ram like Puppy.
Works very well in Precise-light for me. I may issue an update soon with the updated Yad and the Portable Browser Installer. Let me know what you think.
Hello jrb,
I have installed your precise light on my old Toshiba laptop. It might have the poorest spec of any machine using it at p3 800MHz and 320MB though I am ready to be corrected. It seems to be working fine. I have installed palemoon 27.9.4SSE as the browser. I think its the most up to date one I can use on this machine. I also use it with lucid 528 which I also have on the machine. I don't know if there is a portable version of this but if there is would it be possible to include it in your "portable browser installer" if you decide to add it to your update. I would help those with low spec machines to run a reasonable browser from the off. Thanks for all your work on precise light.
keniv wrote:Hello jrb,
I have installed your precise light on my old Toshiba laptop. It might have the poorest spec of any machine using it at p3 800MHz and 320MB though I am ready to be corrected. It seems to be working fine. I have installed palemoon 27.9.4SSE as the browser. I think its the most up to date one I can use on this machine. I also use it with lucid 528 which I also have on the machine. I don't know if there is a portable version of this but if there is would it be possible to include it in your "portable browser installer" if you decide to add it to your update. I would help those with low spec machines to run a reasonable browser from the off. Thanks for all your work on precise light.
Regards,
Ken.
Hi Ken, Glad to hear that Precise-light is working for you! I just downloaded palemoon 27.9.4SSE and I'll have a go at building a portable installer for it. I don't think I'll bundle it with the others but will post it as a seperate .pet.
Hello jbr,
Thanks for that. I hope it works. I don't think it matters if it's not in your package. An easily available gui to download this version palemoon would be good. If it works I'm happy to test.
keniv wrote:Hello jbr,
Thanks for that. I hope it works. I don't think it matters if it's not in your package. An easily available gui to download this version palemoon would be good. If it works I'm happy to test.
Hello jrb,
It worked perfectly. A very easy way to install a good very usable browser on an old machine. I am posting from it now. One small issue which made me wonder. After the install process was complete palemoon opened. I made some changes to it then closed it. I restarted it using "browser" on the desktop. This started palemoon but without my changes. I had set it to be the default browser. I made the changes again and closed again. On restart this time every thing was OK. However, this is a trivial issue. One other point when using an old machine palemoon's "start.me" is too heavy. I set my startup page to duckduckgo lite. This works fine. I really appreciate the work you have done to get this working.
Hi I'm noob so sorry to bother in advance
got some questions >
1.) how to install nvidia GPU drivers in precise puppy light ?
the info that getnvidia.pet shows , i need :
- devx.pet package and
- kernel source package pet
but, search the forum doesn't get me anywhere
specially looking for older HW driver
and old precise drivers doesn't seem to work because of different kernel version
2.) where can i find to disable the easywifi tool to start at start up, since i don't need it and it kind of irritates me that it's there
also would like to know how to modify that area of the panel , it seems that in JWM-tray it is called as Dock but can't find where all the apps are called
2.a) is it possible to use ROX as the only desktop , it seems that in the options there is possibility to show minimized windows on the "pinboard" but it doesn't seem to work , does JWM overrides / overdraw this feature ?
3.) does anybody else gets rox to freeze up when clicking in the main root on the proc folder ? for me when i click /proc , it starts to load but stops in the middle of loading and the rox just freezes , tried to delete the save file and trying it with clean set up but freezes anyway , now trying it in old precise pup it is working without problems
is it a bug ? is it a feature ?
to put some statistics , here my HW specs
-Processor-
AMD Athlon XP/MP (Thoroughbred))
Frequency : 1005.58MHz
Byte Order : Little Endian
(would like to use multiple monitors , but also be able to play games or use more GPU intense apps, or even help to playback video)
OpenGL Renderer : Gallium 0.4 on NV34
VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8377 [KT400/KT600 AGP] Host Bridge
VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8235 PCI Bridge (prog-if 00 [Normal decode])
VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8235 ISA Bridge
VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C586A/B/VT82C686/A/B/VT823x/A/C PIPC
Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ (rev 10)
Audio Adapter : Audigy2 - SB Audigy 2 Value [SB0400]
and some old 80GB and 20GB HDD
Once again sorry for bothering , thank you very much in advance for your patience and hard work