Puppy 2.15CE RC2 Standard Edition Plus
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Jactek I am sorry you machine is too powerful to run puppy, try vista
I've haven't been involved with CE due to little RAM (240M) to run it, I'll find those files and put them on puptrix.
I've haven't been involved with CE due to little RAM (240M) to run it, I'll find those files and put them on puptrix.
Yep. Did that (several times) and still no menu entries. I checked (and rechecked) Nathan's updated XDG directory and menu files, too. No joy. Maybe it's just me, but from the posts above I don't really think so. Has something fundamental changed in the way XDG menus are dynamically created?Pizzasgood wrote:To get the menus working, just open a terminal and run fixmenus then restart the windowmanager. Presto, you should have menu entries.
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Puppy 2.15CE RC2 Standard Edition Plus
If a superstar like WhoDo cant get things to work, what chance have I ?
Everything looks brilliant on paper but how do I get it onto my system. ?
I am having great fun experimenting at finding what I can do and what suits me but to have what looks so near to my ideal setup only to find that is is so far away is so frustrating.
I was hopefull that I could put this on a Flash Drive aand progress from there but so far I am stuck.
Your guidance will be most helpfull
Ian
Everything looks brilliant on paper but how do I get it onto my system. ?
I am having great fun experimenting at finding what I can do and what suits me but to have what looks so near to my ideal setup only to find that is is so far away is so frustrating.
I was hopefull that I could put this on a Flash Drive aand progress from there but so far I am stuck.
Your guidance will be most helpfull
Ian
A Few Bugs
I found a few problems. When I switch to jwm, the menu has no option to switch back to icewm, I have to type restartwm icewm in a command window. Also, in jwm, Gaim is not in the menu, so it has to be typed in from the command line.
I tried to rip an audio cd, it said I have to belong to the cdrom group or otherwise get permission.
Ralph
I tried to rip an audio cd, it said I have to belong to the cdrom group or otherwise get permission.
Ralph
Re: Puppy 2.15CE RC2 Standard Edition Plus
Ok, we need to know a bit more about the error message. What did it actually say? Did you check the md5sum for the ISO after downloading?Scoticus wrote:I liked the look of what was on offer but find that when I burn the ISO to disk I end up with error message when closing / rebooting. I am using multisession disk as it lets me experiment with what I am looking for.
Are you using CD-RW? There are known issues with CD-RW multi-session. CD-R multi-session is fine ... I know because I always burn a test copy that way before uploading.
Don't worry about Dave's queries just yet. Let's get it booting right for you first, ok?
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Re: Puppy 2.15CE RC2 Standard Edition Plus
I ain't not no superstar! Everything is "working" ok, but the menu system isn't updating so the applications are easy to use. We'll work that out before Final, no worries.Scoticus wrote:If a superstar like WhoDo cant get things to work, what chance have I ?
The best way, if you want to start with a full setup, is to download the iso and sfs files, then use Isomaster to add the sfs files to the iso. Then burn the iso to CD-R. Everything should then be available on the CD for next boot.Scoticus wrote: Everything looks brilliant on paper but how do I get it onto my system. ?
That's very much the point with Puppy - the fun part, not the frustration. The fact it is also so complete, fast and usable is a bonus for the likes of us who are learning as we go.Scoticus wrote: I am having great fun experimenting at finding what I can do and what suits me but to have what looks so near to my ideal setup only to find that is is so far away is so frustrating.
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Re: A Few Bugs
Yep. That's a long-standing JWM issue. I'll have a look and see if I can organise a workaround using XDG menus.ralphv wrote:When I switch to jwm, the menu has no option to switch back to icewm, I have to type restartwm icewm in a command window. Also, in jwm, Gaim is not in the menu, so it has to be typed in from the command line.
In Puppy you are root by default and root has access to absolutely everything? What program were you trying to use?ralphv wrote:I tried to rip an audio cd, it said I have to belong to the cdrom group or otherwise get permission.
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I think the problem is bandwidth. Lot's of puppies trying to download their new toy all at the same time. Although they are separate mirror sites, I believe at least two are using the same server; hence the bandwidth issues. We're looking at a generous offer to host for free on another server, so hopefully that situation should improve in time, and Barry has said he will host Final at ibiblio.org.Jactek wrote:Got it 6th or 7th time must be the charm !!!!
Looks good
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Ok. Must be just extremely high demand then.Previously known as Guest wrote:Same host, but different servers.WhoDo wrote: I believe at least two are using the same server;
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Re: A Few Bugs
ripperxWhoDo wrote:Yep. That's a long-standing JWM issue. I'll have a look and see if I can organise a workaround using XDG menus.ralphv wrote:When I switch to jwm, the menu has no option to switch back to icewm, I have to type restartwm icewm in a command window. Also, in jwm, Gaim is not in the menu, so it has to be typed in from the command line.
In Puppy you are root by default and root has access to absolutely everything? What program were you trying to use?ralphv wrote:I tried to rip an audio cd, it said I have to belong to the cdrom group or otherwise get permission.
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Yep, seems that peeps love their Puppy variants. Servage currently let me hit 110GB in one day which is astounding to think that much was downloaded in 24 hrs. (actually less than 24 hrs & tickets have been submitted on that issue.) Still when MU's site & mine both go over the limit, which happens... that's 200+GB.WhoDo wrote: Ok. Must be just extremely high demand then.
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OffSite Puppy Mirror
I read some on the Bandwidth problems and thought this might help
I uploaded puppy-215CE-RC2-Standard and the extra sfs files to MiHD.net Just Click where it says request download link then click download link
puppy-215CE-RC2-Standard.iso
OOo_215.sfs
web_215.sfs
fltkc++_215.sfs
Maybe this will help in any case it's free
I uploaded puppy-215CE-RC2-Standard and the extra sfs files to MiHD.net Just Click where it says request download link then click download link
puppy-215CE-RC2-Standard.iso
OOo_215.sfs
web_215.sfs
fltkc++_215.sfs
Maybe this will help in any case it's free
Last edited by willhunt on Mon 26 Mar 2007, 09:26, edited 3 times in total.
mirror at puptrix
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Re: Puppy 2.15CE RC2 Standard Edition Plus
After several false starts I finally added the web.sfs and pgs.sfs files to the Puppy 215CE iso and burned a multisession DVD+RW with the super-sized (~250 MB) "Graphics" iso. The DVD boots, saves and reboots with the saved settings. I can see them when I mount the DVD, but I don't know if the extra sfs files are doing anything. .Nathan wrote:The best way, if you want to start with a full setup, is to download the iso and sfs files, then use Isomaster to add the sfs files to the iso. Then burn the iso to CD-R. Everything should then be available on the CD for next boot.Scoticus wrote: Everything looks brilliant on paper but how do I get it onto my system. ?
I must say, SeaMonkey's download manager seems to be a waste of pixels. It must be either buggy or misconfigured somehow. The first time I tried to download the sfs files, the download manager reported "finished" even though, as it turned out, each file had only about 22 MB. I didn't realize the files were incomplete until I had wasted about an hour trying to make a new iso with them using ISOmaster. I guess it's a good thing ISOmaster would not work with incomplete files. (I know, I should have used wget, and checked the md5 sums. )
ISOmaster took a while to figure out but not too long. It would have been faster if the sfs files had been downloaded correctly. When ISOmaster wouldn't save the iso I had made with them, I started poking around and discovered the files were incomplete. I was careful not to do anything else with the computer while they downloaded the second time, and they both downloaded completely. Maybe SeaMonkey's download manager is somehow counting every packet received as going to the download, so if you're browsing the internet while you're downloading, the download manager comes to the wrong total. That's just a wild-ass guess.
I booted the new "Graphics" DVD+RW I burned, changed a few things, shut down saving to the DVD, and booted again. The saved settings were remembered, but I don't know how to tell if the sfs files are correctly "installed" and useable. How can I tell?
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Re: Puppy 2.15CE RC2 Standard Edition Plus
Yep. If you included the pgs_215.sfs, then you should be able to type gimp in a console and have it run. That will show it is there and mounted. We're still trying to work out why the menu system updates on Pizzasgood's machine but not on mine, or yours evidently.Flash wrote:I booted the new "Graphics" DVD+RW I burned, changed a few things, shut down saving to the DVD, and booted again. The saved settings were remembered, but I don't know how to tell if the sfs files are correctly "installed" and useable. How can I tell?
I'm presuming you don't have Gimp in your graphics menu ... you don't, do you? Go to a console and type fixmenus, then restart Icewm to see if the menu is updated with either an Office menu or the addition of graphics programs to the graphics menu.
You can test the web_215.sfs by typing firefox in a console, too.
Shortcuts for the programs in the sfs files are in /usr/local/bin and should be able to be dragged to the desktop and run from there until we get the menu's behaving nicely.
Hope that helps.
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Thanks, willhunt. Much appreciated.
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Great, Ted Dog! That should help out with the downloads, big time! Much appreciated.Ted Dog wrote:http://puptrix.org//isos/ce
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Good news, bad news, and ugly news regarding web_215.sfs (the current one is actually a beta/rc, just as the ISO is).
Good: I've already replaced NVU with KompoZer (no, not dependent on KDElephant, just a bug-fixed version of NVU)
Bad: Flash was still buggy. I fixed a big error I made, but it didn't change anything. If you try leaving a page while flash is running, Firefox locks up (open a terminal and use killall firefox; killall firefox-bin
Ugly: The Flash problem isn't my fault, as far as I can see. Something is different in 2.15, because it works fine in vanilla Pizzapup 3.0 and vanilla Puppy 2.14.
I'll try figuring out the difference tomorrow. Right now I need to put my bed back together so I can sleep.
Good: I've already replaced NVU with KompoZer (no, not dependent on KDElephant, just a bug-fixed version of NVU)
Bad: Flash was still buggy. I fixed a big error I made, but it didn't change anything. If you try leaving a page while flash is running, Firefox locks up (open a terminal and use killall firefox; killall firefox-bin
Ugly: The Flash problem isn't my fault, as far as I can see. Something is different in 2.15, because it works fine in vanilla Pizzapup 3.0 and vanilla Puppy 2.14.
I'll try figuring out the difference tomorrow. Right now I need to put my bed back together so I can sleep.
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