puppy gui does not run on my new asua P5B dual core pentium

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puppy gui does not run on my new asua P5B dual core pentium

#1 Post by zaw »

hi,

I have 3 PCs. the newest that I have is an asus P5B dual core pentium 2.4MHz FSB800, 1G ram. win XP, HD is NTFS with 3 partitioned. C: D: E:

I burnt puppy 2.15 on CD

It would boot into boot:, extracts files but at a particular point it has errors and it goes exit commandline etc and # prompt. I can't find any useful files. When I <ls> it comes up with a list but directories seemed empty.

Now, when I use another machine with ASUS p4s800 (Iam not sure about the s) with Pentium 2.4GHz FSB800, 256M ram, winXP and NTFS . the same CD boots and runs the GUI and works fine!

can someone let me know how I can make Puppy work from CD on the duel core machine? Is dual core different in some way?

PS. TRK does the same thing.. comes up with errors and then nothing.

regards
Patrick

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#2 Post by Flash »

All I can think to suggest is, try a CD of the latest Puppy (2.16) and see if that works. It seems to me that for the CD to boot as far as it did, the dual-core CPU has to run Linux in some mode or other.

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Did you check the MD5 of the download?

#3 Post by purple_ghost »

Does this particular CD boot on any computer correctly? Might be the Download or the burn is not good. How did you burn the CD?

Have you read the info on:

http://www.puppyos.com/download/downpage.htm

Please advise what you know/have found out. Someone will try to help.

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#4 Post by GuestToo »

you can try looking in /tmp/xerrs.log ... type:

more /tmp/xerrs.log

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#5 Post by zaw »

hi,

Lost my password and could not reply.

ok....can't cd into any of the directories so can't get to error log.

the Puppy, Knoppix, mini Konppix, slax etc all fail to start on my machine.
but they all start on the older machines!!!!!

the new machine has sata and IDE and you have to set up sata as IDE or something in the BIOS. The CMOS setup does not have any IDE detection (does not list the IDE drives) like the hard drives have sata detection and lists the HDrives.

When the machine starts it actually detects the cd rom drives and I think this has something to do with it.

I really don't know.

the error is different on different versions of Linux.

Knoppix says "Can't find KNOPPIX filesystem, sorry"
Puppy says cant find ide drive

I think it is the BIOS or different drivers are needed for linux.

regards
Patrick

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#6 Post by Béèm »

I have a dual core PC as well (Medion MD8818)
The DVD is recognized and I can boot, no problem.
Puppy, nor other Linux flavors, don't recognize the sata HDD's in the machine, but I can run Puppy and save the pup_save on a CF card.
I run 2.16.1, but I think it worked with 2.15CE as well.

Is you controller card for the HDD's by accident a VIA Technology one?

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#7 Post by zaw »

hi

My computer uses the JMicron controller for sata/hsata and Ide
in the bios there are options to setup sata and IDe and RAID.

I am 99% sure now that I read the forums and things that it is a lack of
drivers for this controller that is causing the problem. May need to upgrade the bios or ASUS/JMicron may have some drivers for linux.

The thing is I don't know for certain. That is what annoys me.

Yes I have been successful in booting puppy from USB. It works fine.


Although I did not try to access the CDROMs I will try to access them. should be intersting to see if puppy can access them.

On mine there is no problem accessing SATA hd once puppy is running so I expect it will be the same with cdroms.

I wish someone would tell me for certain.

I don't mind if linux cant boot from CD on mne but just like to know.

regards
Patrick

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#8 Post by Dougal »

It's not clear from your message where exactly the boot stops.

You should try booting again with it and tell us what error messages you got before it stopped.
You also didn't seem to mention the type of cdrom you have (ide, sata).
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#9 Post by Sage »

Great news!
Just spotted this one.
Folks trying to run The Pup with a dual core and Intel and 1Gb and NTFS present haven't been following the plot. Maybe an appointment with a local shrink?! Probably got SATA, wifi and a bunch of other irrelevant stuff too?!
On their way to their appointment, why not pick up some roadside garbage PC put out for refuse - shouldn't have any issues running Puppy on that.......

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#10 Post by paulsiu »

Well, lots of Linux have trouble with Asus P5B. Have you try the following boot parameter:

all-generic-ide irqpoll

Various distro have booted using all-generic-ide irqpoll. Not sure if you can do this in Puppy though.

Paul

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#11 Post by Bruce B »

Flash wrote:All I can think to suggest is, try a CD of the latest Puppy (2.16) and see if that works. It seems to me that for the CD to boot as far as it did, the dual-core CPU has to run Linux in some mode or other.
The latest is 2.16.1, but don't hold your breath, tomorrow it could be 2.17

I have an Asus 2.8 dual core with 2.5 GB RAM

No problem with Puppy and Asus dual core per se. But I've had some problems with my homemade frugal install. It gets to a point where these two lines display and hangs.

usage init
init is the parent of all process

Then I have to power off.

The partition is hda1 and the filesystem is ext2, just don't know what causes it.

I'd just be on the lookout that there may actually be some problems with the Asus dual processor boards. But overall things work okay:

Normal install is okay
Booting from CD is okay and saving and reusing the pup_save file works.

As for other install types - I don't know.

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#12 Post by cthisbear »

" paulsiu

Well, lots of Linux have trouble with Asus P5B.
Have you try the following boot parameter:

all-generic-ide irqpoll

Various distro have booted using all-generic-ide irqpoll. Not sure if you can do this in Puppy though.
Paul "
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A little off topic but I wish these - off the wall commands - could be permanently placed where Newbies could see them easily, and try them out.
Rudy Puppies default commands and the like included etc, etc.

Regards Chris.

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