PCMan Filemanager updated Feb, 03

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plinej · #21 Post by **plinej** » Sun 03 Feb 2008, 19:42

There's finally a new release of pcmanfm out today.

http://pcmanfm.sourceforge.net/

#22 Post by MU » Sun 03 Feb 2008, 22:59

Fantastic.
The big pictures or /proc no longer crash it.
Now it is "perfect"

I updated it with my patches and uploaded the new dotpup.
It now is compiled with support for hal-storage.
That lib is included.
This is needed to mount drives.

On my Puppy it will not work though, as I have no "hal-daemon" running.
But if you find out how to add that, pcmanfm should use it.

Mark

#23 Post by MU » Mon 04 Feb 2008, 00:11

oh no, it is broken.
The mime-handling was completely rewritten, and does not work in Puppy

Mark

#24 Post by MU » Mon 04 Feb 2008, 03:45

ok, wrote new converterscripts.
Now new, "invisible" .desktop files are created from the rox-mimetypes.
These .desktop-files are placed in
/usr/share/applications/puppy, and contain the mime-type definitions.

This new pcmanfm depends on desktop-file-utils.
My scripts offer to download/install a dotpup I once made.

Mark

#25 Post by MU » Mon 04 Feb 2008, 09:38

Updated dotpup.
my script rox2desktop had some wrong entries, fixed now.

However I found another bug:
if you right-click a file, open with, then you can choose "all applications".
Some crash pcmanfm, e.g. if you try to open a .jpg with "defaultdraw".

This should be checked...
Mark

Joshas · #26 Post by **Joshas** » Mon 04 Feb 2008, 13:45

Nice to see that development continues. I really like this file manager - is simple, fast and has only a few dependencies.
What about mounting drives in it? I wonder if it would be possible to substitute current Puppy Drive Mounter with it?

#27 Post by MU » Tue 05 Feb 2008, 04:08

As far as I understood, the mounting-features require the HAL-Daemon.
We have no package for that.
I compiled pcmanfm with HAL-Support, so it could use the daemon, if we had it.

One of the 2.1x Retro-Puppys has an own solution to mount drives.
Some Icons lying on the desktops.
It would be great to have this as a dotpup.

Mark

#28 Post by MU » Tue 05 Feb 2008, 04:34

Updated dotpup.
Minor change in "/usr/local/bin/rox":

Pcmanfm did not open, if invoked as
rox -d thefolder

Fix:

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if [ "$usepcmanfm" == "1" ];then
a=$1
if [ "$1" == "-d" ];then
a=""
fi
pcmanfm $a $2 $3 $4 $5 $6 $7 $8 $9 &
exit 0
fi

Mark

Jon_J · #29 Post by **Jon_J** » Mon 10 Mar 2008, 02:26

I launched pcmanfm in a console and it is missing this lib:
libstartup-notification-1.so.0
I downloaded the 5 libs below from http://www.puppylinux.ca/ttuuxxx/Libs/
libstartup-notification-1.a
libstartup-notification-1.la
libstartup-notification-1.so
libstartup-notification-1.so.0
libstartup-notification-1.so.0.0.0

Should these be linked together in a package?
I tried copying libstartup-notification-1.so.0 to /usr/lib
Now pcmanfm spits out this error. "libstartup-notification-1.so.0" file too short"

The above website is the only place I could find this lib.
This forum returns nothing in search, although this lib is listed in this thread:
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 79f9f28433

I'm just asking, why not have these libs symlinked together and in a package with the symlinks already created?
I don't know which of the above five libs needs to be symlinked to which one of the other five.

Off topic: When searching for a lib for my Zaurus, (linux embedded palmtop), all the libs are in packages and they are already symlinked together.
Inside the packages some only have 3 files, but others have 5 files, and several of these files(libs) are just a symlink of one of the other files(libs) in that particular lib package.

EDIT:
I just found the above lib that pcmanfm is looking for.
They are in /usr/local/Pcmanfm/lib

Do I need to symlink all these libs to /usr/lib ?

#30 Post by MU » Mon 10 Mar 2008, 04:23

the libs should be included by /usr/bin/pcmanfm , which is a script.
It includes this line:

export LD_LIBRARY_PATH="/usr/local/Pcmanfm/lib:$LD_LIBRARY_PATH"

Can you confirm that?

If yes, then maybe libstartup-notification cannot be loaded because of another missing lib.

Please type this in a console:

cd /usr/local/Pcmanfm/lib
ldd libstartup-notification-1.so

This should report:

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# ldd libstartup-notification-1.so
        linux-gate.so.1 =>  (0xffffe000)
        libSM.so.6 => /usr/X11R7/lib/libSM.so.6 (0xb7fe0000)
        libICE.so.6 => /usr/X11R7/lib/libICE.so.6 (0xb7fc8000)
        libX11.so.6 => /usr/lib/libX11.so.6 (0xb7ee0000)
        libc.so.6 => /lib/libc.so.6 (0xb7d9e000)
        libxcb-xlib.so.0 => /usr/lib/libxcb-xlib.so.0 (0xb7d9c000)
        libxcb.so.1 => /usr/lib/libxcb.so.1 (0xb7d84000)
        libdl.so.2 => /lib/libdl.so.2 (0xb7d80000)
        /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x80000000)
        libXau.so.6 => /usr/X11R7/lib/libXau.so.6 (0xb7d7d000)
        libXdmcp.so.6 => /usr/X11R7/lib/libXdmcp.so.6 (0xb7d78000)

If you get a "not found" here, please tell me what is not found.

Mark

Jon_J · #31 Post by **Jon_J** » Mon 10 Mar 2008, 18:12

MU,
I'll have to try your suggestions later, sorry...
I have since uninstalled PCManfm, and doing this caused my desktop to disappear upon restart of 'X'
I decided to re-install puppy-2.17.1-nolzma-seamonkey-fulldrivers.iso onto itself, but then Grub got corrupted.
I know I should have used a backup, but I just started using Puppy Linux, for the first time, 3 days ago, and haven't made any backups.
Using the Live-CD, I reformatted my linux partition and started over from a fresh install of puppy-2.17.1-nolzma-seamonkey-fulldrivers.iso

I also need to mention that I had previously tried installing several other dotpups and had probs with them.
I tried 2 versions of emelfm2 and had to uninstall them. I tried 3 different versions of mrxvt before I found a version with transparency that worked.
Installing those, and several other dotpups and pets required some additional libraries and dependencies that may have corrupted my Puppy setup. This is why I decided to start over with a fresh install of Puppy.
I'll try PCManfm later when I get more time... It will be my first dotpup along with "Gnome-icon-theme-2.14.2.pup"

MU wrote:the libs should be included by /usr/bin/pcmanfm , which is a script.
It includes this line:
export LD_LIBRARY_PATH="/usr/local/Pcmanfm/lib:$LD_LIBRARY_PATH"
Can you confirm that?

If yes, then maybe libstartup-notification cannot be loaded because of another missing lib.

Please type this in a console:

cd /usr/local/Pcmanfm/lib
ldd libstartup-notification-1.so

This should report:
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# ldd libstartup-notification-1.so
        linux-gate.so.1 =>  (0xffffe000)
        libSM.so.6 => /usr/X11R7/lib/libSM.so.6 (0xb7fe0000)
        libICE.so.6 => /usr/X11R7/lib/libICE.so.6 (0xb7fc8000)
        libX11.so.6 => /usr/lib/libX11.so.6 (0xb7ee0000)
        libc.so.6 => /lib/libc.so.6 (0xb7d9e000)
        libxcb-xlib.so.0 => /usr/lib/libxcb-xlib.so.0 (0xb7d9c000)
        libxcb.so.1 => /usr/lib/libxcb.so.1 (0xb7d84000)
        libdl.so.2 => /lib/libdl.so.2 (0xb7d80000)
        /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x80000000)
        libXau.so.6 => /usr/X11R7/lib/libXau.so.6 (0xb7d7d000)
        libXdmcp.so.6 => /usr/X11R7/lib/libXdmcp.so.6 (0xb7d78000)
If you get a "not found" here, please tell me what is not found.

Mark

Jon_J · #32 Post by **Jon_J** » Tue 11 Mar 2008, 02:08

I decided to change my Puppy to "fat-free-3.01-xorg", (Ignore my sig, I need to update it).
I'm getting the same notifications on fat-free-3.01 as I did when installing Pcmanfm on Puppy 2.17
I first installed "Gnome-icon-theme-2.14.2.pup"
Then while Pcmanfm is installing, the first message I get is:
created backup: /usr/local/bin/rox.12710
Then I get another message:
These files already exist, overwrite them?
=> /usr/local/bin/rox

I decided to abort this install at this point because (as mentioned in my post above) I lost my desktop after I un-installed Pcmanfm on my previous Puppy 2.17

Jon_J · #33 Post by **Jon_J** » Tue 18 Mar 2008, 02:27

opps - double post

Jon_J · #34 Post by **Jon_J** » Tue 18 Mar 2008, 02:30

MU wrote:the libs should be included by /usr/bin/pcmanfm , which is a script.
It includes this line:
export LD_LIBRARY_PATH="/usr/local/Pcmanfm/lib:$LD_LIBRARY_PATH"
Can you confirm that?

If yes, then maybe libstartup-notification cannot be loaded because of another missing lib.

Please type this in a console:

cd /usr/local/Pcmanfm/lib
ldd libstartup-notification-1.so

This should report:
Code: Select all
# ldd libstartup-notification-1.so
        linux-gate.so.1 =>  (0xffffe000)
        libSM.so.6 => /usr/X11R7/lib/libSM.so.6 (0xb7fe0000)
        libICE.so.6 => /usr/X11R7/lib/libICE.so.6 (0xb7fc8000)
        libX11.so.6 => /usr/lib/libX11.so.6 (0xb7ee0000)
        libc.so.6 => /lib/libc.so.6 (0xb7d9e000)
        libxcb-xlib.so.0 => /usr/lib/libxcb-xlib.so.0 (0xb7d9c000)
        libxcb.so.1 => /usr/lib/libxcb.so.1 (0xb7d84000)
        libdl.so.2 => /lib/libdl.so.2 (0xb7d80000)
        /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x80000000)
        libXau.so.6 => /usr/X11R7/lib/libXau.so.6 (0xb7d7d000)
        libXdmcp.so.6 => /usr/X11R7/lib/libXdmcp.so.6 (0xb7d78000)
If you get a "not found" here, please tell me what is not found.

Mark

Here is the output of the above command: (notice there are differences)
cd /usr/local/Pcmanfm/lib
ldd libstartup-notification-1.so

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# ldd libstartup-notification-1.so
        linux-gate.so.1 =>  (0xffffe000)
        libSM.so.6 => /usr/X11R7/lib/libSM.so.6 (0xb7f3e000)
        libICE.so.6 => /usr/X11R7/lib/libICE.so.6 (0xb7f26000)
        libX11.so.6 => /usr/X11R7/lib/libX11.so.6 (0xb7e3e000)
        libc.so.6 => /lib/libc.so.6 (0xb7cfc000)
        libxcb-xlib.so.0 => /usr/lib/libxcb-xlib.so.0 (0xb7cfa000)
        libxcb.so.1 => /usr/lib/libxcb.so.1 (0xb7ce2000)
        libdl.so.2 => /lib/libdl.so.2 (0xb7cde000)
        /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x80000000)
        libXau.so.6 => /usr/X11R7/lib/libXau.so.6 (0xb7cdb000)
        libXdmcp.so.6 => /usr/X11R7/lib/libXdmcp.so.6 (0xb7cd6000)

Sorry to bring this back up. I am trying this again.
I've acquired more knowledge how Puppy Linux works, but apparently not enough.

I started with a fresh install of Puppy 3.01
I tried launching pcmanfm.bin in a console like directed in the first post on page one.
I got "cannot open shared object file" (libfam.so.0 is missing)
I found this lib inside "Gamin-0.1.7.pup" and installed it. Rebooted.
Now I get "cannot open shared object file" (libhal-storage.so.1 is missing)
I'm not sure how to chase down missing deps in Puppy with newly made programs.
I'm used to launching a binary in a console and googling/searching a forum for deps/files.
Usually if installing from a feed, the deps are listed in the "Packages" file and are downloaded, (if the server is up).
I had a problem with pcmanfm after first launching it.
It needed a GTK2 dep and couldn't connect to the feed.
Now it doesn't try this anymore when I launch it.

EDIT:
I tried some stuff in the pcmanfm and hit "update desktop database" It spit out an error, but this time it connected to the server and downloaded:
desktop-file-utils-0.11.pup

Jon

#35 Post by MU » Tue 18 Mar 2008, 02:42

I got "cannot open shared object file" (libfam.so.0 is missing)
Now I get "cannot open shared object file" (libhal-storage.so.1 is missing)

These are in
/usr/local/Pcmanfm/lib

They are included by the startscript pcmanfm.
Also your result for libstartupnotification.so looks ok.
So I'm baffled what still could be wrong, I'm out of idea at moment

Mark

Jon_J · #36 Post by **Jon_J** » Tue 18 Mar 2008, 03:10

It seems to be working.
It launches and it finally downloaded a file it couldn't connect to earlier. I updated my last post.

Is there anyway to force it to open only one window and save its windowsize and position?

Thank you

#37 Post by MU » Tue 18 Mar 2008, 15:19

Is there anyway to force it to open only one window and save its windowsize and position?

Yes, by default the menu-entry opens 2 windows (script: "2pcfmanfm").
To open only one, run "pcmanfm" instead.
It should remember the size and position when you close and start again.

Or click on the home-icon on your desktop, if you allowed to replace rox with pcmanfm.

Pcmanfm on installation will rename rox to rox-real and add a script "rox", that will run pcmanfm or rox depending on the options that are passed.

So if "rox /root" is run (by clicking the home-icon), then pcmanfm is run.
if "rox -pinboard ..." is run, then rox-real is used.

Mark

charnisingh · #38 Post by **charnisingh** » Thu 27 Mar 2008, 14:35

find attached herewith the required lib.

big_bass · #39 Post by **big_bass** » Sat 26 Jul 2008, 03:32

[quote="MU"
Now it is a veeeeeeeeery fine filemanager for me

Mark[/quote]

Mark

me too

I tried compiling this today in the morning and got suck with this error
http://qmail.jms1.net/courier/courier-no-fam.shtml
and then searched the forum for the easy way out

found out that you already did it anyway

saved me a headache

P.S works perfectly for me
and you did a great job with your options in the dot pup script
the script detected I was missing something and downloaded it
excellent !

thanks a lot
big_bass

Eastern Counties · #40 Post by **Eastern Counties** » Mon 28 Jul 2008, 14:04

Is there any reason that pcmanfm will not work in Puppy 4? All that has happened is that my Rox root home desktop icon doesn't open. If I start 2pcmanfm or pcmanfm.bin from a terminal, I get no error messages.
Any ideas?
Thanks
John

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