ok I'm here again running in vesa. the problem I'm having is the xorg wizard works fine but the compiz-fusion wizard changes something. when I did as you said I got xorg working fine and then I chose the manual setup and then chose the xfce without compiz fusion and it started up exactly the same as before, the mouse pointer works fine but the desktop is scrambled. I'm going to try altering the lines you mentioned and see if I can restart x
Scott
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