zigbert wrote:Can anyone try to explain me in easy words what is so extremely good with icewm that it is worth 1.5-2.5 mb. Is it only the upper buttons and gradiented tray as I got explained last time I asked.
No, it is the general ease with which it can be made to fit the user - Macpup is the classic example. That has a strong following as does EZpup (Icewm based updater) and a lot of the derivatives. Those who want a Windows XP lookalike can achieve a very realistic version (WinXP-Royale theme for example).
Bottom line is that around 50% (my guess only) of users install Icewm straight away, or prefer a puplet that uses Icewm.
zigbert wrote:Why not include Songbird, inkscape and k3b. They are all much more sophisticated than the Puppy alternatives.
Now, now! You KNOW we couldn't get along without Pburn for example. OSMO is far better suited to us than Songbird and there just aren't that many of us doing vector graphics.
zigbert wrote:if we need an alternative wm, why not choose blackbox or any other mini solution. Icewm is the big brother, and will never be the alternative. - Jwm will be the logical alternative.
There are a number of mini-solutions that are no better or no worse than JWM - even Fluxbox is a reasonable mini-wm, but probably not for our user base.
zigbert wrote:And then, I don't see the point of putting any work in a new jwm desktop. I should discontinue my desktop work, and put my effort in something that matters. If you find enough arguments for adding icewm, it MUST be the preferred choice.
I have stated many times that JWM is, and will remain, the default desktop for Puppy 4.2, so please don't discontinue your magnificent efforts to beautify that interface. IceWM is being considered as an
included option for those that prefer that interface; that's all.
As for preference, I have no empirical data but my guess is the split in preference is about 50:50, and it would take a lot more than that to sway us toward Icewm as the default. It certainly won't happen in Puppy 4.2; that's a promise.
*Sigh* Now, can we get back to the business of collaborating to produce the BEST Puppy standard release ever? (no offense intended BarryK).
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