Listen Ecomoney what part of what WhoDo said when we started 4.2 did you not get,? he said something like "we are having 2 window manager to ease the transition into Icewm, you and zigbert both get this confused, JWM is on its way out! not new and improved, Its rounded corners, big deal, and to have a transparent desktop that would be unstable and resource stealing crap again. We can put 2 shovels of crap in every release can we? lol
I wasnt part of the 4.2 planning stage, so this is news to me. I always thought jwm was slightly faster than icewm? If jwm is more flexible too (i.e can do transparency if people want it) then my vote would be for that.
Seriously the applications you place on top are too big for the repo,
Then the repo needs redesigning/re-working. They are the most popular open source apps in the world and the repo cant handle them?
basically they are more for your own interest we read what you type all the time,
Yes, I use them too, along with the most of the rest of the world (except Ttuxxx)
Puppy isn't here to serve your clients, it here to serve the general public,
My clients are the "general public", who are yours? Mine like OpenOffice, aMSN and Firefox.
And to kill Icewm for another chat client is stupid,
To have two window managers but only one single niche Instant Messenger client is far Stupider.
don't you see Xchat in the menu??
Yes, but it only handles IRC chat, most of General public use MSN, Yahoo, Facebook, ICQ etc and only sometimes IRC. Pidgin handles them all. Puppy should "have all the applications needed for daily use (by linux newbs)" - Puppy Mission Statement.
oh ya I forgot your clients likes Im with voice,
Yes, Vocally is generally the way people find it natural to communicate, this is why we evolved complex language and a voicebox.
Why do think this is your own company
I dont, Puppy Linux isnt a commercial profit making company, and neither is mine. If it was I would be using Windows, Ive made a LOT more money out of that.
and your (sic) try to run us for your clients needs?
As I said, my clients are the general public/linux newbs. Who are yours again?
man you have gull.
Do you mean "Gall"? If so then yes, lots.
You want us to host like 400MB compressed of software for like 57 applications,
Not necessarily, I want new users of linux to have access to the applications they want and need.
Firefox (2.0.0.20 as its most stable) <-- mozilla no longer supports it. Dead in the water
Who cares if it works?
Openoffice (preferably 3 series) <--- 280MB-/+ lol ya right
Like I say we dont need to host it, we need to give Puppy Linux users easy access to it.
Amsn (0.98 beta is quite stable, and has webcam support) <-- every update doesn't work with the previous version. Stupid application.
Then we stick with a version that does work. Its an application that fulfills a need to new linux users. It should be available easily to them, it would be "stupid" not to.
Skype 2 <--- Get the static bin and install it, No need to host static archives, So tell your clients to download it and run it direct, no compiling needed.
Yeah, you try explaining that to them. They dont need any more reasons to stick with Windows.
GCompris <--- Very large and unstable kids game for your schools, not puppies agenda.
An excellent program used the world over for teaching children literacy, numeracy, cognitive skills etc by people that cannot afford commercial software - so they can hopefully escape poverty. Thats on a lot of peoples agenda....at least those who dont have your personality as a contraceptive.
Next you'll probably want to rename 'Puppy Linux' to 'ecomoney Linux LTD" lol what a FW
TBH, its name doesnt do it justice, but I understand if BarryK wants to call it that for historic reasons. He is a man with very blessed with very unselfish ideals and a wish to create something that will be of value to others than just himself. Ive already
explained why I set up an organisation for my work with Puppy Linux, and just how corporate Im not.. Dont keep trying to make this false point in various places just to forward your own personal agenda. FUD
We aren't here to turn puppy linux in your own little puplet.
Too true, or yours either. Im simply not going to let you turn puppy into something that benefits you and your own niche computing needs. Its
too important a resource for that.
Stop using us for your own personal benefits its so transparent.
I would dearly love that you would use your technical skills for anyones benefit, mine included. Unfortunately your inability to take on board constructive criticism, include other peoples observations, recognise others needs, produce tested packages, work as a team, share and document your work, maintain a level of civility to other prevents you from being any use whatsoever....to anyone least of all yourself.
Considering all of these things, together with your obvious skill at spreading FUD, perhaps you might better serve Open Source by getting a job with Micro$oft?
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