Who's in charge?
Thank you for the confirmation Computer Bob, I thought I was being paranoid for a moment!
Ok, Im an open source "evangelist". I talk about my work on here quite a a bit, others dont...they just PM me. Open source evangelists dont have massive forum post counts....they cant....theyre out all day actually using Puppy with real people, not compiling code. Many of them do more than me, they just dont shout about it.
But to be of more use in the community we need Developers to develop what we see the people need, and thats a full time job too.
And then there is the retired people, who have the time to program for a "hobby". Should we deny them a hobby just because we know that if they made puppy a certain way, it would benefit more people? Its their hobby to customize to suit themselves, why would they? Little wonder they object to my suggestions/"bug"fixes.
I think were forgetting who started this thread and posed the question? Nathan F. Ive been around here long enough to have used Grafpup Linux before. (Heres a Grafpup review getting a perfect 10/10 at linux.com). He's obviously had to give up work on it, because his work has not been ECONOMICALLY SUPPORTED.
Theres actually quite a few talented Devs on here in dire financial circumstances. Whats more, because of their circumstances they can also see the need.
The best way our "evangelists" can support puppy, is to support its most talented Developers, both with the means to continue their work, and the information they need to make puppy popular. Example Here.
Now that would positively reroute puppy's present perilous path towards a hobbyists distro.
If we dont want a hobbyist distro, we should be thinking of ways we can get people like Nathan F a way to make a living out of Puppy. Hes exactly the sort of person we should be helping, and in doing so helping a lot many more non-developers in the process.
Ok, Im an open source "evangelist". I talk about my work on here quite a a bit, others dont...they just PM me. Open source evangelists dont have massive forum post counts....they cant....theyre out all day actually using Puppy with real people, not compiling code. Many of them do more than me, they just dont shout about it.
But to be of more use in the community we need Developers to develop what we see the people need, and thats a full time job too.
And then there is the retired people, who have the time to program for a "hobby". Should we deny them a hobby just because we know that if they made puppy a certain way, it would benefit more people? Its their hobby to customize to suit themselves, why would they? Little wonder they object to my suggestions/"bug"fixes.
I think were forgetting who started this thread and posed the question? Nathan F. Ive been around here long enough to have used Grafpup Linux before. (Heres a Grafpup review getting a perfect 10/10 at linux.com). He's obviously had to give up work on it, because his work has not been ECONOMICALLY SUPPORTED.
Theres actually quite a few talented Devs on here in dire financial circumstances. Whats more, because of their circumstances they can also see the need.
The best way our "evangelists" can support puppy, is to support its most talented Developers, both with the means to continue their work, and the information they need to make puppy popular. Example Here.
Now that would positively reroute puppy's present perilous path towards a hobbyists distro.
If we dont want a hobbyist distro, we should be thinking of ways we can get people like Nathan F a way to make a living out of Puppy. Hes exactly the sort of person we should be helping, and in doing so helping a lot many more non-developers in the process.
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Just popping in to give a collective thank you. Between studying, finals, packing, and moving out, I haven't checked on the forum since Tuesday. I was a bit worried about what I'd find tonight.
I haven't read some of the other threads yet and it's getting pretty late, so I'll have to finish later. But I'm glad to see that we've mostly settled down now, other than the stragglers who didn't get their say in earlier...
Re: Puppy 5 and councils: sounds interesting. I'll have to read more tomorrow so I know what's going on, but it sounds like WhoDo has the right idea.
G'night.
I haven't read some of the other threads yet and it's getting pretty late, so I'll have to finish later. But I'm glad to see that we've mostly settled down now, other than the stragglers who didn't get their say in earlier...
Re: Puppy 5 and councils: sounds interesting. I'll have to read more tomorrow so I know what's going on, but it sounds like WhoDo has the right idea.
G'night.
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"i am at #41 and have never posted a single thing of consequence "
Yeah! but your looks are better than mine.
" I was a bit worried about what I'd find tonight."
Spoilsport...I was just about to post.
" This kind of beauty contest is quite despicable."
No arguments there.
And I also want to up my ranking. That is a W.
Chris.
Yeah! but your looks are better than mine.
" I was a bit worried about what I'd find tonight."
Spoilsport...I was just about to post.
" This kind of beauty contest is quite despicable."
No arguments there.
And I also want to up my ranking. That is a W.
Chris.
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I myself am currently at #97. After doing a quick-ish search I found that we have 4974 members spread over 265 pages who have yet to make their first post. That's a lot of members in the silent ranks. I hope we haven't scared them all away.
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The learning curve may be steep but there is a light at the end of the tunnel.
You just have to pass the occasional oncoming train to get there.
The learning curve may be steep but there is a light at the end of the tunnel.
You just have to pass the occasional oncoming train to get there.
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@sage why rate me so high. Should I not be #2 at best to your personal #1?
Actually I'm surprised that I am so high with less that 450 posts.
Actually I'm surprised that I am so high with less that 450 posts.
Linux = Learning through doing :shock: :? :D
The learning curve may be steep but there is a light at the end of the tunnel.
You just have to pass the occasional oncoming train to get there.
The learning curve may be steep but there is a light at the end of the tunnel.
You just have to pass the occasional oncoming train to get there.
Who's on second
After months being away from Puppy and this cesspool, it's amazing to see the same silly pissing matches taking place.
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Re: Who's on second
Back so soon????, awwwww, actually I did miss reading your very insightful comments , lol.alienjeff wrote:After months being away from Puppy and this cesspool, it's amazing to see the same silly pissing matches taking place.
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Good to have you back AJ, Ive missed your inimitable style, and your willingness to raise issues that others dare not
Good to have you back AJ, Ive missed your inimitable style, and your willingness to raise issues that others dare not
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Re: Who's on second
first klhrevolutionist, now thisalienjeff wrote:After months being away from Puppy and this cesspool, it's amazing to see the same silly pissing matches taking place.
where's shroomy bee?
Maybe AJ should be in charge, and shroomy_bee can be his cheif advisor.
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Hi AJ
Nice of you to drop in and inspire some lunatic comments
Knew you couldn't stay away from here for long, lunacy must attract you....
or visa versa
Aitch
Nice of you to drop in and inspire some lunatic comments
Knew you couldn't stay away from here for long, lunacy must attract you....
or visa versa
Aitch
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The state of things
I'm happy with my modified (pets added, wine, new wallpaper) 4.1.2.
Looking forward to seeing what is possible for Puppy. It is unique and wonderful to use.
Perhaps Barry can step in - on a very temporary basis of course?
Unified in our support of Open Source!!
Looking forward to seeing what is possible for Puppy. It is unique and wonderful to use.
Perhaps Barry can step in - on a very temporary basis of course?
Unified in our support of Open Source!!
In responding to the comment of all the watchers I will post.
Gentlemen and bloggers.
Many PC users I know have been helped immeasurably by having Puppy available. Most of them are not mean nor rich but in today's world the communication by PC is a growing expectation..
The relative simplicity of Puppy.has helped a lot of lives to include internet enrichment of their participation.
Barry has a place of benefactor as have many others who have supported the project in multifarious ways.
A friend some 50 years ago gave me a hand with a difficult problem. As I offered repayment that was rejected, simple advise was given. Go and help someone else who need it and in that way we all help each other.
Sharp criticism and demands are best ignored and deserve no more than that.
There are many great people on this forum who are well respected.
My thanks to them in rising to the challenge of Puppy development.
Gentlemen and bloggers.
Many PC users I know have been helped immeasurably by having Puppy available. Most of them are not mean nor rich but in today's world the communication by PC is a growing expectation..
The relative simplicity of Puppy.has helped a lot of lives to include internet enrichment of their participation.
Barry has a place of benefactor as have many others who have supported the project in multifarious ways.
A friend some 50 years ago gave me a hand with a difficult problem. As I offered repayment that was rejected, simple advise was given. Go and help someone else who need it and in that way we all help each other.
Sharp criticism and demands are best ignored and deserve no more than that.
There are many great people on this forum who are well respected.
My thanks to them in rising to the challenge of Puppy development.