puppy2alpha available for testing

[BarryK]

See news for Feb 13:
http://www.puppylinux.com/news.htm

[GuestToo]

not sure how to configure Grub for a frugal install

title = Puppy20
rootnoverify (hd0,0)
kernel /vmlinuz root=/dev/ram0 PMEDIA=idehd
initrd /initrd.gz

seems to work, and puts a pup_003.sfs on hda1, which is where i want it

xorg won't start

xvesa starts at 640x480 ... rox won't run ... xvesa wizard won't run

[GuestToo]

puts a pup_003.sfs on hda1

that's the "usr_cram.fs" file, not the "pup001" file, of course ... i thought it was the "pup001" equivalent, at first glance

[Guest]

See news for Feb 13:
http://www.puppylinux.com/news.htm

Put it in the other site please.(I don't have access thats sites.)

[Ted Alpha2 Dog]

puptrix mirror of Alpha Puppy2:
http://www.puptrix.org/alpha/puppy2alpha-seamonkey.iso
md5sum:

2cd84372b892fa230395413c1cca9ca7 puppy2alpha-seamonkey.iso

[wilcal]

I suggest you start a new Topic in the Advanced Topics sections
for comments on Puppy2. Thanks

[Ted Dog]

Here is a mini-script for full saveback of DVD. It will saveback ALL files allows XORG to reappear, as well as changed background and ROX pin settings.

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rm /initrd/pup_rw/etc/.XLOADED
rm /initrd/pup_rw/*.sfs
growisofs -M /dev/dvd -D -J -R -quiet -new-dir-mode 0755 -graft-points `date "+%Y-%m-%d-%H-%M"`=/initrd/pup_rw/

will work in new Alpha Puppy2 (faster download from puptrix)
Ted

[BarryK]

not sure how to configure Grub for a frugal install

title = Puppy20
rootnoverify (hd0,0)
kernel /vmlinuz root=/dev/ram0 PMEDIA=idehd
initrd /initrd.gz

seems to work, and puts a pup_003.sfs on hda1, which is where i want it

xorg won't start

xvesa starts at 640x480 ... rox won't run ... xvesa wizard won't run

G2, yes, pup_003.sfs is the Puppy filesystem approx equiv usr_cram.fs, initrd.gz the initial ramdisk.
The first time it is booted, should come up in PUPMODE 5, look
at /etc/rc.d/PUPMODE, running totally in ram. Remove any
pup_save.3fs created so far, boot the CD, go straight to Xvesa
-- does the Xvesa Wizard and Rox work then?

[BarryK]

Here is a mini-script for full saveback of DVD. It will saveback ALL files allows XORG to reappear, as well as changed background and ROX pin settings.

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rm /initrd/pup_rw/etc/.XLOADED
rm /initrd/pup_rw/*.sfs
growisofs -M /dev/dvd -D -J -R -quiet -new-dir-mode 0755 -graft-points `date "+%Y-%m-%d-%H-%M"`=/initrd/pup_rw/

will work in new Alpha Puppy2 (faster download from puptrix)
Ted

Ted Dog, thanksfor that, such a simple solution!
So, do you have the multisession puppy2alpha up and running ok?

[justauser]

I opened the ISO and extracted the files needed, placed them on my flash drive, editied my syslinux.cfg and here I am, using Alpha 2 to enter this post! Still dislike the amount of title it takes to copy the sfs to memroy, but..

[dvw86]

I can't get the Superfloppy mode to work from the Universal Installer. I tried it on a CF card plugged into a USB card reader as well as the same CF card plugged into a CF to IDE adaptor. Once the CF card is formated as ext3 it tries to copy the files off the CD to the card, but I get this error:

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ABSOLUTE FINAL SANITY CHECK!
You are about to install Puppy to /dev/, with boot parameter
PMEDIA=. The files vmlinuz, initrd.gz, pup_xxx.sfs, extlinux.conf
will be written to /dev/ and Extlinux will be used to make it bootable.

Press ENTER key to continue, CTRL-C to abort: 
mount: Mounting /dev on /mnt/data failed: Block device required
Making  bootable...
extlinux: cannot find device for path /mnt/data
Copying vmlinuz...
cp: cannot stat `/vmlinuz': No such file or directory
Creating extlinux.conf...
Copying initrd.gz...
cp: cannot stat `/initrd.gz': No such file or directory
Copying .sfs files...
umount: /mnt/data: Invalid argument
Finished, press ENTER key to continue: 

When I go to /mnt/data the card is mounted and the files extlinux.conf and pup_003.sfs are there, but the others are not.

[Ted head-swimming Dig]

I have the mini script as my version of save to DVD with a barrowed CD with arrow icon from the earlier save to DVD. I have yet to hack the reboot script.
The CD version only works for one session then contines to spit out the CD-R ewfusing to continue. My head is swimming looking over CDRTOOLS source code and documentations. Boy is he hot to point the finger at the linux kernel developers for all the problems.
Ted Dog

[Lobster]

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ABSOLUTE FINAL SANITY CHECK!
You are about to install Puppy to /dev/, with boot parameter
PMEDIA=. The files vmlinuz, initrd.gz, pup_xxx.sfs, extlinux.conf
will be written to /dev/ and Extlinux will be used to make it bootable.

Press ENTER key to continue, CTRL-C to abort: 
mount: Mounting /dev on /mnt/data failed: Block device required
Making  bootable...
extlinux: cannot find device for path /mnt/data
Copying vmlinuz...
cp: cannot stat `/vmlinuz': No such file or directory
Creating extlinux.conf...
Copying initrd.gz...
cp: cannot stat `/initrd.gz': No such file or directory
Copying .sfs files...
umount: /mnt/data: Invalid argument
Finished, press ENTER key to continue: 

Thanks for posting this I got the same message or similar when using the Universal Installer to install to USB keydrve

Another test session yesterday
I found Seamonkey very slow and sometimes it would refuse to go to a URL on the first attempt - no idea why

We need more testers.
I would limit the time you spend testing because Puppy2 is deceptive, the JWM is great looking - better somehow. Seamonkey is identical (practically - added tools) to Mozilla and so on - but this is an Alpha - not even Beta - so it is not yet ready for day to day use. I set up the email account In Mozilla - set up my favoor.com bookmarks and so on . . .

Testing only. One great success is someone reportedthat ALSA got their sound card working - good news.

Get out your testing caps - there will be competition soon for the best headgear . . .

[Guest]

The alpha release boots and runs about as expected here. No serious testing done as yet here. The "Contacts" icon appears broken (gaby is missing?).

MUT: Jesse's email address is in the comments at the top of /usr/lib/mut/mut.tcl

Mail client: I prefer Seamonkey's Mail/News client to Sylpheed, but that's a personal preference born more of familiarity than anything else. I'm running at 1024x768 here, not sure what the issues at 800x600 would be, or how fixable they are.

Mozilla: all the usual command line options (such as -mail) are broken when Mozilla is already open:

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sh-3.00# mozilla -mail
Error: Failed to send command: 509 internal error

However, the remote command capability still works, so if you know enough to do

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# /usr/lib/mozilla/mozilla-bin -remote "xfeDoCommand(openInbox)"

all is well. Very strange. Is there a scripting bug somewhere causing this? The code in /usr/local/bin/mozilla looks a bit odd to me. The /usr/local/bin/mozmail script seems to just give up rather than do the right thing when a mozilla session is open, too. Why not make it work as the user would expect? Maybe more like this:

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#!/bin/sh
#Puppy does not want more than one instance of Moz running.

if /usr/lib/mozilla/mozilla-bin -remote "ping()"
then
 exec /usr/lib/mozilla/mozilla-bin -remote "xfeDoCommand(openInbox)"
else
 exec /usr/lib/mozilla/mozilla-bin -mail $@
fi

A similar issue apparently exists in 1.0.7 also, but because Sylpheed exists there, I'd not noticed it. See http://www.mozilla.org/unix/remote.html for a little documentation.

Jonathan

[jmarsden]

Argh, that'll teach me to use the Alpha for posting to the forums... the previous Guest was me. Just in case that wasn't already obvious!

Jonathan

[BarryK]

I can't get the Superfloppy mode to work from the Universal Installer. I tried it on a CF card plugged into a USB card reader as well as the same CF card plugged into a CF to IDE adaptor. Once the CF card is formated as ext3 it tries to copy the files off the CD to the card, but I get this error:

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ABSOLUTE FINAL SANITY CHECK!
You are about to install Puppy to /dev/, with boot parameter
PMEDIA=. The files vmlinuz, initrd.gz, pup_xxx.sfs, extlinux.conf
will be written to /dev/ and Extlinux will be used to make it bootable.

Press ENTER key to continue, CTRL-C to abort: 
mount: Mounting /dev on /mnt/data failed: Block device required
Making  bootable...
extlinux: cannot find device for path /mnt/data
Copying vmlinuz...
cp: cannot stat `/vmlinuz': No such file or directory
Creating extlinux.conf...
Copying initrd.gz...
cp: cannot stat `/initrd.gz': No such file or directory
Copying .sfs files...
umount: /mnt/data: Invalid argument
Finished, press ENTER key to continue: 

When I go to /mnt/data the card is mounted and the files extlinux.conf and pup_003.sfs are there, but the others are not.

Yes, the final sanity check is showing that the situation is totally screwed up.
You are trying to install to /dev/, and PMEDIA=, meaning there is no destination device and no value for PMEDIA.
Okay, must be a script bug.

[saintlangton]

Just tried 2alpha here's a few more issues (mostly minor)

Booting from CD works ok. But when I copied pup_003.sfs to hda1 it didn't seem to be picked up at the next boot - the copying to ram seemed to take just as long.

Did a type 2 install using the universal installer - only prob so far is that reboot and poweroff both leave at prompt even when already at prompt. Ctrl-alt-delete does nothing when in X, At the prompt gives some script output but then leaves back at prompt. Had to do a hard reboot.
(The universal installer is nice would be even slicker if it copied the settings - mouse/keyboard/xorg/alsa from what was given at bootup)

Doesn't mount the old user_devx.sfs and when I copied the perl files from there to try and get my ndiswrapper wireless working it just didn't either on livecd or type 2 install. In fact it hung at 'modprobe ndiswrapper' on the hd install and puppy froze solid had to hard reboot.

Cosmetic issues:
There's a graphical glitch around the JWM start button. (a thin line pointing upward about 10 pixels) At 640X480 resolution which is the default the play + dialup & pupzip+trash icons overlap. It would be nice if the wallpaper was set to exactfit instead of fullscreen. Oh and swipe the nice icons from empty crust - I'm sure pizzagood won't mind!

Also when booting the hd install the paw logo that appears seems corrupted - black bits all over it. tried at framebuffer 640x480 and 800x600.

[vern72023]

I tried to use the new puppy on a couple of usb drives formatted as fat32 using syslinux and while it did pick up the vmlinuz and initrd.gz it then failed to find and load the pup003.sfs and tried to abort but just hung
one of the messages was that it was trying to load in mode 1 which struck me as odd
Is it a firm requirement that the usb drive be formatted as a "superfloppy" with ext2/3 because if that is the case then that is a showstopper as far as my needs are concerned
maybe I could try partitioning the one of the usb's but i dont really want to do that

[wilcal]

I spent a little time last night with Puppy2

Test Platform
-------------
Intel, P4 530J 3.0 GHz, 800MHz FSB, 1MB L2, LGA 775
GigaByte GA-8I915G Pro" i915G
Marvel Yukon 88E8001 Gigabit LAN
Intel High Def Audio, Azalia (C-Media 9880)
Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 900 (on Intel 915)
Kingston 1G(512MBx2) DDR400 PC-3200
Maxtor DiamondMax 10 6B080M0 80GB 200 RPM 8MB Cache SATA
KingWin HD Rack/Tray subsystem
Sony CD/DVD-RW DW-D26A

Pup2 Booted and ran just fine. Found the difficult
Marvel Yukon LAN just fine. Also handled the Intel Audio.
Well done.

Old Laptop Platform
-------------------
Dell Insperon 7500
Model PPI
Intel, Celeron 466Mhz
440BX Chipset
64MB DRAM
6.5GB HD
20VDC, 3.5A PS
Belkin Wireless G PCMCIA F5D7010, BCMWL5.INF XP2K Driver

Pup2 booted to a working desktop. Attempted ndiswrapper
install of BCMWL5.INF XP driver. At

modprobe ndiswrapper

command system completely froze. Will play a little more
with that in the next days. Do note that Pup1 with
ndiswrapper/BCMWLS.INF/modprobe works just fine.

[Yaverot]

Okay, I was at a friend's house last night, and took advantage of thier DSL line to grab 107 and the puppy2alpha isos.

so I've tested a little with puppy2 on my machines:
MSI: does not detect the soundcard. xorg indicates that my vidcard does not support any resolution at any refreshrate (so I was stuck in an infinite loop in trying to chose which unsupported resolution to use.), the old xwhatever that puppy 1 uses, boots into what looks like EGA mode and all config scripts fail within x due to insufficient color depth. Had to use reset button on the case to stop puppy.

CTX: ALSA detects the ESS1xxx sound card, but it doesn't sound when it indicates its going to make the test sound. xorg complained about needing tweaking ontop of its auto detect settings or something like that, so I feel back to the puppy1 xwhatever, which did load, but for some reason killed the mouse after setting the resolution. Also had to use the reset button to get out, although now that I think of it ctrl-alt-backspace would've given me the prompt back. So if I'd been thinking I probably could have shut it down cleanly, although not ideally.

eMachines: Errors very early in the boot process, and gets into an infinate loop that keeps displaying the same 5 times of text, then numbers in brackets [].

All these were booted off of the same CD-R, which was burnt using the iso2cd in puppy 106.

[edit:]
107's xorg does work on the MSI. Hopefully puppy2 and/or 198 will take care of all that icon clutter on the desktop.