Quirky 003 feedback

[tempestuous]

http://www.nvidia.com/object/unix.html
It's an automated installer which compiles a DRM kernel module for your particular kernel, then extracts binary Xorg files into the correct locations.
nVIDIA has never released the source code for the actual Xorg driver components.

[ttuuxxx]

Hi Barry I booted up 2.14X on the same pc and it finds the correct driver first go, here is the xorg config

#everything past here is auto-generated by Puppy's Xorg Wizard...


Section "ServerLayout"
Identifier "X.org Configured"
Screen 0 "Screen0" 0 0
InputDevice "Mouse0" "CorePointer"
InputDevice "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Keyboard0"
Driver "kbd"
Option "XkbRules" "xorg"
Option "XkbModel" "pc102"
Option "XkbLayout" "us" #xkeymap0
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Mouse0"
Driver "mouse"
Option "Protocol" "IMPS/2" #mouse0protocol
Option "Device" "/dev/mouse"
#Option "Emulate3Buttons"
#Option "Emulate3Timeout" "50"
Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" #scrollwheel
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
Identifier "Monitor0"
VendorName "Monitor Vendor"
ModelName "Monitor Model"
HorizSync 31.5-48.5
VertRefresh 40-70
#UseModes "Modes0" #monitor0usemodes
Option "PreferredMode" "1024x768"
EndSection

Section "Modes"
Identifier "Modes0"
#modes0modeline0
EndSection

Section "Device"
### Available Driver options are:-
### Values: <i>: integer, <f>: float, <bool>: "True"/"False",
### <string>: "String", <freq>: "<f> Hz/kHz/MHz"
### [arg]: arg optional
#Option "ShadowFB" # [<bool>]
#Option "DefaultRefresh" # [<bool>]
#Option "ModeSetClearScreen" # [<bool>]
Identifier "Card0"
Driver "vesa" #card0driver
VendorName "nVidia Corporation"
BoardName "Unknown Board"
BusID "PCI:2:0:0"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
Identifier "Screen0"
Device "Card0"
Monitor "Monitor0"
DefaultDepth 24
Subsection "Display"
Depth 24
Modes "1024x768"
EndSubsection
EndSection


Section "Module"
Load "extmod"
EndSection

#PuppyHardwareProfile=NVIDIA
ttuuxxx

[ttuuxxx]

I compared the 2 of them and only one line difference
2.14X VendorName "nVidia Corporation"
Quirky3 VendorName "Unknown Vendor"
they both use vesa, also if I drop down to 16bit color on Quirky, the black is gone, but the icons aren't very smooth looking.
ttuuxxx

[aarf]

tailored for quirky3 /root/.jwmrc-tray-left

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<JWM>
  <Tray autohide="true" border="0" valign="center"  halign="left" width="36" layout="vertical">
  <TrayButton popup="User" icon="/usr/local/lib/X11/mini-icons/dir_o.xpm">exec:rox /mnt/sda2/home/user/</TrayButton>
  <TrayButton popup="Puppy" icon="/usr/local/lib/X11/mini-icons/mini.blah.xpm">exec:rox /mnt/sda2/home/puppy/</TrayButton>
  <TrayButton popup="Opera" icon="/mnt/home/opera10.10/Opera-10.10-portable-customized/usr/share/icons/hicolor/32x32/apps/opera.png">exec:rox /mnt/home/opera10.10/Opera-10.10-portable-customized/</TrayButton>
  <TrayButton popup="seamonkey" icon="/usr/local/lib/X11/mini-icons/seamonkey16.xpm">exec:seamonkey</TrayButton>
 <TrayButton popup="Take Screenshot" icon="/usr/local/lib/X11/mini-icons/mini-camera.xpm">exec:mtpaintsnapshot.sh</TrayButton>
  
  <TrayButton popup="Rxvt - terminal emulator" icon="/usr/local/lib/X11/pixmaps/console48.png">exec:rxvt</TrayButton>
  <TrayButton popup="Nico - text editor" icon="/usr/share/midi-icons/edit24.png">exec:nicoedit</TrayButton>
  <TrayButton popup="Pfind - file finder" icon="/usr/local/lib/X11/mini-icons/mini-zoom.xpm">exec:pfind</TrayButton>
  <TrayButton popup="Pwireless - wireless scanner" icon="/usr/local/lib/X11/mini-icons/Pwireless.png">exec:Pwireless</TrayButton>
  <TrayButton popup="Calculator" icon="/usr/local/lib/X11/mini-icons/mini-calc.xpm">exec:ycalc</TrayButton>
   <TrayButton popup="Reboot" icon="/usr/local/lib/X11/mini-icons/prompt16.xpm">exec:wmreboot</TrayButton>
 
   <TrayButton popup="Power OFF computer" icon="/usr/local/lib/X11/themes/Smooth-Color/shutdown24.png">exec:/usr/bin/wmpoweroff</TrayButton>
</Tray>
</JWM>

[ckteo172]

Barry,

I'm having slow screen redraw / jerky video playback after using xrandr to rotate the screen by 90 degree on a Intel 945GM Platform. I'm using VLC 0.9.2 to do the video playback.

Any idea what can be done to improve the situation?

Attached is the xorg log file.

Thanks

I have no idea. Looking at your xorg log file, I see that XvMC is enabled. That's strange, as I left out those libraries. On my laptop, the xorg log file reports that XvMC is disabled.
Is your VLC package providing files that look like "libI810XvMC*"? If so, they are probably the wrong versions for his x server and may be causing problems. ...a long shot but that's the only thing I can think of.

I forced enable the XvMc by adding Option "XvMc" "True" in the xorg.conf. Actually, I have the problem even without enabling XvMc so I thought of enabling it to see got any improvement but it's the same. I believe the issue either with how the xorg server / intel driver handle rotation. With DRI enable it's better but still not ideal.

The Quirky 003 didn't have glxgears or any glx utility. How can I get those utility in? And also, if I plan to upgrade the Xserver, Mesa Driver and Intel-Video driver to the latest version, how difficult will it be?

[bigpup]

Barry;

I thought Quirky was about trying new things and getting away from the norm. You said, that Quirky 03 was about doing multimedia a new way, with new and different programs. Ok, but should you make sure that the basic Xorg video driver, setup, and settings are rock solid, before stepping out of the box?

I see alot of posts that are all about video driver and setup problems.
Hard to determine multimedia problems with new programs when the basic setup has problems.

Just my thoughts.

Quirky is great for trying new stuff, so lets get quirky!

[8-bit]

You have to remember that Barry stated that Quirky was an experimental OS and one should not rely on it for everyday use.
It was designed to venture into new areas and try new things and is not a release version.
It is experimental.

[Leon]

Icons are normal here on Quirky 003.

Interesting icon set!

Any chance to get a copy?

[James C]

The icons are HaikuPup by WhoDo and they are available from this post
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 156#362156

[aarf]

try this free host for under 100MB files

http://www.esnips.com/doc/bf80ec12-c090 ... quirky-003

free to download and just an email to join and host.
currently clocking 115kb download of quirky.

edit:my first (and only) test failed md5 though

[rameshiyer]

I have installed the Quirky 003 in my PC (Full Hard Disk). While rebooting after installation, it is asking keyboard layout (US). However, I regret to inform you that I am not able to Enter or accepting my keystroke. In Quiry002, there is not such problem. It accepts straight away my keyboard stroke. Due to this problem, I am not able to boot my PC as well as Quirky 003. I am looking forward your help in this regard

[Leon]

The icons are HaikuPup by WhoDo and they are available from this post
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 156#362156

Thank you for the information.

[01micko]

Hi,

I have the same issue as ttuuxxxx with the black backgrounds of menu item icons and the icons in in windows ( the top-left corner icon in the title bar). I am using 24 bit colour on a radeon 9200 pro, "radeon" driver.

Also my wireless would not connect at all with the network wizard so I installed Pwireless2 and no problem.

In the network wizard, my network was detected, I typed in my wep key and then I knew it wouldn't work because the test was too slow. It showed at the top "Unable to find network" (er, you know the message).

PW2, I restarted X and it all went like clockwork.

Cheers

[shinobar]

Hi all!

I upgraded Quickset-Quirky with Grub4Dos bootup menu.
It automatically starts up the desktop with 800x600 screen size, Universal timezone, us-English keyboards.
You can change the first setup with one window.
The network connection is also automatic in case an eth0 interface is found and DHCP is available.

It is made from Quirky-003, applied an integrated kit named firstsetup-0.3.pet.
How i did, you can see on the document, README file.

Download quickset-quirky-003.iso from here.

[Lobster]

There is a proprietary Nvidia driver we could use, isn't there?

It says some support is available in the kernel
http://www.nvidia.com/object/unix.html

It would seem that Nvidia and ATI are the main cards being used
and SIS is often built in

I do know my in built card is troublesome and only one pet worked
with 4.12 to make use of acceleration.
However the card does work with Linux because the Ubuntu
on the hard drive has the 3D acceleration activated

[aarf]

Hi all!

I upgraded Quickset-Quirky with Grub4Dos bootup menu.
It automatically starts up the desktop with 800x600 screen size, Universal timezone, us-English keyboards.
You can change the first setup with one window.
The network connection is also automatic in case an eth0 interface is found and DHCP is available.

It is made from Quirky-003, applied an integrated kit named firstsetup-0.3.pet.
How i did, you can see on the document, README file.

Download quickset-quirky-003.iso from here.

looks good shinobar will give puppy an even more polished look.

[Terryphi]

The new multimedia set up in Quirky 003 fails to play streaming video at news.bbc.co.uk ( or any other of my favourite sites.) I have disabled /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/libswfdecmozilla.so and gone back to using Adobe Flash.

[ckteo172]

I announced Quirky 003 here:
http://bkhome.org/blog/?viewDetailed=01312

003 has a pretty radical architecture for multimedia. See blog posts:
Mozplugger: http://bkhome.org/blog/?viewDetailed=01317
Swfdec: http://bkhome.org/blog/?viewDetailed=01311
Mozplugger: http://bkhome.org/blog/?viewDetailed=01310
Pmusic: http://bkhome.org/blog/?viewDetailed=01309
Ffmpeg: http://bkhome.org/blog/?viewDetailed=01307
Ogle: http://bkhome.org/blog/?viewDetailed=01305
Fundamentals: http://bkhome.org/blog/?viewDetailed=01304
Swfdec: http://bkhome.org/blog/?viewDetailed=01299
Swfdec: http://bkhome.org/blog/?viewDetailed=01298

Anyone wanting to pitch in an help test and improve this new architecture, you're welcome!

I have started this thread for any feedback related to Quirky 003.

Hi Barry,

What's the MESA version that you included in quirky003?

I'm trying to compile the latest intel video driver but I'm getting gl.h file not found.

[BarryK]

Quirky is cutdown, no MESA. The complete collection of binary packages compiled in T2 can be found here:

http://bkhome.org/binaries/t2/8.0rc/

I think that the Puppy Package Manager can install them, and I think that the above URL is registered with PPM, but I haven't tested installing any of them with PPM.

But, you can download any of them and install it.

EDIT:
Oh yeah, PPM does have that T2 binary repo. I entered "mesa" in the search box, and it found the package. Didn't actually try to install it, but guess it will do so...

[bigpup]

Barry,

Have you seen this distro?

SliTaz GNU/Linux


I saw this on DistroWatch and tried it out. Very small distro.
Looks a lot like what you are going for with Quirky.
This might give you some ideas to try.

SliTaz
http://www.slitaz.org/