Classic Pup 2.14X -- Updated 2 series
- ttuuxxx
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This is where we are at
Q: what shall I write in the grub4dos
Q:"But what am I supposed to write in a menu.lst
even if you have not somebody else may have
and does the wmlinux and initrd need to be in root?
or can they me in a subdirectory. Do I have to do a pmedia something.
It tried to boot but got into kernel panic at Usage init. "
ttuuxxx
Q: what shall I write in the grub4dos
Q:"But what am I supposed to write in a menu.lst
even if you have not somebody else may have
and does the wmlinux and initrd need to be in root?
or can they me in a subdirectory. Do I have to do a pmedia something.
It tried to boot but got into kernel panic at Usage init. "
ttuuxxx
http://audio.online-convert.com/ <-- excellent site
http://samples.mplayerhq.hu/A-codecs/ <-- Codec Test Files
http://html5games.com/ <-- excellent HTML5 games :)
http://samples.mplayerhq.hu/A-codecs/ <-- Codec Test Files
http://html5games.com/ <-- excellent HTML5 games :)
- ttuuxxx
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ok here's a few pages on it, I never had boot issues, so sometimes its better to look at others examples
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=35003
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=16437
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 0b3b19a9bc
title Puppy
root (hd0,0)
kernel /vmlinuz root=/dev/ram0 PMEDIA=idehd
initrd /initrd.gz
also this is one grub list I fund on hdd
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=35003
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=16437
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 0b3b19a9bc
title Puppy
root (hd0,0)
kernel /vmlinuz root=/dev/ram0 PMEDIA=idehd
initrd /initrd.gz
also this is one grub list I fund on hdd
Code: Select all
# GRUB configuration file '/boot/grub/menu.lst'.
# generated by 'grubconfig'. Fri Jan 9 01:12:44 2009
#
# The backup copy of the MBR for drive '/dev/sdb2' is
# here '/boot/grub/mbr.sdb.16507'. You can restore it like this.
# dd if=/boot/grub/mbr.sdb.16507 of=/dev/sdb2 bs=512 count=1
#
# Start GRUB global section
#timeout 30
color light-gray/blue black/light-gray
# End GRUB global section
# Linux bootable partition config begins
title Linux (on /dev/sda1)
root (hd0,0)
kernel /boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/sda1 ro vga=normal
# Linux bootable partition config ends
# Linux bootable partition config begins
title Linux (on /dev/sdb1)
root (hd1,0)
kernel /boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/sdb1 ro vga=normal
# Linux bootable partition config ends
# Linux bootable partition config begins
title Linux (on /dev/sdb2)
root (hd1,1)
kernel /boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/sdb2 ro vga=normal
# Linux bootable partition config ends
# Linux bootable partition config begins
title Linux (on /dev/sdb3)
root (hd1,2)
kernel /boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/sdb3 ro vga=normal
# Linux bootable partition config ends
# Linux bootable partition config begins
title = Puppy 214R on sda2
root (hd1,1)
kernel /boot/puppy214R/vmlinuz root=/dev/sda2 ro vga=normal
# Linux bootable partition config ends
# Other bootable partition config begins
title Windows (on /dev/sdc1)
map (hd0) (hd2)
map (hd2) (hd0)
rootnoverify (hd2,0)
makeactive
chainloader +1
# Other bootable partition config ends
title Install GRUB to floppy disk (on /dev/fd0)
pause Insert a formatted floppy disk and press enter.
root (hd1,1)
setup (fd0)
pause Press enter to continue.
title Install GRUB to Linux partition (on /dev/sdb2)
root (hd1,1)
setup (hd1,1)
pause Press enter to continue.
title - For help press 'c', then type: 'help'
root (hd0)
title - For usage examples, type: 'cat /boot/grub/usage.txt'
root (hd0)
http://audio.online-convert.com/ <-- excellent site
http://samples.mplayerhq.hu/A-codecs/ <-- Codec Test Files
http://html5games.com/ <-- excellent HTML5 games :)
http://samples.mplayerhq.hu/A-codecs/ <-- Codec Test Files
http://html5games.com/ <-- excellent HTML5 games :)
Hi again,
testing your 214X
the easiest menu.lst text worked right away. I guess I test the other text suggestion later also just in case.
Unsure about the save file thing. But now on to testing if I can do things with it.
Ok FF works obviously cause I am in 214X now. Looks great indeed.
I get back within some 10 to 20 minutes and report what did work or not.
Streaming video not working
totally failed to get sound working.
a good thing is that it actually mounts my usb flash memory but it starts the DVD too each time it look for usb.
Looking at .flv video clips failed.
Looking at .mp4 video clips failed
Looking at .jpg pics works
Here is my menu.lst text
title Puppy214X
root (hd0,0)
kernel /vmlinuz root=/dev/ram0 PMEDIA=satahd
initrd /initrd.gz
the one above works I am in that one now.
what is it about 214X that made you think me would like it better than Stardust and the other pup431?
Yes it is true that it takes very small memory. I give me 2.1GB free. That is amazing indeed but it does not do what I expect of it. And it has the old thing me never understood. Ho wto set run time actions. i struggled with that for months 2008 and nver grooked it. So me too stupide for 214X
Edit,
I try to do as you suggest. I have added the acpi=force and if that fail I go into xcine and do the advanced setting then. I'll be back.
Edit
Nope the acpi=force was no good advice and the other thing was too difficult for me.
I ended up with 4mb free memory instead of 2.1 gb free mem.
so something went very wrong. I try again following your advice with the advanced but no acpi thing.
If that doesn't work then I give up for now. when you have it as out of the box as NOP or Dpup or Stardust or pup431JPQS then I give you a new chance. Too steep learning curve for your 214X
testing your 214X
the easiest menu.lst text worked right away. I guess I test the other text suggestion later also just in case.
Unsure about the save file thing. But now on to testing if I can do things with it.
Ok FF works obviously cause I am in 214X now. Looks great indeed.
I get back within some 10 to 20 minutes and report what did work or not.
Streaming video not working
totally failed to get sound working.
a good thing is that it actually mounts my usb flash memory but it starts the DVD too each time it look for usb.
Looking at .flv video clips failed.
Looking at .mp4 video clips failed
Looking at .jpg pics works
Here is my menu.lst text
title Puppy214X
root (hd0,0)
kernel /vmlinuz root=/dev/ram0 PMEDIA=satahd
initrd /initrd.gz
the one above works I am in that one now.
what is it about 214X that made you think me would like it better than Stardust and the other pup431?
Yes it is true that it takes very small memory. I give me 2.1GB free. That is amazing indeed but it does not do what I expect of it. And it has the old thing me never understood. Ho wto set run time actions. i struggled with that for months 2008 and nver grooked it. So me too stupide for 214X
Edit,
I try to do as you suggest. I have added the acpi=force and if that fail I go into xcine and do the advanced setting then. I'll be back.
Edit
Nope the acpi=force was no good advice and the other thing was too difficult for me.
I ended up with 4mb free memory instead of 2.1 gb free mem.
so something went very wrong. I try again following your advice with the advanced but no acpi thing.
If that doesn't work then I give up for now. when you have it as out of the box as NOP or Dpup or Stardust or pup431JPQS then I give you a new chance. Too steep learning curve for your 214X
Last edited by nooby on Sat 20 Feb 2010, 19:50, edited 2 times in total.
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not an ideal solution though
not an ideal solution though
- ttuuxxx
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hmm sound and video now, thats a big can of worms, lol usually it works fine for most, but there are ways
like one I found
changing gxine's default video driver setting from auto to xshm. If you want to try the same, open gxine and go to File>>Configure>>Preferences>>gui, and change experience level from Beginner to Advanced. After that, you can see gxine's video menu. Open it and change video driver to xshm.
also try running the alsa wizard
also try boot time parms acpi=force
ttuuxxx
like one I found
changing gxine's default video driver setting from auto to xshm. If you want to try the same, open gxine and go to File>>Configure>>Preferences>>gui, and change experience level from Beginner to Advanced. After that, you can see gxine's video menu. Open it and change video driver to xshm.
also try running the alsa wizard
also try boot time parms acpi=force
ttuuxxx
http://audio.online-convert.com/ <-- excellent site
http://samples.mplayerhq.hu/A-codecs/ <-- Codec Test Files
http://html5games.com/ <-- excellent HTML5 games :)
http://samples.mplayerhq.hu/A-codecs/ <-- Codec Test Files
http://html5games.com/ <-- excellent HTML5 games :)
As I described in the edited in text there was too much that was not working compared to the 431 series for me to have time to learn this older version.
Totally failed to get sound. It even fail to show the speaker symbol which most puppies do automatically. I tried the xsmh thing in advanced too and set up the speaker volume in the audio section on the xcine.
2.1GB free mem is back though. I let this one rest now until you have great success with it and everybody talks about it. I get too depressed when almost everything just fails.
I have three puppies now that almost can stand in for Windows. I only have to get wine going on them. All else is already working. To get wine going will take all my energy for weeks I guess so 214 will be put on a shelf here collecting dust. okay!
Nice try though.
Totally failed to get sound. It even fail to show the speaker symbol which most puppies do automatically. I tried the xsmh thing in advanced too and set up the speaker volume in the audio section on the xcine.
2.1GB free mem is back though. I let this one rest now until you have great success with it and everybody talks about it. I get too depressed when almost everything just fails.
I have three puppies now that almost can stand in for Windows. I only have to get wine going on them. All else is already working. To get wine going will take all my energy for weeks I guess so 214 will be put on a shelf here collecting dust. okay!
Nice try though.
I use Google Search on Puppy Forum
not an ideal solution though
not an ideal solution though
- ttuuxxx
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well your quick to give up, Shame others could of probably helped in the next day or two, The things is when it doesn't work on one persons system and other puppies work, its nice to find out why and update accordingly.
ttuuxxx
ttuuxxx
http://audio.online-convert.com/ <-- excellent site
http://samples.mplayerhq.hu/A-codecs/ <-- Codec Test Files
http://html5games.com/ <-- excellent HTML5 games :)
http://samples.mplayerhq.hu/A-codecs/ <-- Codec Test Files
http://html5games.com/ <-- excellent HTML5 games :)
Yes sorry, I can understand your needs in that regard.
Take contact with me when I have wine going.
My crazy HP seems to have RealTech audio and they are even hard to get going on windows.
I give too fast. But I spent the better of 2008 to get linux going and I spent every day since December 2009 so I don't give up fast do I?
I've tested some 45 distros too so I have been at it on my naive level.
I am not on your level that is for sure. I barely get what you write so be happy I stood or could stand that level up to now. I am totally exchausted so should go to bed now and dream linux dreams for some 10 hours.
Take contact with me when I have wine going.
My crazy HP seems to have RealTech audio and they are even hard to get going on windows.
I give too fast. But I spent the better of 2008 to get linux going and I spent every day since December 2009 so I don't give up fast do I?
I've tested some 45 distros too so I have been at it on my naive level.
I am not on your level that is for sure. I barely get what you write so be happy I stood or could stand that level up to now. I am totally exchausted so should go to bed now and dream linux dreams for some 10 hours.
I use Google Search on Puppy Forum
not an ideal solution though
not an ideal solution though
- ttuuxxx
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well we'll be here if you want to give it another shotnooby wrote:Yes sorry, I can understand your needs in that regard.
also newer alsa drivers are located
http://puppylinux.ca/tpp/ttuuxxx/2.14series/alsa/
username: puppy
password: linux
ttuuxxx
http://audio.online-convert.com/ <-- excellent site
http://samples.mplayerhq.hu/A-codecs/ <-- Codec Test Files
http://html5games.com/ <-- excellent HTML5 games :)
http://samples.mplayerhq.hu/A-codecs/ <-- Codec Test Files
http://html5games.com/ <-- excellent HTML5 games :)
- ttuuxxx
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well Dave I would say its good enough compared with any newer version of puppy, actually it does have lots of strong points over 4 series, but you get the very very few cases that it doesn't work right, could be because its an older kernel and hence the issues with sound, or it could be some sort of updated script that we overlooked, but for my newer pc's 2.14X is the best release of puppy to date, I've tried them all, when I boot freememory applet gives me 2.4GB of ram where as any 4 series gives me 1.6GB, that alone is the difference of compiling Seamonkey, QT live or doing a frugal install.DaveS wrote:Ttuxxx, can a project like this ever be finished? I suspect not..........
Plus it has a nice selection of games and Firefox works excellent, which really I enjoy, Plus It boots up and I don't have to select "generic drivers for xorg like I do with 3 series, Quirky also, it finds the right driver straight away. Next release will still be the final, hopefully
ttuuxxx
http://audio.online-convert.com/ <-- excellent site
http://samples.mplayerhq.hu/A-codecs/ <-- Codec Test Files
http://html5games.com/ <-- excellent HTML5 games :)
http://samples.mplayerhq.hu/A-codecs/ <-- Codec Test Files
http://html5games.com/ <-- excellent HTML5 games :)
- ttuuxxx
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Hmmmm well I guess we'll hold off one the final until we workout why, 4 series runs just about everything and 2.14X failed twice now on boot, if your willing to test DaveS, I don't have that issue, so I can't solve it alone, but if we have a willing tester, it would help. Any ideas Clarfffffffffffff? lol would have to do with the bootup scripts.DaveS wrote:Strangely, it wont boot at all on my hardware (Acer Extensa Laptop). Halts at innit. But then, none of the versions have...............
All 4.*.* series are fine though. Shame as I would love to try it. Ce la guerre......
ttuuxxx
http://audio.online-convert.com/ <-- excellent site
http://samples.mplayerhq.hu/A-codecs/ <-- Codec Test Files
http://html5games.com/ <-- excellent HTML5 games :)
http://samples.mplayerhq.hu/A-codecs/ <-- Codec Test Files
http://html5games.com/ <-- excellent HTML5 games :)
Re: wireless ok with 214xrc3 live cd: not when 214xrc3 installed
but in the flurry of posts on other topics which followed
i wasn't sure if i was in the wrong thread at any rate i'm
still looking for any ideas, thanks, cheers, mm
i wasn't sure if i was in the wrong thread at any rate i'm
still looking for any ideas, thanks, cheers, mm
mmmrr wrote:howdy tuuxxx, others
wireless ok with 214xrc3 live cd: not when 214xrc3 installed
seemed so strange so i ran cd again, with pfix=ram and the rest
same as before, 'puppy nomce pci=biosirq pfix=debug,nofirewire'
and i hooked up with ndiswrapper a-ok again
tried again with installed version, ndiswrwapper loads, according
to the gui, but does not see the wireless card.
help most welcome, cheers, mm
older toshiba laptop, pent-2, 266 mhz, 160mb/ram 60gb-hdrive
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Re: wireless ok with 214xrc3 live cd: not when 214xrc3 installed
mmmrr wrote:but in the flurry of posts on other topics which followed
i wasn't sure if i was in the wrong thread at any rate i'm
still looking for any ideas, thanks, cheers, mm
mmmrr wrote:howdy tuuxxx, others
help most welcome, cheers, mm
older toshiba laptop, pent-2, 266 mhz, 160mb/ram 60gb-hdrive
hi whats the model of laptop and what is the brand and model of you card.
thanks ttuuxxx
http://audio.online-convert.com/ <-- excellent site
http://samples.mplayerhq.hu/A-codecs/ <-- Codec Test Files
http://html5games.com/ <-- excellent HTML5 games :)
http://samples.mplayerhq.hu/A-codecs/ <-- Codec Test Files
http://html5games.com/ <-- excellent HTML5 games :)
Currently the boot process stops afterttuuxxx wrote:Hmmmm well I guess we'll hold off one the final until we workout why, 4 series runs just about everything and 2.14X failed twice now on boot, if your willing to test DaveS, I don't have that issue, so I can't solve it alone, but if we have a willing tester, it would help. Any ideas Clarfffffffffffff? lol would have to do with the bootup scripts.DaveS wrote:Strangely, it wont boot at all on my hardware (Acer Extensa Laptop). Halts at innit. But then, none of the versions have...............
All 4.*.* series are fine though. Shame as I would love to try it. Ce la guerre......
ttuuxxx
'init is the parent of all processes
init'
pfix=ram makes no difference. Frugal type install on ext3 hard drive with lots (13 I think) of other Puppy variants. Without using pfix=ram, it presents me with a menu requesting I choose a save file. Selecting 0 for none seems to work properly and the boot continues as expected up to the 'init' point where it stops. Using pfix=ram in Grub, it runs straight through to the 'init' point without requesting a save file option, so script behavior is fine up to the 'init' point.
Hard re-set is the only way out.
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Hello,
Well Ttuuxxx, I know I said it before around the alpha stage but....
'init is the parent of all processes
init'
And this time putting it in /boot didnt help...Did I miss something???
That solved it then, but not now...
Well Ttuuxxx, I know I said it before around the alpha stage but....
'init is the parent of all processes
init'
And this time putting it in /boot didnt help...Did I miss something???
That solved it then, but not now...
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Its a tough one innit?puppyluvr wrote: Hello,
Well Ttuuxxx, I know I said it before around the alpha stage but....
'init is the parent of all processes
init'
And this time putting it in /boot didnt help...Did I miss something???
That solved it then, but not now...
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- MinHundHettePerro
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Do you have the required root=/dev/ram0 on your GRUB's kernel-line?DaveS wrote: init is the parent of all processes
hth /
MHHP
[color=green]Celeron 2.8 GHz, 1 GB, i82845, many ptns, modes 12, 13
Dual Xeon 3.2 GHz, 1 GB, nvidia quadro nvs 285[/color]
Slackos & 214X, ... and Q6xx
[color=darkred]Nämen, vaf....[/color] [color=green]ln -s /dev/null MHHP[/color]
Dual Xeon 3.2 GHz, 1 GB, nvidia quadro nvs 285[/color]
Slackos & 214X, ... and Q6xx
[color=darkred]Nämen, vaf....[/color] [color=green]ln -s /dev/null MHHP[/color]
OK, added that, then it boots ok (not needed in any other Puppy?). On boot, xorg wizard runs correctly, but when desktop loads, aspect ratio is wrong, stretched wide, despite correct option being offered by xorg and being selected. Xorg.conf reports correct values.MinHundHettePerro wrote:Do you have the required root=/dev/ram0 on your GRUB's kernel-line?DaveS wrote: init is the parent of all processes
hth /
MHHP
Broadcom wifi not detected, and no module available in list suitable.
Upon shutdown, blank screen instead of option to create a save file
Hard reboot required from that point........................
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