How to install Bruno puplet?

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ImmigrantUS · #1 Post by **ImmigrantUS** » Fri 05 Mar 2010, 09:00

Hello everybody! New puppy owner needs help!!!

I'm trying to install Bruno Puppy 4.3.1. in Compaq PC with AMD K6-2 533 MHz processor, 256 MB SD RAM, 30 GB HD for neighbor kids. Is it enough specs?

Partitioned HD from live Puppy CD, using Gparted: 29 GB ext4 (Boot), 500 MB Swap. No other partitions.

Bruno finally booted all the way to desktop (after a few tries), then I mounted CD rom, and started FULL install into HD. Went thru all prompts till "puppy installing files into HD" , BUT... no prompt window coming out to tell me it's done successfull install... for about 3 hours now. Going to bed, but will let it run thru the night, will check in the morning. Both HD and CD rom mounted, and system indicator is about 80-90% red in the right corner.
What should I do? Help my puppy, guys! You don't want it to be out alone in Sibirian winter, do you? (Althou I'm now in South Carolina, USA

Update: After 15 hours waiting - no change at pretty destop... Tried to install GRUB - no go... Tried to reboot - no go... hangs at kernels... Decided to try to install regular Puppy instead.

nooby · #2 Post by **nooby** » Fri 05 Mar 2010, 10:54

http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... a481eedd0f

Big Mike says about it:

BigMike

Joined: 20 Jun 2009
Posts: 3

PostPosted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 9:18 pm Post subject: Introducing Bruno Puplet
Subject description: This is a new puplet built on Puppy 431 Reply with quote
Bruno Pup 2.0 is a whole new look and uses the latest gnome directory icons. For system icons it uses a combination of gnome and crystal icons.

It includes wine, java and flash-player. I have also added plugins, extra codecs and needed extra drivers.

It has been pre-configured so there is little to do but boot up Bruno and run it.

A menu for windows programs is also included. which automatically detects the windows programs you add to the "wine drive" directory I added in root.

It includes Opera, Fire-fox and Sea-monkey web browsers. Fonts have been added to make browsing better.

I added sakura console with transparency.

It is camera ready; for cam chip and usb camera attachment.

I also added nine kinds of directory icons and added many kinds of extra icons. So you can customize it to what you like later on.

Bruno Pup also comes with my puppy resources - web-get, Woof search engine and eight puppy search engines as posted here.

http://www.puppylinux.us/BigMike/

Bruno comes in a smaller iso and a larger one which includes Open Office.

BigMike

seems to be a good choice for your neighbor's Compaq.

I let somebody else explain the full install bit.

I would have only done frugal on it. But that is because me a newbie.

ImmigrantUS · #3 Post by **ImmigrantUS** » Fri 05 Mar 2010, 17:48

Still NO indication of success on installation, as no prompt window coming out to tell me it's done successfull install, and also NO error message... after about 12 hours... No prompt to install GRUB either...

What should I do? How to check if it installed or not?

I really don't want to do frugal install, as this PC will be for my neighbor kids with unsupervised (by me) use.

ImmigrantUS · #4 Post by **ImmigrantUS** » Fri 05 Mar 2010, 17:49

deleted duplicate.

#5 Post by **BÃ©Ã¨m** » Fri 05 Mar 2010, 17:51

I think you better try to contact the creator of this bruno pup.

nooby · #6 Post by **nooby** » Fri 05 Mar 2010, 18:52

Don't get angry on me if I come through as a complete computer idiot

I would install brunopup also in frugal install on the same computer. that way you have a working system while you wait for somebody explaining how to do the full install.

I tested the Brunopup on frugal and it worked good.

Here is the menu.lst I used

title brunopup
rootnoverify (hd0,0)
kernel /brunopup/vmlinuz pmedia=satahd psubdir=brunopup
initrd /brunopup/initrd.gz

You place the three main files on the root in a subdirectory named brunopup

You extract them using a DVD with puppy on it. Or from an USB with these files on them. The menu.lst is from a grub boot but most likely work on other bootloaders too. If it doesn't then try to find what should be changed to work on that boot loader using google.

ImmigrantUS · #7 Post by **ImmigrantUS** » Fri 05 Mar 2010, 22:03

I was told on IRC channel, that specs of PC are insufficient for regular Puppy, let alone puplets. Will try to find other solution.

rjbrewer · #8 Post by **rjbrewer** » Fri 05 Mar 2010, 23:16

ImmigrantUS wrote:I was told on IRC channel, that specs of PC are insufficient for regular Puppy, let alone puplets. Will try to find other solution.

If the specs of your machine were good enough to boot the cd,
doing an install should not be a problem!

Bruno pup is something very new; I'll give it a try.

Here's instructions for a full install:

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 87&t=29653

#9 Post by **BÃ©Ã¨m** » Fri 05 Mar 2010, 23:20

Besides this, with the 256MB ram, you better create a swap file/partition of at least 1 1/2 the 256MB.

nooby · #10 Post by **nooby** » Fri 05 Mar 2010, 23:39

I have heard of people doing good with 64MB and 128 mb and I used puppy 4,0 with 256 mb and that worked well.

So Beem and others can tell you how to set up the swap file and that would make it even better in the end.

don't give up on this. you only have to wait for the relevant suggestion and it all works out.

rjbrewer · #11 Post by **rjbrewer** » Sat 06 Mar 2010, 00:06

Bruno Pup has problems with the full install I tried.
Wouldn't shutdown cleanly until I added acpi=force to the grub
kernel line, and has reboot problem after a hard shutdown.

Will not recognize my usb mouse......when booting it does a long
count on pcmcia, usb devices; a bad sign.

Try a official puppy; like 4.3.1.
If you need one with firefox and wine installed, try MiPup2.;
It's twice the size of a regular pup but uses a little less ram
when running.....nice.

ImmigrantUS · #12 Post by **ImmigrantUS** » Sat 06 Mar 2010, 01:09

Thank you all for suggestions and encouragement!

I'm trying to revitalize Compaq PC with AMD K6-2 533 MHz processor, 256 MB SD RAM, 30 GB HD for neighbor kids unsupervised usage. Frugal install doesn't appeal, especially with 30 GB HD.
Considering Full install with kids educational programs and preferably Wine support for my accumulated Windows kids games, encyclopedia, and ability to go online (on my wireless signal).

Partitioned HD from live Puppy CD, using Gparted: 29 GB ext4 (Boot), 500 MB Swap. No other partitions.

Bruno Puppy is probably out of my choices for now... It barely booted all the way to desktop after quite a few tries. FULL install into HD went thru all prompts till "puppy installing files into HD" , BUT... no prompt window coming out to tell me it's done successfull install... After 15 hours waiting - no change at pretty destop... Tried to install GRUB - no go... Tried to reboot - no go... hangs at kernels...

Decided to try to install official (pale sky;) Puppy instead.
Will see if any other advice will come, and will open other thread on Puppy install problems (I already had them...).

rjbrewer · #13 Post by **rjbrewer** » Sat 06 Mar 2010, 01:15

Pale sky??? Never heard of it!

ImmigrantUS · #14 Post by **ImmigrantUS** » Sat 06 Mar 2010, 01:38

"Pale sky" is a joke, because that's how official 4.3.1 desktop looks like

#15 Post by **BÃ©Ã¨m** » Sat 06 Mar 2010, 06:48

Béèm wrote:I think you better try to contact the creator of this bruno pup.

@ImmegrantUS,
Did you do this?

ImmigrantUS · #16 Post by **ImmigrantUS** » Sat 06 Mar 2010, 07:34

Yes, contacted BigMike thru PM. I'm not sure my hardware can handle it.

raffy · #17 Post by **raffy** » Sat 06 Mar 2010, 08:11

This one will suit your old PC
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=42553

wuwei · #18 Post by **wuwei** » Sat 06 Mar 2010, 09:07

Not sure about it, but I would format the partition with ext3 not ext4. Could be the problem.

ImmigrantUS · #19 Post by **ImmigrantUS** » Wed 10 Mar 2010, 00:28

UPDATE: Doing final shot at Bruno puplet

, thanks to Wuwei suggestion on ext3.

GOAL: Full install of Puppy on Compaq PC with AMD K6-2 533 MHz processor, 256 MB SDRAM, 30 GB HD for neighbor kids. Mainly for doing basic computing, Internet (planning to broadcast wireless for them), educational program and games (including Windows progs and games).
Considering Full install as the only OS, for their unsupervised use.

1. Read to exhaustion on Puppy installation everything found here and thru Google.
2. Partitioned HD with Gparted from live Puppy 431 CD: 27.5 GB, ext3, boot and 510 MB Swap primary partitions. Two partitions total on the whole HD. Rebooted.
3. Installed Bruno puplet from CD ISO into "Internal (IDE or SATA) HD". Went thru completely all the way, and Bruno even ejected CD at the end! After that it gave me a prompt on installing GRUB, so I did it into MBR successfully. Shot down PC, withOUT saving pup_save file.

PROBLEM: Not booting... Error 15 file not found. Press any key to continue.
(I think that it's probably due to GRUB not finding vmlinuz file or else..? Don't know exactly how to look for it, and where?)

Booted with live CD and looked into file system:

/ contains: 'archive', 'bin', 'dev', 'etc', 'gtk-2', 'initrd', 'lib', 'mnt', 'opt', 'proc', 'root', 'sbin', 'sys', 'tmp', 'usr', 'var'.

/mnt/sda1 (HD) contains: 'bin', 'boot', 'dev', 'etc', 'lib', 'lost&found', 'sys'.

/mnt/sda1/boot folder contains: only one subfolder 'grub'.

/mnt/sda1/boot/grub contains: 'device map', 'e2fs_stage1_5', 'bat_stage1_5', 'jfs_stage1_5', 'mbr.sda.26101', 'menu.lst', 'minix_stage1_5', 'reiserfs_stage1_5', 'stage1', 'stage2', 'stage2_eltorito', 'usage.txt', 'xfs_stage1_5'.

Copied menu.lst file,located at '/mnt/sda1/boot/grub' as that's what I'd be asked first.

menu.lst configuration:

# GRUB configuration file '/boot/grub/menu.lst'.
# generated by 'grubconfig'. Thu Mar 9 02:40:19 2010
#
# The backup copy of the MBR for drive '/dev/sda' is
# here '/boot/grub/mbr.sda.26101'. You can restore it like this.
# dd if=/boot/grub/mbr.sda.26101 of=/dev/sda bs=512 count=1
#
# Start GRUB global section
# timeout 30
color light-gray/blue black/light-gray
# End GRUB global section
# Linux bootable partition config begins
title Linux (on /dev/sda1)
root (hd0,0)
kernel /boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/sda1 ro vga=normal
# Linux bootable partition config ends
title Install GRUB to floppy disk (on /dev/fd0)
pause Insert a formatted floppy disk and press enter.
root (hd0,0)
setup (fd0)
pause Press enter to continue.
title Install GRUB to Linux partition (on /dev/sda1)
root (hd0,0)
setup (hd0,0)
pause Press enter to continue.
title - For help press 'c', then type: 'help'
root (hd0)
title - For usage examples, type: 'cat /boot/grub/usage.txt'
root (hd0)

Can you help me with this error 15, please?

ImmigrantUS · #20 Post by **ImmigrantUS** » Wed 10 Mar 2010, 11:09

UPDATE: BigMike recommended thru PM editing of menu.lst

Edited menu.lst by clicking on sda1 icon on desktop, clicking on 'boot', then on the only subfolder 'grub', then on 'menu.lst' and after editing clicking on [save] button with floppy-like image on menu bar at the top of window.

Edited by two ways, tried to boot after one, then the other:
1.
# Linux bootable partition config begins
title Bruno Pup
root (hd0,0)
kernel /boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/sda1 ro vga=normal
initrd /initrd.gz
#Linux bootable partition config ends

=> No go...

2.
# Linux bootable partition config begins
title Bruno Pup
root (hd0,0)
kernel /boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/sda1 ro vga=normal
initrd /boot/initrd.gz
#Linux bootable partition config ends

=> No go...

3. Also tried to put '(on /dev/sda1)' after Bruno Pup in both edits (line: title Bruno Pup (on /dev/sda1) => No go...
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No go on all attempts...

Same error 15 file not found, press any key to continue.

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Any advice is eagerly awaited!!!

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