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#41 Post by DaveS »

zigbert wrote:
DaveS wrote:May have been mentioned before: something is wrong with the USB install (install created via Universal Installer), reports 431.sfs not found. Used initrd.gz and vmlinuz from generic 4.3 to fix it. Probably initrd.gz error?
I see......initrd.gz is grabbed from jrb's special edition of Puppy 4.3.1to support newer broadcom wifi-chips. If you like to dive into this, it would be great if you'd tested this iso, just to see if usb-install works here. I think the problem only occurs when installing to a vfat partition. I have Stardust on my pen (ext2), and it works just fine.


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Negative. Installed to ext2 usb, NOT vfat
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#42 Post by jpeps »

zigbert wrote:
jpeps wrote:Maybe I'm getting confused.....To update, I have to use pfix=ram
pup-431 in Stardust 013 may be changed to future pup-431 files without pfix=ram.
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So we can trust that there will never be any new config/environment files that get updated and overwritten by pup_save files?
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Xdelta

#43 Post by bigpup »

bigpup wrote:
One thing not sure about. When I did the delta update to Stardust 012, it made a new file called new file.iso I had to rename it to Stardust 013.iso
01micko wrote:
That is a known issue with the older version of Xdelta, instructions are linked to in my signature. Wink

(easiest way is to rename .delta file BEFORE using.. if you have old delta with ":" replace "___" with ":")
So Stardust 013, 012 have the old version of Xdelta program?
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#44 Post by zigbert »

jpeps wrote:So we can trust that there will never be any new config/environment files that get updated and overwritten by pup_save files?
You can never trust a home brewed os. :wink:

Stardust will only get small updates from now on. We should focus on Puppy 4.4. - so, yes. - I think it will be ok to replace pup-431 in future update. Anyway, - I have no intentions to make myself a os-manager. - I think we have enough derivates.


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#45 Post by zigbert »

DaveS wrote:
zigbert wrote:
DaveS wrote:May have been mentioned before: something is wrong with the USB install (install created via Universal Installer), reports 431.sfs not found. Used initrd.gz and vmlinuz from generic 4.3 to fix it. Probably initrd.gz error?
I see......initrd.gz is grabbed from jrb's special edition of Puppy 4.3.1to support newer broadcom wifi-chips. If you like to dive into this, it would be great if you'd tested this iso, just to see if usb-install works here. I think the problem only occurs when installing to a vfat partition. I have Stardust on my pen (ext2), and it works just fine.


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Negative. Installed to ext2 usb, NOT vfat
Please give a note to jrb


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#46 Post by trio »

Ziggy,

dir2pet is faulty, see:

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 159#402159

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#47 Post by `f00 »

___firstlook (pfix=ram,usw)___
Stretched images look not-so-good in Xvesa at start (very blocky gradation at lower color depth, but it's quicker than messing with Xorg for a throwaway 1stlook), then settle in .. 'lost' the special intro :| since I was getting Xvesa confirmed for preferred display res. Black geany .. (oh well, there's maybe a half-dozen pets that I'd dump in without even thinking - xfe+, leafpad or zedit and htop immediately; a 'box wm and medit .. likely an alternative browser). :lol: , 'forgot' about notecase (doh!), and I don't even have to know what a node is (gee, hit the `<key> and instant console, just like I've heard it's supposed to be.. :) ) full-size screenie 135k It'll be nice when geany's less painful to try and read with (inverted can be useful, just not my choice for a default).

Retrovol .. not real enthused (ui not obvious, r-click gives *way* too many sliders on my card, file->configure seems still to kill it rather than bring up any config ui :| ).

Are local docs 'broken' (somewhat of an issue/feature since p421 in official releases and most derivatives, afaict .. more in this thread ) or is it more of a individual per-app-as-maintained thing? Rox and mtpaint are a few exceptions to the google/linux.die.net 'feature' that often happens with some 'help' ui :|

Although PCC is a core feature of Stardust DE, it may be a bit odd to get used to. Little things like reloading jwm are not easy to find (nevermind the following - when I finally felt like it I found the alt+F1->Leave, Shutdown/ change.. dialogue box which is actually pretty darn unambiguous once you find it .. I'm far too used to using plogout instead(; ) (example - when I set for sloppy focus, it didn't take effect until I reset tray management .. hardly intuitive) or the Environment->Dark/Bright buttons (radio button would seem more logical/positive if a reset is needed before result is apparent .. I miss gtk chtheme already, but glomming stuff into a 'global' icons/gtk/jwm/widgetstyles seems like it should work in a fairly limited setup - maintaining a Grand Unified Control Center Interface is probably more suited for custom installations and tailors with too much chalk and pins). Popup tips would help the Services tab, imo.

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testimonial

#48 Post by prehistoric »

Zigbert,

Your Stardust 013 saved the day in a bad situation. I had a (unofficial) "service call" to rescue a Windoze XP system which was in bad shape. When I got there my first couple of tools wouldn't work. I ended up using my super multi-boot floppy to boot into Stardust 013. This worked, except for a known problem with Xorg and SiS video, I booted a second time and used Vesa.

After that I was able to get on-line, look at file systems, test devices, and use F-prot, which had not worked properly from the stock 4.3.1. This scanned the suspect system and turned up a number of nasty little pieces of malware which had prevented doing anything useful under Windoze. There were problems with the scan, but the improvement was enough to get me to the point where I could use the XP system to run other repair tools.

The contrast between the minutes spent installing Puppy and hours spent fighting with Windoze made a significant impression on people.
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Install Stardust 013

#49 Post by puppystar »

Hello Zigbert!
My friend, I already have a puppy installed on my machine, but would like to install the 013 stardust doing dual boot. the friend could help me with this orientation?
I would be very grateful.
A big hug and good work!
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#50 Post by davids45 »

G'day zigbert,

Last night I tried Startdust 013 (delta-ed up from 012) and have a couple of minor comments:

drive icons (my computer has about 30 partitions/drives) still do not align nicely across the bottom of the monitor in two rows.

the CUPS version does not allow the user to select their own PPD file - please try Patriot's CUPS 1.3.11 pet which worked for me with my new colour laser once I had installed it over the Stardust 013 version - I can now print Ocad maps directly from wine/Puppy :D !

I use desk-top computers so want the numlock key on - is there some way to add this option to the Control Panel under "keyboard"? Users with small laptops want it off, so choosing which should be a simple-to-find start-up option.

Widgets - I have dual core desk tops so have to modify the cpu-bar widget to show both processors, and I also add the RAM bar to this widget config file for simplicity. Any way for the CPU widget to display multi-CPUs by default or by it checking what is in the computer?

Very impressed with 013 as usual.

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Re: testimonial

#51 Post by jpeps »

prehistoric wrote: There were problems with the scan, but the improvement was enough to get me to the point where I could use the XP system to run other repair tools.


Simply deleting the XP system and doing a frugal install of Startdust could have freed up additional wasted space and prevented similar problems in the future. 8)
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Re: testimonial

#52 Post by abushcrafter »

jpeps wrote:
prehistoric wrote: There were problems with the scan, but the improvement was enough to get me to the point where I could use the XP system to run other repair tools.


Simply deleting the XP system and doing a frugal install of Startdust could have freed up additional wasted space and prevented similar problems in the future. 8)
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Re: Install Stardust 013

#53 Post by zigbert »

puppystar wrote:Hello Zigbert!
My friend, I already have a puppy installed on my machine, but would like to install the 013 stardust doing dual boot. the friend could help me with this orientation?
I would be very grateful.
A big hug and good work!
You did get help in another thread, didn't you?


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#54 Post by zigbert »

davids45 wrote:Widgets - I have dual core desk tops so have to modify the cpu-bar widget to show both processors, and I also add the RAM bar to this widget config file for simplicity. Any way for the CPU widget to display multi-CPUs by default or by it checking what is in the computer?
You should ask in the pwidgets thread, someone did exactly what you ask for..... was it trio or 01micko....... hard to remember all stuff happening around here :) I think it was left out of official Pwidgets release because you had to manually set it.


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#55 Post by zigbert »

I have released a installable pet of Stardust desktop environment. here. For now, I will pause the Puppy Stardust project, and focus instead on only the desktop modules.


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#56 Post by sinc »

davids45 wrote: drive icons (my computer has about 30 partitions/drives) still do not align nicely across the bottom of the monitor in two rows.
MHHP has always had trouble with his drive icons aligning and I think he has the solution. heres a link to one of his dicussions about the drive icons.

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 3c3f5d913b
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#57 Post by MinHundHettePerro »

sinc

I already had a go at it for stardust 008 or 009, where I also tried to stay clear of the widgets. It unfortunately failed due to the order of creation of pinboard, widgets, and possibly other things, in the stardust generation script.

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#58 Post by abushcrafter »

I am glad you removed the desktop environment generation stuff from boot as it was a right pain when remastering anyway the little extra space used up does not bother me.
zigbert wrote:I will pause the Puppy Stardust project, and focus instead on only the desktop modules.
Sorry I am confused? What's the "desktop modules", PCC?
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#59 Post by zigbert »

abushcrafter wrote:Sorry I am confused? What's the "desktop modules", PCC?
First there was a Stardust icon-set, then there was a Stardust gtk-theme, then this Puppy Stardust puplet, now only Stardust desktop environment. Confusing......not at all :D


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#60 Post by DC »

Hi Zigbert,

Sad for the pause in Puppy Stardust project but I can appreciate why.

One of the main reasons I enjoyed your puplets was the inclusion of bug fixes all in one place. And the fact that some bug fixes don't always work when you try to do them yourself.

Thanks for the Star in the dust

DC
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