Classic Pup 2.14X -- Updated 2 series
- Colonel Panic
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Thanks ttuuxxx, and you're right; it's on version 16 anyway. I was using version 11, which was the one I happened to have available when the machine needed a new OS. Sorry, I should have made that clear.
Best,
CP .
Best,
CP .
Gigabyte M68MT-52P motherboard, AMD Athlon II X4 630, 5.8 GB of DDR3 RAM and a 250 GB Hitachi hard drive running Ubuntu 16.04.6, MX-19.2, Peppermint 10, PCLinuxOS 20.02, LXLE 18.04.3, Pardus 19.2, exGENT 200119, Bionic Pup 8.0 and Xenial CE 7.5 XL.
Hi ttuuxxx, sorry for the late response.ttuuxxx wrote:hi clarf did you finish the boot splash ? I would like to add it to the next release
ttuuxxx
Yes, I finished it and I already posted the necessary files to be added to the ISO.
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... start=3479
clarf
Wow. I have passed over this thread for ages because, well it's about a 2 series pup. Big mistake! I'm posting from rc5 now and this is good, in fact very good.
This is kinda like a classic car, restored to better than new. Hey, how about Classic Pup? It even has a 66 VW on the desktop.
To everyone involved in this.. WELL DONE!
PS is this the devx to use? devx_214X-RC2.pet
This is kinda like a classic car, restored to better than new. Hey, how about Classic Pup? It even has a 66 VW on the desktop.
To everyone involved in this.. WELL DONE!
PS is this the devx to use? devx_214X-RC2.pet

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Yes devx_214X-RC2.pet is fine, really its only missing one dev file libnotify-0.4.4-dev.pet2byte wrote:Wow. I have passed over this thread for ages because, well it's about a 2 series pup. Big mistake! I'm posting from rc5 now and this is good, in fact very good.
This is kinda like a classic car, restored to better than new. Hey, how about Classic Pup? It even has a 66 VW on the desktop.
To everyone involved in this.. WELL DONE!
PS is this the devx to use? devx_214X-RC2.pet
below is the missing dev
ps I like Classic pup 2.14X great name
ttuuxxx
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http://audio.online-convert.com/ <-- excellent site
http://samples.mplayerhq.hu/A-codecs/ <-- Codec Test Files
http://html5games.com/ <-- excellent HTML5 games :)
http://samples.mplayerhq.hu/A-codecs/ <-- Codec Test Files
http://html5games.com/ <-- excellent HTML5 games :)
Ah well. Not yet ready for prime time. This will not install as a frugal and boot. It gets past copying pup_214X.sfs to tmpfs and then gives a busybox error and then it stalls.
My menu.lst entry, as suggested by the installer
There is also a problem with the installer itself. When copying the system files there is no dialog saying 'copying ..' although it does copy the files. Also the filemnt command is missing and sfs files cannot be mounted by clicking in rox. Here is a slice of the xerrs.log that may help.
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Usage init
init is the mother of all processes
My menu.lst entry, as suggested by the installer
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title Classic Pup 214X frugal
rootnoverify (hd0,0)
kernel /vmlinuz pmedia=idehd
initrd /initrd.gz
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/root/.config/rox.sourceforge.net/MIME-types/application_x-ext3-image: line 2: exec: filemnt: not found
hda "WDC WD1600AAJB-00PVA0, size 149.1 GiB" hdb "Maxtor 6L100P0, size 93.16 GiB" hdd "Maxtor 6E030L0, size 28.64 GiB"
hda
ls: cannot access /mnt/hda1/pup_[0-9][0-9][0-9].sfs: No such file or directory
ls: cannot access /mnt/hda5/pup_[0-9][0-9][0-9].sfs: No such file or directory
hda1: ext3, size 76.60 GiB
hda5: ntfs, size 22.51 GiB
ls: cannot access /mnt/hda1/pup_[0-9][0-9][0-9].sfs: No such file or directory
gxmessage: message text is required
Try `gxmessage --help' for more information
/usr/sbin/puppyinstaller: line 1249: kill: (4459) - No such process

- MinHundHettePerro
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The kernel line should contain:2byte wrote:and then it stalls.Code: Select all
Usage init init is the mother of all processes
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root=/dev/ram0
See this post!2byte wrote:Also the filemnt command is missing and sfs files cannot be mounted by clicking in rox.
And, ttuuxxx, Classic pup 214X sounds like a good and spot-on name for this puppy.
hth /
MHHP
[color=green]Celeron 2.8 GHz, 1 GB, i82845, many ptns, modes 12, 13
Dual Xeon 3.2 GHz, 1 GB, nvidia quadro nvs 285[/color]
Slackos & 214X, ... and Q6xx
[color=darkred]Nämen, vaf....[/color] [color=green]ln -s /dev/null MHHP[/color]
Dual Xeon 3.2 GHz, 1 GB, nvidia quadro nvs 285[/color]
Slackos & 214X, ... and Q6xx
[color=darkred]Nämen, vaf....[/color] [color=green]ln -s /dev/null MHHP[/color]
- MinHundHettePerro
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2byte
Sorry , I didn't read even read what you wrote properly before answering. You said that you couldn't click-mount an .sfs-file in Rox. I just looked at your attached code, which showed that you tried to mount a .3fs-file - the post I linked to addresses this problem.
As to click-mounting .sfs-files in Rox: it works very well for squashfs-files of version 3.0, as used in puppy series 2 (and, I think series 3) but, not for squashfs ver. 3.1, as used in 4.12, nor for squashfs ver. 4, as used in later puppies, quirkies, waries etc.
As I understand it, simply mounting a squashfs requires a matching version of squashfs to be built into the kernel. You can, of course, still unsquash it to a directory (or look at its contents) by using the appropriate version of unsquashfs. ttuuxxx has also provided a squashfs-version-changer-utility, the name of which evades me at the moment, though .
hth /
MHHP
Sorry , I didn't read even read what you wrote properly before answering. You said that you couldn't click-mount an .sfs-file in Rox. I just looked at your attached code, which showed that you tried to mount a .3fs-file - the post I linked to addresses this problem.
As to click-mounting .sfs-files in Rox: it works very well for squashfs-files of version 3.0, as used in puppy series 2 (and, I think series 3) but, not for squashfs ver. 3.1, as used in 4.12, nor for squashfs ver. 4, as used in later puppies, quirkies, waries etc.
As I understand it, simply mounting a squashfs requires a matching version of squashfs to be built into the kernel. You can, of course, still unsquash it to a directory (or look at its contents) by using the appropriate version of unsquashfs. ttuuxxx has also provided a squashfs-version-changer-utility, the name of which evades me at the moment, though .
hth /
MHHP
[color=green]Celeron 2.8 GHz, 1 GB, i82845, many ptns, modes 12, 13
Dual Xeon 3.2 GHz, 1 GB, nvidia quadro nvs 285[/color]
Slackos & 214X, ... and Q6xx
[color=darkred]Nämen, vaf....[/color] [color=green]ln -s /dev/null MHHP[/color]
Dual Xeon 3.2 GHz, 1 GB, nvidia quadro nvs 285[/color]
Slackos & 214X, ... and Q6xx
[color=darkred]Nämen, vaf....[/color] [color=green]ln -s /dev/null MHHP[/color]
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Yes, I discovered this behavior when I made myMinHundHettePerro wrote:2byte
As to click-mounting .sfs-files in Rox: it works very well for squashfs-files of version 3.0, as used in puppy series 2 (and, I think series 3) but, not for squashfs ver. 3.1, as used in 4.12, nor for squashfs ver. 4, as used in later puppies, quirkies, waries etc.
*sfs compatibility chart*
replace .co.cc with .info to get access to stuff I posted in forum
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MHHP, I missed your reported fix for filemnt. And thanks for the info on the different squashfs types. I didn't know that.
Is a different menu.lst entry all that it takes to get this to boot? I think I saw one report somewhere in this massive thread where a frugal install of this type was hand made. I'll search after I post this.
Is a different menu.lst entry all that it takes to get this to boot? I think I saw one report somewhere in this massive thread where a frugal install of this type was hand made. I'll search after I post this.

- MinHundHettePerro
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@2byte
Since the boot-parameter psubdir of later puppies is not valid in 214X, one possible boot stanza to boot 214X from a frugal install to /dev/hda6/puppy_214XRC5 follows:
Hth & Cheers /
MHHP
Since the boot-parameter psubdir of later puppies is not valid in 214X, one possible boot stanza to boot 214X from a frugal install to /dev/hda6/puppy_214XRC5 follows:
Not every entry above is needed, slim to your preference!title Puppy 214XRC5 on hda6/puppy_214XRC5_ext2FS
rootnoverify (hd0,5)
kernel /puppy_214XRC5/vmlinuz root=/dev/ram0 PMEDIA=idehd PDEV1=hda6 PUPMODE=12 DEV1FS=ext2 SFSFILE=ext2,hda6,/puppy_214XRC5/pup_214X.sfs ZDRV=ext2,hda6,/puppy_214XRC5/zdrv_214X.sfs PUPSAVE=ext2,hda6,/puppy_214XRC5/pup_save-214XRC5.2fs PKEYS=se
initrd /puppy_214XRC5/initrd.gz
Hth & Cheers /
MHHP
[color=green]Celeron 2.8 GHz, 1 GB, i82845, many ptns, modes 12, 13
Dual Xeon 3.2 GHz, 1 GB, nvidia quadro nvs 285[/color]
Slackos & 214X, ... and Q6xx
[color=darkred]Nämen, vaf....[/color] [color=green]ln -s /dev/null MHHP[/color]
Dual Xeon 3.2 GHz, 1 GB, nvidia quadro nvs 285[/color]
Slackos & 214X, ... and Q6xx
[color=darkred]Nämen, vaf....[/color] [color=green]ln -s /dev/null MHHP[/color]
So the only 2 things needing attention in the puppyinstaller is to add root=/dev/ram0 to the suggested newgrub.txt and to fix the copying message when copying the files to the hd.
My working menu.lst entry is Boots with /classicpup/pup_save-classic_puprc5.3fs ignoring all other save files on this computer.
Many thanks MHHP!
My working menu.lst entry is
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title Classic Pup 214X frugal
rootnoverify (hd0,0)
kernel /classicpup/vmlinuz root=/dev/ram0 pmedia=idehd psubdir=classicpup pupsave=ext3,hda1,/classicpup/pup_save-classic_puprc5.3fs
initrd /classicpup/initrd.gz
Many thanks MHHP!

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I recompiled ttuuxxx's blinky for gtk-1.2 - it works for displaying traffic, but may be missing some other features that I don't use. Maybe someone with a low end machine will want it for the lower resource usage though.
kb usage according to top
gtk2 = 11056
gtk1 = 3728
Edit: while I am at it ... some other gtk1 apps
Minimum Profit - highlighting text editor with tabs and more
Graphical Process Statistics - like top and pprocess combined
Ggradebook - tool for teachers
xmms - fairly up to date audio player (it is over half of this tarball)
gtkedit - basic text editor
gftp - same ftp client that is in puppy but version 2.18
gvidm - screen resolution setter
blinky - network monitor
I also have the latest versions of rox(SVN ~1.3.X) and gimp(1.2.5) that used gtk1 if anyone is interested
kb usage according to top
gtk2 = 11056
gtk1 = 3728
Edit: while I am at it ... some other gtk1 apps
Minimum Profit - highlighting text editor with tabs and more
Graphical Process Statistics - like top and pprocess combined
Ggradebook - tool for teachers
xmms - fairly up to date audio player (it is over half of this tarball)
gtkedit - basic text editor
gftp - same ftp client that is in puppy but version 2.18
gvidm - screen resolution setter
blinky - network monitor
I also have the latest versions of rox(SVN ~1.3.X) and gimp(1.2.5) that used gtk1 if anyone is interested
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Pleased with fit, finish, and snap of 2.14 RC5, just tried; not that I was ever disappointed in Series 4.20 + pups since becoming a Puppy lover 14 months ago.
But, I couldn't write a playlist file to the NTFS volume from which I'd been listening to tracks. Will there be NTFS write support? Or is this not possible/desireable with this 2.6.18 Linux kernel?
But, I couldn't write a playlist file to the NTFS volume from which I'd been listening to tracks. Will there be NTFS write support? Or is this not possible/desireable with this 2.6.18 Linux kernel?
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Thanks techno I'll check them . glad to see less memory usage, nice bonustechnosaurus wrote:I recompiled ttuuxxx's blinky for gtk-1.2 - it works for displaying traffic, but may be missing some other features that I don't use. Maybe someone with a low end machine will want it for the lower resource usage though.
kb usage according to top
gtk2 = 11056
gtk1 = 3728
Edit: while I am at it ... some other gtk1 apps
Minimum Profit - highlighting text editor with tabs and more
Graphical Process Statistics - like top and pprocess combined
Ggradebook - tool for teachers
xmms - fairly up to date audio player (it is over half of this tarball)
gtkedit - basic text editor
gftp - same ftp client that is in puppy but version 2.18
gvidm - screen resolution setter
blinky - network monitor
I also have the latest versions of rox(SVN ~1.3.X) and gimp(1.2.5) that used gtk1 if anyone is interested
ttuuxxx
http://audio.online-convert.com/ <-- excellent site
http://samples.mplayerhq.hu/A-codecs/ <-- Codec Test Files
http://html5games.com/ <-- excellent HTML5 games :)
http://samples.mplayerhq.hu/A-codecs/ <-- Codec Test Files
http://html5games.com/ <-- excellent HTML5 games :)
geode driver
C'mon ttuuxx,
Put a geode driver in RC6. Will you?...
Anything newer than xorg-x11-drv-geode 2.10.0 should be OK.
Put a geode driver in RC6. Will you?...
Anything newer than xorg-x11-drv-geode 2.10.0 should be OK.
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Can someone help me figure out how to make this version of open office work with 214x. It seems to me that all the dependencies PPM says it is missing are actually there.
Thanks
http://www.silverdollarsolutions.com/Pu ... /ooo32.pet
Thanks
http://www.silverdollarsolutions.com/Pu ... /ooo32.pet
DemostiX,
I am traveling around with a netbook at the moment, using a different pup, but if memory serves -- try mounting your NTFS drive with one of the other ROX Pinboard (desktop) tools for NTFS write capability. A quick search of this thread will show where I previously encountered the same problem and a few responses later (by someone else), the detailed fix (user action). http://www.wellminded.com/puppy/pupsearch.html
Sinc wrote:
-Roy
I am traveling around with a netbook at the moment, using a different pup, but if memory serves -- try mounting your NTFS drive with one of the other ROX Pinboard (desktop) tools for NTFS write capability. A quick search of this thread will show where I previously encountered the same problem and a few responses later (by someone else), the detailed fix (user action). http://www.wellminded.com/puppy/pupsearch.html
Sinc wrote:
I second that request. Pri's Open Office 3.2 really is good!Can someone help me figure out how to make this version of open office work with 214x
-Roy