Wary 0.3 (030) feedback

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BarryK · #1 Post by **BarryK** » Thu 10 Jun 2010, 00:14

The previous Wary thread (020) is here:
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=54728

Wary 030 is announced here:
http://bkhome.org/blog/?viewDetailed=01657

Download:
http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/dis ... /wary-030/

This is exciting stuff, an old kernel with Squashfs4 and the latest Aufs2. And maybe, perhaps, ext4 support. It is configured for uni-processors and the old IDE drivers -- meaning that you internal hard drives will show up as /dev/hda etc.
-- the internal IDE optical drive will also be /dev/hd*.

Have fun!

James C · #2 Post by **James C** » Thu 10 Jun 2010, 01:36

Quick test on two machines , live pfix=ram.

My trusty P3 test box( 733 mhz/256 mb ram/1gb swap)..........repeated kernel panic....never loaded.

My main Linux box (2.0 ghz/1 gb ram/ 1 gb swap)...................running it now. At first glance appears to be working fine. No problems with internet connection, display or sound.

Billtoo · #3 Post by **Billtoo** » Thu 10 Jun 2010, 02:50

I'm running wary 030 on a fairly new computer with an AMD Phenom II quadcore cpu and ati hd3200 graphics.
Running live with a save file.

The best resolution I can get is 1280x1024, even when choosing 1920x1080 so the screen has a stretched look

I compiled vlc 1.06 and it works fine, plays dvd's perfectly (same as in quirky 1.20) but when I exit vlc it gives a segmentation fault.That also happens in quirky 1.20.

Flash videos at cnn and youtube videos play perfectly.

That's it so far.

Jim1911 · #4 Post by **Jim1911** » Thu 10 Jun 2010, 03:03

New frugal installation on an ext4 partition. Setup was flawless, everything appears to be working correctly, all drives are properly recognized as indicated by desktop photo.

System: BFG NVIDIA Geforce 8400 GS 512MB, Asus P6T Motherboard, Intel core i7-920 (8MB Cache, 2.66 GHz), DDR3 3GB 1333MHz ram, Pioneer DVR-2910 DVD+-RW Dual Layer Burner, Realtek ALC1200 Audio, HP Photosmart C5280 All-in-One

James C · #5 Post by **James C** » Thu 10 Jun 2010, 06:26

Went back to the old P3 test box and did a fresh manual frugal installation on a ext 3 partition.On the initial boot all configuration went smoothly and everything seems to work correctly.

Shows and correctly identifies all the partitions too.

broomdodger · #6 Post by **broomdodger** » Thu 10 Jun 2010, 08:10

wary030 frugal
acer TravelMate 4670 notebook
Genuine Intel(R) CPU T2300 @ 1.66GHz
Family, model, stepping: 6, 14, 8 (Pentium III/Pentium III Xeon/Celeron)

I tried to turn off touchpad tapping:
Menu>Setup>Mouse/keyboard Wizard>Configure your touchpad...
but got this error:
Can't access shared memory area. SHMConfig disabled? [close]

Then tried it from console:

~# flsynclient
Can't access shared memory area. SHMConfig disabled?

~# flsynclient -v
Reading synclient output
Executing: (synclient -l) 1>&2
Can't access shared memory area. SHMConfig disabled?
SIGCHLD from synclient

tedward · #7 Post by **tedward** » Thu 10 Jun 2010, 09:30

Wary 03 running all day on IBM Thinkpad T23 without any problems at all.
Hmmm.......I like this. Like the latest SeaMonkey too.
Will use Wary exclusively for a while, and stand down (sit down?) Puppy 4.3.1..

Puppy's been my first choice O/S since version 1.0.3.

Great work Barry. How on earth do you manage to continually work so hard? Some of us are sure glad that you do.

Tedward

UPDATE
No luck with 2nd old computer, although 4.3.1.runs fine on it.
Problem is that xvesa is unable to be selected manually via the option screen, so it heads off to xorg (which I know won't work) and then locks up in a black screen (rather like Sage's report). Tuff.

UPDATE 2. No luck with 3rd computer either. That one has the same Xorg/Xvesa trouble too, and ends in a locked up black screen. Usually works OK on XORG but not this time.
However I am actually typing this on the IBM T23 Thinkpad, so that one still works OK on WARY.

UPDATE 3. None of these 3 computers will work on XVESA. I presume that the select option is broken?

01micko · #8 Post by **01micko** » Thu 10 Jun 2010, 12:51

Ok

Old P3 600 coppermine, vanta graphics, 256 RAM..

Booted ok, but vesa selected by xorgwizard by default, reran and "chose" nv, that worked fine, nv now used in xorg.conf.

No sound. All puppies and puplets (including slaxer-pup.. with a 2.6.27.x kernel and Lupu/Quirky with latest kernels) have found my sound card OOTB. Tried alsawizard, didn't work. Here's the error when trying to play a sound..

Code: Select all

# aplay /usr/share/audio/2barks.wav
ALSA lib confmisc.c:768:(parse_card) cannot find card '0'
ALSA lib conf.c:4154:(_snd_config_evaluate) function snd_func_card_driver returned error: No such device
ALSA lib confmisc.c:392:(snd_func_concat) error evaluating strings
ALSA lib conf.c:4154:(_snd_config_evaluate) function snd_func_concat returned error: No such device
ALSA lib confmisc.c:1251:(snd_func_refer) error evaluating name
ALSA lib conf.c:4154:(_snd_config_evaluate) function snd_func_refer returned error: No such device
ALSA lib conf.c:4633:(snd_config_expand) Evaluate error: No such device
ALSA lib pcm.c:2211:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM default
aplay: main:608: audio open error: No such device

ndiswrapper worked fine with my TI card and SNS (you know the one Barry, I think you have the same card

)

No kernel except for the really retro ones have been happy on this machine. Usually they run fine but if the machine is left idle for a couple of hours I come back to a blank screen lock-up. (have tried with different video cards, this one, an old Riva and and an S3 pci card). The old 2.6.18 kernels seem to work well with this box. We'll see how this one goes.

Cheers and thanks for Wary.

raffy · #9 Post by **raffy** » Thu 10 Jun 2010, 13:03

In the Atom combo board, only Xvesa works, and Network wireless can't connect via RTL 8180 PCI (working since 412).

Terryphi · #10 Post by **Terryphi** » Thu 10 Jun 2010, 14:28

I loaded Wary 030 on my Acer Aspire 1350 laptop using a Netgear WG111 usb adaptor. Basically, it works but the wireless connection set up using SNS is not saved after reboot. Using Network Wizard I am able to reboot with a connection.

I have also seen some garbled browser screens on Seamonkey, Firefox and Opera (10.10) but am unable to replicate at the moment. Is this some kind of video issue?

On shutdown there is a repeated error message which moves too quickly for me to capture. However it includes :
udevd-event[6131] unlink-secure ............ failed

edoc · #11 Post by **edoc** » Thu 10 Jun 2010, 14:38

Once I was informed that I needed to change "sda2" to "hda2" in my GRUB menu.lst file Wary 0.3 (030) booted fine.

I had grown accustomed from Lucid 500 and Quirky to manually selecting VESA on this Panasonic Toughbook CF-29 with the Intel 82852/855GM graphics chipset but when I did so in Wary I got a gray screen - after a cold reboot I chose Probe and xorg worked again as it had in 4.31

The default Web browser works fine as it handled both http://foxnews.com and
http://media.myfoxtampabay.com/myfoxhurricane/
both of which have challenged some other Puppy/browser combos.

Will post further as I explore more but so far Wary 0.3 looks real good!

rjbrewer · #12 Post by **rjbrewer** » Thu 10 Jun 2010, 17:02

On a Pavilion p2 400mhz, 128mb ram, it would load as far as the
window manager. Would not open rox, desktop background.
Will need a little more ram for that one.
Edit; Loaded fine on second try.

Inspiron p3, 800mhz, 256mb ram;
Inspiron 700m 1.6ghz, 1gb ram.
No problems loading or shutting down with xorg or vesa.
No special cheatcodes needed.
Edit; needs acpi=force for reboot on 700m full install.

Mplayer has little red marks on dvd select, will not open any dvd
from menu.

Would be nice if it could use a media player from the 4.xx series.
So far, the Gxine that was in Lupu 501 has been the best for dvd.

On multi-boot with earlier Puppies, an ext4 install can not be seen
or mounted from the earlier ones.
With an ext3 install, it can eventually be found with pmount, mutt.

Jim1911 · #13 Post by **Jim1911** » Thu 10 Jun 2010, 19:58

New frugal installation on an ext3 partition on an old Sony Vaio with 64MB ram. Works great with a wired internet connection.

`f00 · #14 Post by **`f00** » Fri 11 Jun 2010, 12:41

For those of us on dialup, could a wary-020.iso___wary-030.iso.delta be provided?
TIA (and hope it's not all that radical of a wary change..)

tubby · #15 Post by **tubby** » Fri 11 Jun 2010, 13:54

Toshiba Portege notebook, congrats Barry internal wifi working with Wary030 frugal install.
I have not tried anything else yet apart from this browser but i am going to do a full install and put it through its paces.

retry3 · #16 Post by **retry3** » Fri 11 Jun 2010, 15:20

Many thanks Barry!

As reported before in a previous Puppy, the Menu list from the bottom bar only stays up for a brief time, about 5 seconds, before it disappears.

Regards,
retry3

edoc · #17 Post by **edoc** » Fri 11 Jun 2010, 19:20

Question:

If I have a sfs setup for Puppy 4.31 and want to use it in Wary 030 how do I rename it, please?

e.g. "oxygenoffice301_431-sfs4.sfs"

Do I rename it "oxygenoffice301_wary030-sfs4.sfs" ?

ANSWER: NO. Rename it: "oxygenoffice301_wary-030.sfs"

Sage · #18 Post by **Sage** » Fri 11 Jun 2010, 19:34

Jackpot! First ever Puppy not to give a picture on neither Xorg nor VESA with a bog std. nV card. Blank screen, locked solid, no response to CTRL-ALT-BKSPACE or CTRL-ALT-DEL. As for use with older kit, this one is a disaster.
At this time, I think we need a reliable definition of "older" - is it really a Cx300 or do those transatlanticans see any single core as 'old'? I have amassed a collection of recent kit that works on just about everything. Yoper and Sabayon are the only other two that regularly fail totally, although Mandriva and Zenwalk are another couple going nowhere.
At present I am liking F13 despite detractors - the Xfce desktop is already present in the PM. Nice. And yes, it runs on very old kit if there's sufficient memory.

edoc · #19 Post by **edoc** » Fri 11 Jun 2010, 21:40

What is the latest word on printers with Wary, please?

Are we still saddled with the ever-troublesome CUPS?

We have a HP Photosmart C4480 and a HP LaserJet P1006 which have not been usable for several weeks due to some weird CUPS malfunction somewhere among our several Puppy-equipped laptops (the trouble started with conflicting versions on 4.31 and 4.21) on a common router.

It seems that versions of CUPS must be matched across the network or else they collide.

Has anyone seen any improvement in stability in the CUPS distributed with Wary 030?

`f00 · #20 Post by **`f00** » Fri 11 Jun 2010, 22:02

It should be possible to 'generify' some sfs files by leaving off the _<suffix> (I do that with a few home-made ones) if they open and work in different pups of not-too-different breeds. Renaming to a specific pup-version on the other hand limits the sfs (but does give an indication especially in the case of authoring that it works in that pup). Up to the user to determine which works best for their particular setup since there can be some few compatibility issues. Personally I'd rather generify and test (after a quick spot-check for sfs version) than rename with the _suffix to another pup-version.

If only in the interests of keeping it simple and as versatile as possible, if your oxygenoffice301 works across all your pups a simple oxy301-4.sfs would do?

sry, no printer here..

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