Lucid Puppy 5.1- A Full-Featured Compact Distro

[Lobster]

In 505
Audio and Ethernet persistent through boots (as previously reported)

was hoping to add the following to
the wiki but it is (as seems too usual) getting too many hits . . .
Could not get in . . .
Maybe it can be added/modified for the news page?

Is Puppy Lucid 5.1 based on Ubuntu
No.
Puppy is its own dog
We have a 'woof' building system
that allows us to build Puppy from the kernel
and binaries of other distros (pre compiled programs and libraries)
Puppy can be built from Ubuntu, Debian, Slackware, Arch and t2
but with the unique Puppy scripts included.

Does Puppy Lucid 5.1 use some Ubuntu files?
Yes.
Puppy uses his own unique scripts,
packaging system (quickpet and pet),
configuration, programs and wizards
and adds the tested efforts of the
popular Ubuntu.

How should Puppy Lucid be run?
Any which way you like
Once in memory, Puppy is fast.
Run from DVD, CD, USB keydrive, SD, Hard Drive
or even in multi-session self auditing format
(files saved on CD or DVD)

Why do you run as root?
Because we run our own machines and take responsibility for them.
We are designed to load and run from USB or DVD (straight to desktop)
We are not designed for multi-user usage.
With great power (over your system) comes great responsibility
(for your data). Puppy users take charge.

So technically you are dangerous?
Very. We bypass network security and firewalls.
and are recommended by security agencies as unhackable.
What is on the CD/DVD is never compromised.
With Puppy, comes great power
in a small package

How can LPuppy Lucid 5.1 be so small and have so many programs?
We choose simple efficient programs.
Puppy is lean and muscled.
We would be smaller but other distros
are often not as efficient as Puppy
Using Ubuntu files (though convenient) is
a compromise.

What about tech support?
Try us.
Puppy users are loyal because our forums, wikis, IRC,
blogs and web sites are constantly updated and improved.

[Jasper]

Hi,

Just a thought:

By default (to save space) packages are discarded.
Check this box to delay your options to discard or move
packages (see the Help File for advice [or say, Press F1]).

Would any checking/unchecking be permanent until amended.

My regards

PS 504 worked well for me on my limited trial.

[Lobster]

If looking at images in Firefox in 505
Right clicking on image brings up the option to
use as desktop - but it does not . . .

Is this possibly being worked on?

[Iguleder]

It works only with GNOME/Nautilus, Lobster. Firefox is famous for its GNOME integration

[01micko]

<STORY all the cr#p about "default bla bla action in QP " on page 80>

Too many bl##dy opinions on something that is trivial!

The files go to /tmp, default action is they are gone on reboot, </END OF STORY>

_____________________________________________________

Now.. let's fix bugs!!!!!

[Tasgarth]

is it the good link for 505.iso ?
url : http://www.diddywahdiddy.net/Puppy500/lupu-505.iso

No 'this' iso on the server :

The document name you requested (/Puppy500/lupu-505.iso) could not be found on this server. However, we found documents with names similar to the one you requested.

Thanks.

[Lobster]

It works only with GNOME/Nautilus, Lobster

m m m . . . sorry guys going a bit off topic - but this is XUL?
Can't we 'hijack' the code call and redirect it?

OK off to find some bugs . . .

[Billtoo]

I tried doing a full install of 505 and I found out that each time you run the
universal installer a screen about missing dependencies pops up.
When you come to the install/update part choosing to update an existing menu.lst
file works, (you edit your old menu.lst manually) but choosing to install grub
automatically fails.
On one attempt after choosing to install grub during the universal installer script
(and knowing it had failed) I went back into the system menu and ran Grub bootloader config and it installed grub to the mbr and on next boot the full install worked,
my other installs on the hd were missing from menu.lst but I had a backup.

edit: I was thinking that perhaps the missing dependencies screen would pop up if I booted the cd with pfix=ram and waited awhile, but no, only when running the universal installer script.
So, as a layman, I'd say the universal installer script is broken.

Trying to help.

[Iguleder]

Lobster, modifying Firefox is a legal problem already. The Firefox license says that Firefox is a brand and you can't distribute a modified copy of Firefox with the name Firefox and the Firefox logo. That's what happened with Debian, they modified Firefox and had to rename it to Iceweasel with a polar bear logo.

If we do that, users won't have any idea what "Namoroka" is, that's bad. Firefox is a strong brand, people need Firefox to be there as Firefox.

[rhadon]

is it the good link for 505.iso ?
url : http://www.diddywahdiddy.net/Puppy500/lupu-505.iso

Yes, I've just downloaded and installed.

~ Rolf

[smil99]

I did a frug'al install (as always) onto one of my partitions and selected 'save to sda1' option which means the entire partition is used instead of a pupsave.
After rebooting, everything seemed okay until I loaded an sfs file through the BootManager and tried rebooting. This resulted in a kernel panic!
I had no such problem using lupu until version 5.01 and I reported somewhere in this thread about the problem but no one paid any attention. Probably this has to do with the file system either being 'Unionfs' or 'Aufs' or that something might have been changed after version 5.01. To help solve the problem, you may be interested in Barry's post here.

Cheers.

[darwinev0lved]

Hi, just trying out Lupup505 and first impressions are mostly very good.

Quick thought first of all, when you first start puppy and it offers you the screen with the options to change all the locale etc. settings - wouldn't it be a good idea to actually say what they are currently set to? i.e. (I assume) US keyboard and Perth time-zone? Otherwise, people might think that puppy had automagically got the locale stuff right.

Otherwise set up is pretty smooth - blackscreens are a thing of the past.

Still having trouble with symlinking firefox and thunderbird to my /mnt/home directory - but I'm not so sure this is a Puppy problem specifically.

See, the wonderfully titled "Symlinked components break everything"

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=551152

and also this:

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=608511

(the latter suggests that 3.1.1 has fixed it, but haven't tried it yet, that's next)

Seems to affect both firefox and thunderbird (as a work around - start them in safemode, then immediately quit, then you can start them as normal; which makes it annoying, not unworkable)

The other problem of openoffice installing wrong, I'm afraid I haven't tested - I've got it installed in any case and I don't want to break anything else!

[edit: nope, thunderbird 3.1.1 still has start-up issues]

[Stripe]

Hi All

Thanks 01micko
Installed graphics_fixup-2.pet and now the card is recognised and gives driver recomendation with graphics driver test in quickpet.

Cheers
Stripe

[Tasgarth]

is it the good link for 505.iso ?
url : http://www.diddywahdiddy.net/Puppy500/lupu-505.iso

Rhadon wrote

Yes, I've just downloaded and installed.

Now, it's OK
Thanks Rolf

[James C]

<STORY all the cr#p about "default bla bla action in QP " on page 80>

Too many bl##dy opinions on something that is trivial!

The files go to /tmp, default action is they are gone on reboot, </END OF STORY>

_____________________________________________________

Now.. let's fix bugs!!!!!

Thanks Mick.......................

[TomRhymer]

Trying out Lupu-505 on my Acer Aspire One D-150.

All of my initial checks work, except one. If I click on an html file, the web browser doesn't come up. I'm using Firefox.

[don570]

I went to cat dude's page
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 36&t=56081
and did a search for Stripe's graphic card
nVidia Corporation GT218 [GeForce 210] (rev a2).
I didn't find anything, whereas my card
nvidia GeForce2 MX/MX 400 was listed.
That makes me think that Stripes's card had a low volume production run.

[shinobar]

Jim1911, Stripe and i reported that the console font is so large that the bottom of xorgwizard dialog on console cannot be seen.
it occurs on lupu-504 and 505 but 503 is fine. these 3 PCs all have nvidia graphic tip.

I compared /etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit on lupu-503 and on 504,505, and found 504 adds next 2 lines at line 594-.

Code: Select all

   gzip -dcf /lib/keymaps/fr.gz | loadkmap
   gzip -dcf /lib/consolefonts/lat1-12.psfu.gz | loadfont

revertiing rc.sysinit to the one of lupu-503 must solve the above problem.

but i made another trial. i reverted the rc.sysinit to that of recent woof.
i made modified(only rc.sysinit reverted to the woof one) main sfs, lupu-505 sfs and replaced that of a frugal installed lupu-505.
boot up without lupusave.

the desktop directly comes same as before. go to console and run xorgwizard and found no problem(pending other bugs).

[Billtoo]

I booted the 506 cd with prefix=ram.
I started the universal installer and chose to do a full install on sda2.
When it got to the "updating rc.config" part the "missing dependencies" screen
popped up, I think that is the name of the file it was updating.
I chose to install grub to sda2 and it created a boot directory and a grub
subdirectory which was empty.

I reran the universal installer and chose to do a frugal install on sda1.
There was no "missing dependencies" screen pop up during the process and the screen with the data to insert into my existing menu.lst file appeared on the screen and I inserted it into the menu.lst file.
I rebooted into 506 from the grub menu.

I set up the wireless network and downloaded the video driver and opera and did some other setup and then rebooted creating my save file.
I then downloaded the icewm art and themes from the puppy package manager.

So, same problem doing a full install and grub setup in a full install as 505.

edit:
I installed the devx and compiled moc-2.4.4, not exactly heavy duty but I use moc all the time

[James C]

Fresh manual frugal install of Lupu-506 on the old P3..........short and sweet...............everything good.

Going to hook up one of my spares again to test the installer, back in a few.