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#1 Post by Lobster »

I just committed pre-meditated murder

As a Buddhist this is not something generally
considered advisable.

The repercussions could last for many lifetimes or
tea time next Tuesday (whichever comes first)

Normally I have qualms about killing computer bugs.

The mouse I murdered was not even connected
to my computer :cry:
It may have been my imagination but she seemed
to have been only stunned by the new fangled trap . . .

I was advised as a last meal the trap should be
baited with chocolate spread.
I callously set and baited with peanut butter. :cry:

I have reset the trap
I am a potential serial killer. :shock:

Thanks for listening . . .
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#2 Post by Notorik »

Oh no! The real tragedy is "killing" vs. "not killing" :) Ah, what does a lobster know about that?
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#3 Post by Lobster »

:)

I probably know even less than this pair of killers.
One killing gullibility and one killing Nothing
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/w ... 067989.ece

In Tantric Buddhist Dzogchen doctrine
sentient beings (including mice) are seen as
literally illusionary, which means I am innocent
of all action and inaction
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dzogchen

Holy Buddha, I'm getting away with murder! :roll:
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I consider my living space to be a black hole for non-human forms of life, with the exception of pets and spiders. Not that I have cobwebs all over my place, but I never had a problem with spiders. I once caught a whole family of mice over a weeks time in an apartment I had many years ago. No compunctions whatsoever after I discovered they were getting into my rice, lentils and underwear.
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#5 Post by Lobster »

No compunctions whatsoever after I discovered they were getting into my rice, lentils and underwear.
Kinky mice eh?

Well it has now escalated
I caught 3 mice in traps the other night.

We have two electronic re-pellers
(eh not re-pellers as I put before - must have had rodents on the brain)
glue traps did not work

I am thinking of playing random demonic
cat sounds through VLC

neighbors have same problem
also heard that peppermint candy wrapped in
nylons reminds them of cats

I wonder if Bugman will send me a good mouser . . .

actually rather than playing sounds of demonic cats
- I could try cats in heat and employ some of the local toms . . .
. . . a plan is coming together

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#6 Post by Bruce B »

The Good Book says: Kill and eat

Well, did it taste good?
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#7 Post by hillside »

We do our best to fool ourselves, but at our core, we're all savages. None of us is all that much better than the worst of us.

If an enlightened lobster can't rise above brutality, how can there be any hope for the rest of us?
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#8 Post by bugman »

lobster, there are live traps available in mouse sizes

catch and release

:wink:
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#9 Post by tubeguy »

Lobster wrote:
No compunctions whatsoever after I discovered they were getting into my rice, lentils and underwear.
Kinky mice eh?
I was living in a pretty bad basement apartment in Chicago at the time, just got sober for the first time in '92, living out of boxes. Mice had chewed through the boxes and dined on the underwear therein.

I used peanut butter in the traps, never occurred to me to put underwear in the traps.

Took about a week to get them all.

I didn't mind the holey underwear that much.
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#10 Post by hillside »

"catch and release"
I wonder how much that differs from "escape and return"?
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#11 Post by nooby »

Lobster,

you can try out Amida Buddha or why not Guanyin, she has compassion for every sentient beings and let it come to her even if you kill it I hope.

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Nope it is not persistent. I am not that clever.
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#12 Post by Flash »

If you want a mouser, don't bother with a cat, get a rat terrier.
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#13 Post by RetroTechGuy »

bugman wrote:lobster, there are live traps available in mouse sizes

catch and release

:wink:
Perhaps in the near vicinity of some hungry kitty-cats.. :lol:
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#14 Post by Notorik »

It's not an issue for me because I can't kill anything that's not trying to kill me (or my family) and that's just the way it is. My cat (RIP) however completely actualized her "cat nature" with no ethical compunctions whatsoever. Cat nature is cat nature and that's how that goes. :D
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#15 Post by Lobster »

Bruce B suggests the literary tactic
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The Good Book says: Kill and eat
Well, did it taste good?
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LOL
I have a feeling you did not mean this recipe book
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Walt-Disneys-Mi ... 0307168123
. . . actually that cookbook is not what I googled for 'Mouse recipe book'


Hillside asserts:
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If an enlightened lobster can't rise above brutality, how can there be any hope for the rest of us?
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Enlightened? I am a genocidal maniac where mice or tins of fish are concerned
or around about tea time . . .


Bugman (who is responsible for the mice)
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lobster, there are live traps available in mouse sizes
catch and release
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Bugman, we used one of those
but forgot about the mouse and she starved to death [sob]
Never again . . .

Maybe I will just become a Jain


Flash suggests the Puppy approach:
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get a rat terrier.
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we are Dorg
you will be assimilated
I like it
- sensible idea, will look into that
I was thinking of a ferret, the tactic used at a Buddhist Monastery I was staying at


Notorik suggests:
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It's not an issue for me because I can't kill anything that's not trying to kill me (or my family) and that's just the way it is
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They are driving me crazy
. . . well crazier
and you can get ill (and perhaps die)
from mouse carried disease

Just re-peanut buttered the traps
for them to practice their 'mouse ninja' peanut licking skills


Nooby suggests:
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you can try out Amida Buddha or why not Guanyin, she has compassion for every sentient beings and let it come to her even if you kill it I hope.
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. . .. and then tells me about installing SuperOS (good call) . . .
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I think it has better security than Ubuntu
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. . . and then . . . ?
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They will hate me for it.
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The mice are against Linux?
Steve Balmer is a rodent?
Many of us thought he might be part gerbil . . .

. . . m m m . . . yes . . . I am thinking of re-invoking Bast
maybe I can find a suitable Buddhist mantra to chant at the mice . . .


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#16 Post by tubeguy »

I'll just leave this here:

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#17 Post by Lobster »

LOL Tubeguy

I think our mice are ninja trained . . .
they are stealing peanut butter off the traps
without setting them off . . .

It seems whatever is in the peanut butter
is making them smarter.

Outwitted by a mouse! :?
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#18 Post by obxjerry »

they are stealing peanut butter off the traps
without setting them off . . .
Advice from a killer; tie a bit of cloth or string to the trap before you put on the peanut butter. :wink:
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#19 Post by Lobster »

Advice from a killer
Many thanks for enabling my carnage attempts.
Tried the string. Peanut butter missing.

Have now tried 5 different kinds of trap.
Including 3 double sets of 'advanced mouse trap'
Mice are getting fat and we are running out of peanut butter.

The latest effort was a live trap.
They go in but can not get out.

They did not go in. :roll:

Peanut butter intact only in that trap
- rest licked clean . . .
Who is training them?

There is a trap that electrocutes mices.
Just seems a little extreme.
Another tip was to put coca cola out for them
(they are unable to burp and the gas expansion kills them)
must be a joke . . . anyway it might rot their cute little teeth . . .
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Does_Pepsi_Co ... ce_or_rats

Anyway I am not funding mouse parties . . .

I have my set of mousy scare sounds
(owls, hawks and insane cats) and will be setting up
this up on a random cycle with mplayer in Lucid . . .
- was gonna write a program but a couple of silence mp3's
should suffice to give them a random surprise . . .

However knowing this bunch they may
just think it is part of a new 'mouse rave' culture
. . . One of the sonic repellers has flashing red lights on it

I am worried about leaving an unattended
laptop with potential internet access for the mice . . .

I think I will take a risk. :shock:

I will also be leaving out peppermint tea bags
(they don't like the smell) and blocking any holes with wire wool

I am a disgrace to Buddhism! :cry:

Maybe I should try this tactic from a terrorist organization?
http://www.animalliberationfront.com/Pr ... dhists.htm
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#20 Post by Sylvander »

I've used with great success...
A small [3/8 inch?] cube of RAW potato.
The mouse chews on the potato, which sets off the trap.
You must put fresh potato in the trap each new day or so.

We get rodents [normally mice] pretty much every year just before Xmas [they seem to come indoors for the winter].

Nowadays I call in the local West Lothian Council vermin exterminator [a free service].
He places containers of poison bait, and removes them after about a month.
Originally small grains in a plastic tray.
Noticed last time he was using solid blocks of bait [they nibble it] inside a small house/container that only a mouse was small enough to access.

Apparently the poison makes the rodent go outside to look for water [it makes them bleed internally, and they become thirsty], and they almost always die in the outdoors.
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