Insidious Puppy 001

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jplt · #41 Post by **jplt** » Mon 29 Nov 2010, 16:46

Hi,

i have a gigabyte usb keyboard but it didn't
work when i boot in the desktop ?

#42 Post by **BÃ©Ã¨m** » Mon 29 Nov 2010, 17:34

On reboot I didn't have my internet connection back I did setup and had to do it again.
Then I saw that when I had setup the connection in the first boot, the wireless device was eth0 (very unusual here)
Now after the reboot it was eth1 and configured again.
Will see at the next reboot what will happen.

Billtoo · #43 Post by **Billtoo** » Mon 29 Nov 2010, 17:47

I have 001 installed to a flashdrive with bootflash.
I started out on my newer hp computer and installed the devx and
kernel source sfs from page one but when I exited to the prompt and
ran the commercial ati driver
ati-driver-installer-10-10-x86.x86_64.run there were errors and the
flgrx driver wouldn't work so:

I booted up the flash drive on my 3 year old acer with nvidia graphics
and I downloaded and installed your nvidia-260.19.21-k2.6.32.26.pet
and:
# glxgears
Running synchronized to the vertical refresh. The framerate should be
approximately the same as the monitor refresh rate.
33393 frames in 5.0 seconds = 6678.534 FPS
27770 frames in 5.0 seconds = 5553.938 FPS
31423 frames in 5.0 seconds = 6284.523 FPS
29832 frames in 5.0 seconds = 5966.399 FPS
27271 frames in 5.0 seconds = 5454.153 FPS
#
anyhow, it's running very well on the acer, fast!

Edit: I'll attach the error.log from trying to install the ati driver.

Edit: retrovol is broken, if I try to run it from the console it gives a segmentation fault.

Jim1911 · #44 Post by **Jim1911** » Mon 29 Nov 2010, 19:52

Super! It's fast, stable, and works great.

These applications have been added and most work properly:

=== /initrd/tmp/EXTRASFSS ===
amarok-1.4-lucid.sfs
Bibletime_lucid-2.7.2a.sfs
java_jre-6u22-Lucid-sfs4.sfs
LibreOffice_3.3.0_beta2a_sfs4.sfs
=== User Installed Pkgs (PPM) ===
Package Description
gnome-games-Lite_2.26.1-i486-dpup Gnome Games
libclucene0ldbl-0.9.21b-2+b1 library for full-featured text search engine (runtime)
libgtkhtml3.14-19-3.30.3-1 HTML rendering/editing library - runtime files
libgtkhtml-editor-common-3.30.3-1 HTML rendering/editing library - editor widget data
libicu44-4.4.2-2 International Components for Unicode
libsword8-1.6.1+dfsg-2+b1 API/library for bible software
xiphos-3.1.3-3 environment for Bible reading, study, and research
xiphos-data-3.1.3-3 data files for Xiphos Bible study software
libgtkhtml-editor0-3.30.3-1 HTML rendering/editing library - editor widget
xiphos-3.1.3-3 environment for Bible reading, study, and research
aurora-jwm-theme-001 aurora jwm theme
nvidia-260.19.21-k2.6.32.26 nvidia gpu drivers
flashplayer-10.1.102.64 adobe flash player
fbreader-0.12.8 FBReader E-book reader
liblinebreak-1.2
Acrobat_Reader-9.3.3-Lucid Adobe Acrobat Reader PDF application
bluefish-2.0.2 Bluefish text editor
edit_sfs-2.1 Edit .sfs files
Firefox-4.0b7-Lucid Firefox web browser
hplip-3.9.12-scan HP Scanner Drivers
LHP_sys_info-0.3 Lighthouse System Information & Video Report
Pet_Maker-1.7-3-430 Pet Maker Plus
pwidgets-2.3.1 Pwidgets tiny desktop apps
snap2-4.17 snap2 snapshot backup now!
Startmount-0.5.3 Startmount Mount drives and programs at start
sunbird_1.0b1-1.0b1 Sunbird personal organizer
thunderbird-3.1 e-mail client
Wbar_with_setup-1.3.3-Lucid Wbar Setup -adjust wbar settings
PupApps-1.1 PupApps launcher
PupClockset-1.0 PupClockset utility
PupControl-1.1 PupControl panel
PupShutdown-1.4 PupShutdown manager
PupSnap-1.1 PupSnap screen capture
scrot_0.8-13 scrot CLI screen capture

Problems with added programs:
1. One of my favorite addons, Wbar, will not start. 01micko's fine Wbar-setup appears to function perfectly except for starting Wbar. NOTE: Removing Quickpet, one of the default applications called by Wbar which isn't present in insidious, allows Wbar to work properly.
2. Pwidgets only partially works, however that's also a problem with luci-240.

Cheers,
Jim

Fishy · #45 Post by **Fishy** » Mon 29 Nov 2010, 20:46

I tried frugal install using pfix=ram. Universal installer says sdb1 where I place installs is mounted or mounted read only and will not proceed. Checked icon and said to unmount all partitions. Used Gparted to check and unmount swap file so as far as I can tell all everything is umounted but no go. Pmount shows nothing on SDB mounted.

I have deleted inpu save file as well to be on safe side. I am typing this from inpu now but somewhat confused as to issue - probably something simple.

Assist required

edoc · #46 Post by **edoc** » Mon 29 Nov 2010, 21:07

Which PET or SFS of OpenOffice is recommended for use with Insidious, please?

I started to load the openoffice-3.2.1.9502_en.US.pet but the pop-up warned about installing to /mnt/home

BTW: That error message includes a misspelled word.

sneekylinux · #47 Post by **sneekylinux** » Mon 29 Nov 2010, 22:52

have a video for you on the tube guys....

01micko · #48 Post by **01micko** » Mon 29 Nov 2010, 23:09

Jim1911 wrote: Problems with added programs:
1. One of my favorite addons, Wbar, will not start. 01micko's fine Wbar-setup appears to function perfectly except for starting Wbar.
2. Pwidgets only partially works, however that's also a problem with luci-240.

Cheers,
Jim

hmmmm... wbar is not one size fits all, I bet a program is missing/changed. I may have to make a simpler version with apps we know will be in puppy.

As for pwidgets I can't reproduce your problems Jim.. I will still investigate.

__________________________________

I also had Billtoo's kernel source problem trying to compile nvidia-173.XX.XX.. maybe just a symlink.

__________________________________

Xfce gtk themes don't play nice sometimes. It's a known issue in luci

Cheers

Jim1911 · #49 Post by **Jim1911** » Mon 29 Nov 2010, 23:11

edoc wrote:Which PET or SFS of OpenOffice is recommended for use with Insidious, please?

I started to load the openoffice-3.2.1.9502_en.US.pet but the pop-up warned about installing to /mnt/home

BTW: That error message includes a misspelled word.

Try LibreOffice, OpenOffice.org's spinoff. It works fine on incidious.

Jim1911 · #50 Post by **Jim1911** » Mon 29 Nov 2010, 23:28

01micko wrote:
Jim1911 wrote: Problems with added programs:
1. One of my favorite addons, Wbar, will not start. 01micko's fine Wbar-setup appears to function perfectly except for starting Wbar.
2. Pwidgets only partially works, however that's also a problem with luci-240.

Cheers,
Jim
hmmmm... wbar is not one size fits all, I bet a program is missing/changed. I may have to make a simpler version with apps we know will be in puppy.

As for pwidgets I can't reproduce your problems Jim.. I will still investigate.

__________________________________

I also had Billtoo's kernel source problem trying to compile nvidia-173.XX.XX.. maybe just a symlink.

__________________________________

Xfce gtk themes don't play nice sometimes. It's a known issue in luci

Cheers

Why didn't I think of that?

Quickpet is the culprit. Wbar starts fine with that removed.

Apparently, I have a hardware conflict. I've tried Pwidgets as the only added program so there isn't a program conflict. Others have reported no problem with pwidgets.

Thanks,
Jim

tubeguy · #51 Post by **tubeguy** » Mon 29 Nov 2010, 23:30

sneekylinux wrote:have a video for you on the tube guys....

Nice!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSFJpzyOVcI

01micko · #52 Post by **01micko** » Mon 29 Nov 2010, 23:35

Guess what... pupRadio works! Weird eh? Teh Insidious Puppeh is looking the goods!

Cheers

Iguleder · #53 Post by **Iguleder** » Tue 30 Nov 2010, 08:30

sneekylinux wrote:have a video for you on the tube guys....

Nice review, thanks

I added PupRadio back, it fixed itself magically, just like the GNOME-MPlayer fullscreen bug

I think I'll build a 002 and write a full guide for building it during the process. I found a serious bug in my deb2ppm script, which screws up dependencies in PPM a 'lil bit.

aragon · #54 Post by **aragon** » Tue 30 Nov 2010, 09:21

iguleder,

just to let you know about an xlock bug that happens in insi (but i think it's woof):
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 400#472400

aragon

Iguleder · #55 Post by **Iguleder** » Tue 30 Nov 2010, 10:03

Hey guys, here's the solution to the package lists problem. I uploaded it only for passionate testers

Before you run this one, do

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rm /root/.packages/Packages-*

Then restart X or run /root/Startup/download_package_lists. It will download a small xz-compressed tar archive with the package lists that came with 001. Around 1 MB in size ... it's great.

EDIT: the 1.2 MB size is because of the xz compression. In the Insidious ISO, I'm pretty sure they take way more.

I want 002 to have this thing instead of the package lists, they're big. I could make this script download Debian package lists and process them, but that would require a fast PC with Bash code or the devx if I want to use my deb2ppm script (for Perl).

EDIT: had a crazy idea ... what if I wrote a script that compares two SFSs, then takes all the extra files from the second one, puts them in a directory and writes a pinstall.sh that removes all files that don't exist in it ... this could be sort of a primitive updating mechanism - I could turn this into a PET and make this dialog also download and install so-called "updates".

Iguleder · #56 Post by **Iguleder** » Tue 30 Nov 2010, 10:45

Another idea. I also replied in Barry's blog with this one.

I could make all the special stuff in Insidious much more generic with a homepage field in DISTRO_SPECS.

For example, the package list could be downloaded from:

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$DISTRO_REPOSITORY/$DISTRO_FILE_PREFIX-$DISTRO_VERSION/Packages.tar.gz

In the case of Insidious Puppy 001:

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http://brainwavedesigncentral.net/dima/inpu-001/Packages.tar.gz

In the case of Lucid Puppy 5.2:

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http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/puppylinux/lupu-520/Packages.tar.gz

In the case of Wary 098:

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http://www.bkhome.org/wary-098/Packages.tar.gz

The distro homepage variable could be used for many other things, the possibilties are endless.

This opens the door to smaller puppies that download non-crucial parts such as documentation and locales if the user wants to. Of course, this could be done through PPM, but what if it's a puplet or a Puppy that doesn't have its own repository? That's where this trick shines

This could be used for "service packs", Quickpet and so many other uses ... I think it's a great idea.

abushcrafter · #57 Post by **abushcrafter** » Tue 30 Nov 2010, 11:58

What about this for a home page: http://puppy.b0x.me/psearch.html

Iguleder · #58 Post by **Iguleder** » Tue 30 Nov 2010, 12:02

What about this as /usr/local/bin/defaultbrowser?

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#!/bin/busybox ash

if [ ! -d /root/.mozilla ]; then

  exec /usr/bin/iceape "http://puppy.b0x.me/psearch.html $@"

else

   exec /usr/bin/iceape "$@"

fi

Should make the browser open on this page when you first start it ... well, theoretically. Not sure if it really works.

tubeguy · #59 Post by **tubeguy** » Tue 30 Nov 2010, 12:07

abushcrafter wrote:What about this for a home page: http://puppy.b0x.me/psearch.html

Love it, bookmarked. Nice job.

Billtoo · #60 Post by **Billtoo** » Tue 30 Nov 2010, 12:30

I found this wallpaper, looks kind of nerdy.

Fresh install of sid pup on acer revo, working good so far.

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