VLC 8.6h mediaplayer Lite 7.8MB pet
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Well you could try the older version of VLC I contributed back in 2007 -
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=13863
This was definitely compiled with LIVE555 support.
In an attempt to clear up potential confusion over this subject:
the video stream you mentioned in your earlier thread
[url]rtsp://qss.itc.virginia.edu/itc-pubs/when-I-go-to-UVA-lg.mov[/url]
is from a LIVE555 server, and it does require explicit LIVE555 support in the media player application.
But movie trailers from Apple do not require LIVE555 support, in fact they require no special streaming support (such as RTSP) at all !!
This is because the movie trailers on Apple's site are all just normal HTTP links. They are not video streams!
Apple has deliberately chosen to use QuickTime progressive download instead of streaming.
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=13863
This was definitely compiled with LIVE555 support.
In an attempt to clear up potential confusion over this subject:
the video stream you mentioned in your earlier thread
[url]rtsp://qss.itc.virginia.edu/itc-pubs/when-I-go-to-UVA-lg.mov[/url]
is from a LIVE555 server, and it does require explicit LIVE555 support in the media player application.
But movie trailers from Apple do not require LIVE555 support, in fact they require no special streaming support (such as RTSP) at all !!
This is because the movie trailers on Apple's site are all just normal HTTP links. They are not video streams!
Apple has deliberately chosen to use QuickTime progressive download instead of streaming.
tempestuous --
I sincerely appreciate your response. I think the confusion began for me when I noticed terms overlapping. "QT", for instance. Apparently it sometimes means a library of widgets written in C++ and used in the open source community to build GUIs, but sometimes it is an abbreviation for QuickTime, as in "QT file". Then there is the fact that a "QT file" is also an "MOV file", so follows the faulty reasoning:
"If this RTSP stream ends with ".mov", that means it is QuickTime file, which means that anything requiring a QuickTime plugin is a stream."
But as you are pointing out: nope. Not the case. In fact, Googling the subject yields this extremely clear illustration of the differences between HTTP and RTSP in simple language -- and whaddya know? It's written by one of the VLC devs.
http://www.remlab.net/op/vod.shtml
Anyway, I plan to give your VLC pet a whirl and would love help resolving how to stream RTSP.
And as a final note, now that I know that I technically CAN watch Apple Movie Trailers, I'd like to go on record having said, "BOOOOOOO.....APPLE!!!!! -- and offer this fine alternative site for watching super HD trailers:
http://www.traileraddict.com/
Thanks all for the help. Puppy people rock.
I sincerely appreciate your response. I think the confusion began for me when I noticed terms overlapping. "QT", for instance. Apparently it sometimes means a library of widgets written in C++ and used in the open source community to build GUIs, but sometimes it is an abbreviation for QuickTime, as in "QT file". Then there is the fact that a "QT file" is also an "MOV file", so follows the faulty reasoning:
"If this RTSP stream ends with ".mov", that means it is QuickTime file, which means that anything requiring a QuickTime plugin is a stream."
But as you are pointing out: nope. Not the case. In fact, Googling the subject yields this extremely clear illustration of the differences between HTTP and RTSP in simple language -- and whaddya know? It's written by one of the VLC devs.
http://www.remlab.net/op/vod.shtml
Anyway, I plan to give your VLC pet a whirl and would love help resolving how to stream RTSP.
And as a final note, now that I know that I technically CAN watch Apple Movie Trailers, I'd like to go on record having said, "BOOOOOOO.....APPLE!!!!! -- and offer this fine alternative site for watching super HD trailers:
http://www.traileraddict.com/
Thanks all for the help. Puppy people rock.
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You might wanna try this if you are using Lucid 5.1
It's gmplayer with all the codecs you could want, I believe it will stream RTSP,
among many others... (includes w32codecs, and non-free-codec packages)
But unfortunately it doesn't play well with JWM, so use it only in icewm, also I took out the .desktop file, so there's no menu entry.... just run from console type - gmplayer....
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=57913
It's gmplayer with all the codecs you could want, I believe it will stream RTSP,
among many others... (includes w32codecs, and non-free-codec packages)
But unfortunately it doesn't play well with JWM, so use it only in icewm, also I took out the .desktop file, so there's no menu entry.... just run from console type - gmplayer....
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=57913
Let me summarise how I now understand this whole business, thanks to your patient assistance.Dennola4 wrote:tempestuous --
Anyway, I plan to give your VLC pet a whirl and would love help resolving how to stream RTSP.
There are various protocols that we may wish to accommodate, including http, rtsp, mms, & pnm. Of these, the browser itself understands only http protocol. When we wish to process any of these other protocols, we (i) need to install an application that understands that particular protocol, and (ii) we need to inform the browser of this application's name so the browser can delegate the processing of that protocol's data to that application.
My personal interest at this stage is radio streaming (the limitations of my dialip internet access precludes movie streaming).
To satisfy (i) for the rtsp protocol, I installed the HelixPlayer and I can demonstrate its capability of accommodating rtsp this way: in a console type:
helix rtsp://.....
To satisfy (ii) for the rtsp protocol I added three lines in about:config as I am indebted to Dennola4 for showing elsewhere. Yes, that's three** lines for Firefox 3.6 --- whereas only two of those lines were needed in versions before 3.6.
Now that seems clear enough, one would think ..... until I noticed Mplayer playing an rtsp stream before I had added any lines in about:config. So how can Firefox have Mplayer handling rtsp, you may ask? Well, it turns out there is such a thing as transporting rtsp over http, so I guess I must be seeing an example of that. Here it is: http://dynamic.rte.ie/av/live/radio/0708.smil and it doesn't look like an rtsp streaming real audio does it?
Now get your head around that!
That 3rd line provides for you to select the application at run time. Don't change it in any way.Dennola4 wrote:**
network.protocol-handler.app.rtsp user set string /usr/bin/vlc
network.protocol-handler.external.rtsp user set boolean true
network.protocol-handler.expose.rtsp user set boolean false
To enable mms streaming as well, repeat the above to create three more statements, but substituting mms for rtsp in each.
Post Script:
Don't leave yet, there's a follow-up to this saga, folks.........
So I upgraded to Firefox 3.6.8 and added the same 3 lines again for mms support, and similar for rtsp. I restarted FF and, guess what .... ? It didn't work! I restarted again and clicked on a site with an mms:// URL and got the same old "no application associated with that protocol" whine all over again! I restarted FF a few times, still no go. I rebooted, still wouldn't budge. No success for rtsp URLs either.
But have patience. Two days and about 4 reboots later, for no reason known, FF suddenly decided it would begin recognising mms:// URLs. Okay, so it still didn't recognise rtsp:// URLs but I was thankful for small mercies.
Then, two days further on the weather conditions and planetary alignments must have been just to its liking, because FF started to recognise rtsp:// URLs too!!
Whoo Hoo!
The moral of this message is ....... just be patient. It won't work right away; it probably won't work next day; but sooner or later, when you least expect it, FireFox will start working!
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- ttuuxxx
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Hi I updated the link on page 1vlcproblem wrote:Hello
i need to download the VLC package for Puppy 4.3.1 but all the download links in this thread end in a 404 Page not found error
does anybody have a link to download the PET package?
thanks a lot in advance
ttuuxxx
http://audio.online-convert.com/ <-- excellent site
http://samples.mplayerhq.hu/A-codecs/ <-- Codec Test Files
http://html5games.com/ <-- excellent HTML5 games :)
http://samples.mplayerhq.hu/A-codecs/ <-- Codec Test Files
http://html5games.com/ <-- excellent HTML5 games :)
I went here:
http://wellminded.com/puppy/pupsearch.html
Which got me here:
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 249#218947
Hope that helps.
http://wellminded.com/puppy/pupsearch.html
Which got me here:
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 249#218947
Hope that helps.
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=31890
You did not look to hardvlcproblem wrote:Hello
i need to download the VLC package for Puppy 4.3.1 but all the download links in this thread end in a 404 Page not found error
does anybody have a link to download the PET package?
thanks a lot in advance
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=31890
The link to vlclocales.pet seems to be broken too. Where can i find it? Thanks.ttuuxxx wrote:Hi I updated the link on page 1vlcproblem wrote:Hello
i need to download the VLC package for Puppy 4.3.1 but all the download links in this thread end in a 404 Page not found error
does anybody have a link to download the PET package?
thanks a lot in advance
ttuuxxx
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Link is fixed, please check first postelpablo75 wrote:The link to vlclocales.pet seems to be broken too. Where can i find it? Thanks.ttuuxxx wrote:Hi I updated the link on page 1vlcproblem wrote:Hello
i need to download the VLC package for Puppy 4.3.1 but all the download links in this thread end in a 404 Page not found error
does anybody have a link to download the PET package?
thanks a lot in advance
ttuuxxx
ttuuxxx
http://audio.online-convert.com/ <-- excellent site
http://samples.mplayerhq.hu/A-codecs/ <-- Codec Test Files
http://html5games.com/ <-- excellent HTML5 games :)
http://samples.mplayerhq.hu/A-codecs/ <-- Codec Test Files
http://html5games.com/ <-- excellent HTML5 games :)