Troubles installing puppy in a VERY old computer.

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lost_whisper
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Troubles installing puppy in a VERY old computer.

#1 Post by lost_whisper »

Hi,puppies!

I was wondering if it'd be possible to install Puppy Linux directly from the Shell, since my computer hasn't enough RAM even to execute the GUI.

I would really appreciate any help, since this is my first time with this kind of Operating Systems.
2lss
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#2 Post by 2lss »

Try booting with:

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pfix=nox 
You can run a frugal install without X, however I don't think you can do a full install.

Or if you look around the forum, I remember seeing a minimal puplet somebody made without Xorg.
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#3 Post by bigpup »

Give specs of computer.
There may be a Puppy version that will run on it.
Bruce B

#4 Post by Bruce B »

A VERY old computer in this day and age is very RELATIVE.

I'm getting along fine with my dinosaur.

Will you please post the CPU, RAM and disk space? Don't worry, we won't
laugh. Anyway, if someone does, I'll tell them about my computer.

Then I'll get the laughs.

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#5 Post by lost_whisper »

Bruce B wrote:A VERY old computer in this day and age is very RELATIVE.

I'm getting along fine with my dinosaur.

Will you please post the CPU, RAM and disk space? Don't worry, we won't
laugh. Anyway, if someone does, I'll tell them about my computer.

Then I'll get the laughs.

~
ok, you promised not to laugh!

I found this computer in the trash can some weeks ago, and I fell in love with it.

Hp Vectra 500

HD: 4gb
RAM:32 mb (I am trying to expand it a little, but I can't find SIMM cards anywhere!)
It was running Windows 98 SE, but now it doesn't seem to boot.

I know you will tell me I should try some pupplet, but the thing is that a friend of my gave me his puppy linux cd to try,and I really liked it.

I want this computer to run both on MS-DOS(to play old games) and linux.

I am asking for too much?

And thank you very much,guys.
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lost_whisper
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#7 Post by lost_whisper »

that's it.

Now what should I do?

I still haven't found any Simm to expand the RAM.
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#8 Post by vickyg2003 »

Hmm I found memory on my first google.

Is it really series 525 or did we guess at that. If so the memory for this seems to be a little high. It would take you 32 per bank, or $64 to bring you up to 128.

http://www.4allmemory.com/memory/compaq ... eries-525/

I just paid $11 to upgrade my old dog with 128MB. So I think this price is high, but it does show that the memory is availabe.
Bruce B

#9 Post by Bruce B »

You'll have to burn install CDs for what I'm suggesting.

If you need GUI, an old RedHat version, maybe 7.3

RedHat Archive

If you don't need GUI let me know.

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#10 Post by lost_whisper »

vickyg2003 wrote:Hmm I found memory on my first google.

Is it really series 525 or did we guess at that. If so the memory for this seems to be a little high. It would take you 32 per bank, or $64 to bring you up to 128.

http://www.4allmemory.com/memory/compaq ... eries-525/

I just paid $11 to upgrade my old dog with 128MB. So I think this price is high, but it does show that the memory is availabe.
Oh, thanks for searching.... The thing is that I'm in Argentina, more exactly in Buenos Aires. And the fact that I don't have a job at the moment doesn't help at all.

I asked a few friends if they had old memories in their homes, but I wasn't any lucky.
You'll have to burn install CDs for what I'm suggesting.
I'm going to need some friend's computer since this one I'm using is not exactly working as it should. But I will try it on.



(Thanks to everyone for helping)
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#11 Post by jfh »

We still don't know which version you are attempting to install.

I've run 3.x versions on that type of hardware so it can work.

This is what I would try.
Download and burn gparted. http://gparted.sourceforge.net/download.php Use it to create a swap partition 512mb to 1024mb. I'd go with the 1024mb myself. This will allow puppy to have somewhere to open to besides ram. Don't make a partition to install puppy to. Use the puppy cd to make the next partition.

Do a "full" installation to the rest of the hard drive. This means puppy wont have to run all in ram or swap. I've done many installs this way on similar hardware with no problems, 3x puppies that is. Little slow but it works.

The newer puppies may not have the drivers for your hardware, the kernels drop support for some older gear. It only takes a few minutes to do an install so try it anyway. While you are at your friends place download a 3x version and a 2x version. You can try them all to see what works and you will only have about an hour invested. Less than a Windows + updates install.

Edit: no matter which install you try frugal or full do the swap partition first.
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#12 Post by muggins »

This old thread might give you a few ideas:

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=15946
Dewbie

#13 Post by Dewbie »

lost_whisper wrote:
ok, you promised not to laugh!
I found this computer in the trash can some weeks ago, and I fell in love with it.
Laugh? Why?
For that, you deserve an Attaboy award!
OK, now...does anybody think one of these would work?
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#14 Post by Shep »

vickyg2003 wrote: the memory for this seems to be a little high. It would take you 32 per bank, or $64 to bring you up to 128.
OP might be able to chase up a laptop identical for parts. A 32 MB laptop like that would be going for a song. Who would be hanging onto something with only 32 MB of ram? People would be pleased to get rid of it.
jonyo

Re: Troubles installing puppy in a VERY old computer.

#15 Post by jonyo »

lost_whisper wrote:Hi,puppies!
my computer hasn't enough RAM even to execute the GUI.
had the same prob (gparted didn't work either) with 32 megs ram but 64 worked, this with 2-3x vers of pup

lowest cpu was 150MHz, dunno about 133 if that's what you have
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