taskbar mousover position

[Mmmm]

I like to have my taskbar hidden as I have a small screen. The problem is that the taskbar pops up when my mouse is a significant number of pixels above the top edge of the taskbar. This means that I cannot click on anything 'under' the taskbar.

Ideally I would like the taskbar to pop up only when the mouse cursor touches the bottom of the screen - Is this possible?

If not, is it at least possible to get closer to the bottom of the screen without the taskbar popping up?

[Béèm]

Always report the puppy version you use and in this case the windows manager used also.

[Mmmm]

Im using 5.25 with JWM

[CatDude]

Hello Mmmm

Welcome to the kennels.

..Ideally I would like the taskbar to pop up only when the mouse cursor touches the bottom of the screen - Is this possible?

I just made fresh frugal installs of Lupu-5.25 on two different machines:

• 1. Desktop with 22" widescreen monitor
  2. Laptop with 15" screen

and the default behaviour (in JWM with taskbar set to hidden) is exactly as you describe above,
ie: the cursor does touch the bottom of the screen before the taskbar pops up.

I have no idea why yours is behaving differently.

Sorry i cannot be more helpful
CatDude
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[Mmmm]

Try moving the mouse down towards the bottom of the screen ever so slowly, I'm sure you will find that the taskbar pops up long before you get to the bottom. In fact, even before you reach the taskbar area - This happens with pfix=ram (ie no pupsave file at all) on my machines...

[Bruce B]

Same as CatDude, it works fine for me.

The default layer priority for the task tray 8. Lupu 5.20 has it set on 11.

I tried a few combinations and now have it set at 3 which is less priority than a normal window and it still works.

If you want to experiment with this, the file to edit is ~/.jwmrc-tray

~

[Mmmm]

Well, this is really strange... Your taskbar doesn't pop up until you reach the very bottom of the screen? Why would mine be different without using a save file? I don't get it...

The default layer priority for the task tray 8. Lupu 5.20 has it set on 11

My ~/.jwmrc-tray file doesn't seem to have a setting for this (unless I just don't know what I'm looking for) I certainly can't find anything set to 11...

Here's my ~/.jwmrc-tray file, does it look ok?

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<JWM>
	<Tray  autohide="true" insert="right" x="0" y="-1" border="1" height="28" >

		<!-- Additional TrayButton attribute: label -->
		<TrayButton label="Menu" icon="mini-dog.xpm">root:3</TrayButton>

	<!--	<TrayButton popup="Run commandline" icon="gexec.xpm">exec:gexec</TrayButton> -->
		<TrayButton popup="Show Desktop" icon="mini-desktop.xpm">showdesktop</TrayButton>
		<TrayButton popup="Free space in drives" icon="mini-hdisk.xpm">exec:partview</TrayButton>
        <TrayButton popup="Choose Default Browser" icon="www24.png">exec:browser-default</TrayButton>
        
		<!-- Additional Pager attributes; width, height -->
		<Pager/>

		<!-- Additional TaskList attribute: maxwidth -->
		<TaskList/>

		<Dock/>

		<!-- Additional Swallow attribute: height -->

		<Swallow name="xload" width="32">
			xload -nolabel -bg "#888888" -fg red -hl white
		</Swallow>

		<Clock>minixcal</Clock>
	</Tray>
</JWM>

[CatDude]

Hi

..My ~/.jwmrc-tray file doesn't seem to have a setting for this (unless I just don't know what I'm looking for) I certainly can't find anything set to 11...

I suspect you would need to add something like this (change number to whatever you wish to try):

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layer="11"

to the line that looks like this:

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<Tray  autohide="true" insert="right" x="0" y="-1" border="1" height="28" >

so you end up with something like this:

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<Tray  layer="11" autohide="true" insert="right" x="0" y="-1" border="1" height="28" >

According to what it say's here: http://joewing.net/programs/jwm/config.shtml#trays
Valid values are between 0 and 12 inclusive.

Note:
I'm not sure if it matters where about on that line you place the layer="11"

CatDude
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[bigpup]

Mmmm,

Are you sure you are using JWM?
Puppy 5.2.5's default window manager is Openbox.
You have to change to JWM with the window manager switcher program.

What you describe is a known problem with Openbox.
JWM is suppose to work the way you are asking.

[Bruce B]

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<Tray  autohide="true" insert="right" x="0" y="-1" border="1" height="28" layer="5" >

I'm very sorry, I wasn't explicit enough. CatDude has example right. And 4 is normal for the open windows, 5 is one step above.

Remember, I can't duplicate the problem on my end, so this is only guess work.

I also wonder about the mouse resolution, do you find it very precise when doing fine work?

~

[Bruce B]

What you describe is a known problem with Openbox.
JWM is suppose to work the way you are asking.

That's using yer noggin. All the tweaking in JWM won't help if Mmmm isn't using it.

And if it is a known problem with Openbox. Let me put my thinking cap on.

That means it is a known problem with Openbox.

~

[Mmmm]

Well stone the crows, I don't believe it..... So I haven't been using JWM at all..... When did that change??? did that change???

Well I'm using JWM now and guess what? it works!!!

Thank you all for your help...You're great!

[bigpup]

Well stone the crows, I don't believe it..... So I haven't been using JWM at all..... When did that change??? did that change???

Well I'm using JWM now and guess what? it works!!!

Thank you all for your help...You're great!

Sometime around Puppy 5.1.1 or 5.2 they made Openbox default.
I tried to bring up the problem, several times, about putting two window managers and all of their tweaking programs in Lucid Puppy. You have no clue which one is operating, unless you just know or look in the Window Manager Switcher to see.
Openbox was made default because of better features at the time of developing Lucid Puppy. The problem you had, with hiding the taskbar, no one pointed out during development of Puppy 5.25. Only recently, has it been noticed.
As you state, it works OK in JWM.