IcePuppy-014 for newer and Ice Puppy-015 for older computers
Next ICE Pups
Seems STU90 updated UM. Will this be in the next round of ICE PUPs with PAE?
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So I looked in the different distro for radeon and concentrated on the so and .ko files. There is more then that as firmware.Béèm wrote:I did the test again in Lucid 5.2.5 and confirm I have the issue.pemasu wrote:Beem. Lucid 525 and Spup uses JWM 500 also, that I know. Hmm, it might be more than coincidence.
But my installation is the default one, so openbox/fbpanel. I don't use JWM in Lucid.
I did the test also in spup 1.2.0 to be sure.
Spup uses indeed JWM 500 as default.
But I don't have the issue in spup
In all cases, the graphics driver used is radeon.
What I could do next is to see if the radeon driver is the same in the (cold)puppy's, lucid and spup.
Still strange issue.
Following is the comparison:
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sh-4.1# ls -l radeon*
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 1006204 2011-06-15 17:02 radeon_drv.so-ice_015
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 1006204 2011-04-02 04:16 radeon_drv.so-lucid_525
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 1002348 2011-05-11 13:21 radeon_drv.so-spup_120
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 852682 2011-06-14 19:21 radeon.ko-ice_015
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 636809 2010-05-27 03:27 radeon.ko-lucid_525
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 706501 2010-07-06 14:29 radeon.ko-spup_120
sh-4.1#
The .ko files are different.
Don't know it this is relevant for the issue.
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AndrewG. you need to install aka compile the latest ati driver yourself. Nobody so far hasnt made pet for ati proprietary driver yet.
If you tried some unworking version, it would be good idea to uninstall it first.
Installation guide to install latest ati proprietary driver:
You need devx sfs and kernel source sfs, kernel source sfs needs to be lupe26, it is for Ice Puppy-015. See the first page for downloads.
http://www.smokey01.com/pemasu/IcePuppy ... pu_015.sfs
http://www.smokey01.com/pemasu/Kernel_s ... lupe26.sfs
Then you need to download latest ati installer package.
http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/Pages/index.aspx
Fill your specs and download latest installation package. Place it for example to /mnt/home.
Make the download exucutable if it is not. Right click the download > Properties, click all Exec ticks to enabled.
Then exit to the prompt and run in /mnt/home
when it has finished enter "aticonfig --initial" and then "xwin" to
get back to the desktop.
The ati driver gets updated fairly often so at least this way you get latest version.
I guoted Billtoos words in above installation guide.
I think I will in future make a link to this
The Nvidia driver for my Acer desktop gets updated even more often and
I use the same method on it.
If you tried some unworking version, it would be good idea to uninstall it first.
Installation guide to install latest ati proprietary driver:
You need devx sfs and kernel source sfs, kernel source sfs needs to be lupe26, it is for Ice Puppy-015. See the first page for downloads.
http://www.smokey01.com/pemasu/IcePuppy ... pu_015.sfs
http://www.smokey01.com/pemasu/Kernel_s ... lupe26.sfs
Then you need to download latest ati installer package.
http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/Pages/index.aspx
Fill your specs and download latest installation package. Place it for example to /mnt/home.
Make the download exucutable if it is not. Right click the download > Properties, click all Exec ticks to enabled.
Then exit to the prompt and run in /mnt/home
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cd /mnt/home
sh ati-driver-installer-11-2-x86.x86_64.run
when it has finished enter "aticonfig --initial" and then "xwin" to
get back to the desktop.
The ati driver gets updated fairly often so at least this way you get latest version.
I guoted Billtoos words in above installation guide.
I think I will in future make a link to this
The Nvidia driver for my Acer desktop gets updated even more often and
I use the same method on it.
Last edited by pemasu on Wed 22 Jun 2011, 17:07, edited 4 times in total.
Gcmartin. I have downloaded Stu90`s latest and greatest Umplayer offering. I havent tested it though. I will take now a little slower updating cycle. The summer in Finland is really short.
Sure it will be in next Ice Puppy and Snow Puppy also.
Beem. It is as it should. Radeon_drv.so should be same in Lucid Puppies, Snow Puppies ans Ice Puppies because they all use same Ubuntu Lucid Xorg packages.
Spup use different set of xorg packages. Dont try that spup version. It wont work.
Radeon.ko is different in all versions because it is kernel module and kernels are different in all your mentioned distros.
Sure it will be in next Ice Puppy and Snow Puppy also.
Beem. It is as it should. Radeon_drv.so should be same in Lucid Puppies, Snow Puppies ans Ice Puppies because they all use same Ubuntu Lucid Xorg packages.
Spup use different set of xorg packages. Dont try that spup version. It wont work.
Radeon.ko is different in all versions because it is kernel module and kernels are different in all your mentioned distros.
Ice Puppy 014 live pfix=ram.Sound and internet good on initial boot.....display is 1600x1200 instead of 1440x900 but useable.
Sat 25 Jun 2011 Operating System: Ice Puppy-014 Linux 2.6.38
0.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation Device 10c3 (rev a2)
oem: NVIDIA product: GT218 Board - 08740005 Chip Rev
X Server: Xorg Driver: vesa
X.Org version: 1.7.6
dimensions: 1600x1200 pixels (423x318 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes
direct rendering: Yes
server glx vendor string: SGI
server glx version string: 1.2
OpenGL vendor string: Mesa Project
OpenGL renderer string: Software Rasterizer
OpenGL version string: 2.1 Mesa 7.7.1
AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 5200+
Core 0: 2693 1: 2693 MHz
...the above also recorded at '/tmp/root/report-video-glx'.
sh-4.1# glxgears
1796 frames in 5.0 seconds
1918 frames in 5.0 seconds
1914 frames in 5.0 seconds
1898 frames in 5.0 seconds
1914 frames in 5.0 seconds
-Computer-
Processor : 2x AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 5200+
Memory : 4146MB (213MB used)
Operating System : Unknown distribution
User Name : root (root)
Date/Time : Sat 25 Jun 2011 08:40:28 PM CDT
-Display-
Resolution : 1600x1200 pixels
OpenGL Renderer : Software Rasterizer
X11 Vendor : The X.Org Foundation
-Multimedia-
Audio Adapter : HDA-Intel - HDA NVidia
Audio Adapter : HDA-Intel - HDA NVidia
# free
total used free shared buffers
Mem: 4146568 650264 3496304 0 73332
Swap: 4194300 0 4194300
Total: 8340868 650264 7690604
#
Sat 25 Jun 2011 Operating System: Ice Puppy-014 Linux 2.6.38
0.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation Device 10c3 (rev a2)
oem: NVIDIA product: GT218 Board - 08740005 Chip Rev
X Server: Xorg Driver: vesa
X.Org version: 1.7.6
dimensions: 1600x1200 pixels (423x318 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes
direct rendering: Yes
server glx vendor string: SGI
server glx version string: 1.2
OpenGL vendor string: Mesa Project
OpenGL renderer string: Software Rasterizer
OpenGL version string: 2.1 Mesa 7.7.1
AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 5200+
Core 0: 2693 1: 2693 MHz
...the above also recorded at '/tmp/root/report-video-glx'.
sh-4.1# glxgears
1796 frames in 5.0 seconds
1918 frames in 5.0 seconds
1914 frames in 5.0 seconds
1898 frames in 5.0 seconds
1914 frames in 5.0 seconds
-Computer-
Processor : 2x AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 5200+
Memory : 4146MB (213MB used)
Operating System : Unknown distribution
User Name : root (root)
Date/Time : Sat 25 Jun 2011 08:40:28 PM CDT
-Display-
Resolution : 1600x1200 pixels
OpenGL Renderer : Software Rasterizer
X11 Vendor : The X.Org Foundation
-Multimedia-
Audio Adapter : HDA-Intel - HDA NVidia
Audio Adapter : HDA-Intel - HDA NVidia
# free
total used free shared buffers
Mem: 4146568 650264 3496304 0 73332
Swap: 4194300 0 4194300
Total: 8340868 650264 7690604
#
rtl8192se realtek wifi
Running icepuppy 14 on asus 1201T netbook with Realtek rtl8192se wifi device. I have the following items running:
devx_lupu_014.sfs
kernel_src-2.6.38.4-lupe26.sfs
The wifi is still not included in the kernel here and most Linux'es are including it with later kernels. I can build it and install it.
Might want to include it in the kernel?
I MADE A PET FOR ANYONE WHO NEEDS IT.
Have been using this IcePuppy 14 for a while now. I am really pleased with it. Installed the ati driver and the cpu usage immediately dropped. Looks a lot like snowpuppy, which I have been using.
devx_lupu_014.sfs
kernel_src-2.6.38.4-lupe26.sfs
The wifi is still not included in the kernel here and most Linux'es are including it with later kernels. I can build it and install it.
Might want to include it in the kernel?
I MADE A PET FOR ANYONE WHO NEEDS IT.
Have been using this IcePuppy 14 for a while now. I am really pleased with it. Installed the ati driver and the cpu usage immediately dropped. Looks a lot like snowpuppy, which I have been using.
Last edited by bwh1969 on Fri 07 Oct 2011, 19:51, edited 2 times in total.
Not seeing a battery monitor in tray
I don't see a battery monitor in the jwm tray BUT I can add it to pwidgets and monitoring works correctly. Am I missing a package?
excellent
That did the trick! I didn't have to do this with snowpuppy. It was kind of a pain only having it with pwidgets because I could not see my battery status when running an app.
This is SUPER by the way and I appreciate the HIGHMEM feature.. I have a 64 bit processor and I had tried lighthouse and fatdog but the apps available are not as many and they are much slower to boot.
I figured out how to make a pet FOR MY BUILT WIFI DRIVER and when I unzip it, it looks correct and has the correct path. It is attached two posts up.
Install then do depmod-FULL -a
The -FULL part might not be needed anymore?
This is SUPER by the way and I appreciate the HIGHMEM feature.. I have a 64 bit processor and I had tried lighthouse and fatdog but the apps available are not as many and they are much slower to boot.
I figured out how to make a pet FOR MY BUILT WIFI DRIVER and when I unzip it, it looks correct and has the correct path. It is attached two posts up.
Install then do depmod-FULL -a
The -FULL part might not be needed anymore?
bwh1969. Nice that you got it working. There is problems with Vattery. The Vattery is quite old, newest version is from -2008. Thats why not all batteries are detected as working versions with vattery-ibam. Vattery-acpitool works always.
Vattery-ibam would be learning version when you drain battery almost empty several times. The battery time estimation should be better.
That is why I havent disabled it. But unfortunately quite many cant use it though due to defective battery detection.
Vattery-ibam would be learning version when you drain battery almost empty several times. The battery time estimation should be better.
That is why I havent disabled it. But unfortunately quite many cant use it though due to defective battery detection.
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Possibly here.
He has over 1000 pups....Ally
http://archive.org/details/puppylinux
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He has over 1000 pups....Ally
http://archive.org/details/puppylinux
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And welcome to Puppy.
Chris.
IcePuppy
Closest I can find is Ice Puppy 013 here at Archive.orgIndianScout wrote:where to download Ice Puppy 14, I've hunted all over and no file found, I'd really like to have it..
thanks..
https://ia601707.us.archive.org/31/item ... xIcePuppy/
keep watching may be posted here sometime otherwise PM Alley he posts stuff at Archive.org that is older Puppy Linux Downloads
I got the 013 from archives.org. I'd still like to try the 014-15, but don't see it anywhere I've looked. Was the name changed to something else?
Dell optiplex 780, Intel Core 2 Duo CPU E7500 @ 2.93GHz, 4g RAM, w/ATI RV620 LE Radeon HD 3450. Currently running a full install of Slacko 6.3.0 ( 32 bit version).
Thanks, ally. Downloading it now.
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Dell optiplex 780, Intel Core 2 Duo CPU E7500 @ 2.93GHz, 4g RAM, w/ATI RV620 LE Radeon HD 3450. Currently running a full install of Slacko 6.3.0 ( 32 bit version).