How to install Libreoffice in USB Flash drive Puppy?

[mich04]

Hi there,
I have been looking around, I have a 4gb flash drive with Puppy Linux qemu installed. I want to install libreoffice or openoffice cutdown, when ever I try to do this I get an error that there is not enough room to build the packages. Most of the computers I use have 1-3 gigs of ram Is there a way to increase the amount of resources available to Puppy Linux?

Also I noticed that the amount of "ram" allocated for programs started out at 110 and now is down to 108, does ram naturally decrease over time on a usb installation?

I can not use the hard drives on any of the computers that I am on. It has to be ram disk or the usb stick. Thanks

[bigpup]

Also I noticed that the amount of "ram" allocated for programs started out at 110 and now is down to 108, does ram naturally decrease over time on a usb installation?

What version of Puppy?
Where are you getting this information?
How big is the save file you are using?

[mich04]

Puppy Linux Version 2.17-1

Bottom right hand screen on the system tray of puppys desktop. It stopped going down so I just assume it wrote some extra information for configuration.

The size of my file is 128,
I would like to increase it, but when I go into utility's, and select the "increase personal file size" command it does not launch anything,

[darkcity]

In most puppies the personal pup save file won't resize until reboot.

1) Selected how much you want to increase the size by

2) then reboot

any joy?

[sfeeley]

See below for a big caveat:

Bottom right hand screen on the system tray of puppys desktop. It stopped going down so I just assume it wrote some extra information for configuration.

99% of the time this does not indicate ram. Rather it indicates the size and remaining space in your save file (if you are running in pfix=ram it might indicate ram, but I don't think thats your case).

it looks like you are running out of room in your save file to put the open office install.

2 possible solutions:
1) I suspect you are using a .pet to install oo. Can you use a .sfs version instead? This should end up going outside of your save file, circumventing your problem

2) other possible solution: enlarge your save file. I've not done this, but, I think ordinarily the save file cannot be in use when you enlarge it --especially on older puppies (which is probably why your previous efforts failed). Ordinarily the solution to this is at boot to hit f2 to get boot options and then type

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puppy pfix=ram

this will give a clean install that works without your savefile, so that you can modify it. When you shut down, it will ask if you want a new save file, click no.

The big caveat: I've never used qemu puppy (although it looks cool!) since it runs in its own emulator, I don't know if the steps I outlined above would work. IN which case, I apologize for possibly misleading you

[sfeeley]

I just looked up

http://www.erikveen.dds.nl/qemupuppy/

if you scroll down to 6.2 it gives info for how to enlarge the save file

[mich04]

I really should have titled this post differently,
So I had read http://www.erikveen.dds.nl/qemupuppy/ before, and saw the commands

$ dd if=/dev/zero of=pup_save.3fs bs=1k count=800
$ mkfs.ext3 pup_save.3fs

I have increased the size of pup_save.3fs to 500 MB, but this did not increase the ram disk, which still sits at 122 MB. I had tried to compile it again with pet manager, but it still gave me the same error.

I was going to try the .sfs version, but I believe that qemu is being very buggy.

When ever I try to open sea monkey, it will stay open for about 10-20 seconds, but than it will randomly shrink it to a bar or randomly close.

I thought well I will just open up internet explorer in windows and research. The windows in XP keep scrolling all the way to the top randomly. As I was trying to read this post it kept scrolling to the top of the page.

I can take care of the problem by restarting my computer, but as soon as I boot puppy from my usb things just start to act funny. Should I make a new post about this? What should I do it feels like a bug to me. At this point until these crazy things stop puppy is unusable to me.

I am running xorg instead of xversa, I tried to switch, but it pops up a menu telling me I need to use the wizard....which is what I am using...

Edit: I mean the "ramdisk" not actual ram, but what you were saying earlier with the save file.

[mich04]

Problems solved, as far as the bugginess. I moved to a new computer switched to xversa and I went to 16 bit color. Now everything is running great. I do not think I am going to be able to get warzone2100 on here. Maybe I should design a distro that only plays that game. :p

Ok can you direct me to the sfs pacakges. I tried to install opera and it would not let me. (just to try a smaller package)

Edit: My idea behind using this puppy is to present it to a classroom of peers to show what linux is...

[sfeeley]

dit: My idea behind using this puppy Wink is to present it to a classroom of peers to show what linux is...

Fyi: the version of puppy that you are using Puppy Linux qemu, is a variant based on an extremely old version of puppy (2.17).

Bad News: quemu puppy which runs from inside its own virtual qemu computer hasn't really been replicated to the best of my knowledge. Although it may have been updated a bit-- see the end of this thread
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 7&start=45

Good news: if your goal is to have an easy to use puppy linux that you can show your class, any puppy can run from a flash drive or a CD/DVD. The one difference, you will have to shut down the computer first and boot from that device (and the computer must be capable of booting from a flash drive -- most modern computers are, but the bios settings might need to be tweaked).

My recommendation-- burn a CD. Bring to class. Stick it in the computer. Turn it on, and wow them with puppy linux.
Better yet-- burn extra copies and give them out.
Tip: test on the computer before the presentation

Ok can you direct me to the sfs pacakges.

you can find the the sfs for open office here.
http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/dis ... modules-2/

It may infact be that you are hitting ram issues (despite what I said earlier). One possible solution might be to make a swap file or swap partition (which acts as additional extra ram) Hopefully somebody wiser can step in here-- I'm not much more than a newb

[mich04]

Well that was a thought if I was going to do that I would have just threw my Arch Linux system on there it has openbox and wbar , but I am in a distance learning class and they run the video and sound through the computer...It's ok I new that 2.17 was pretty old.....I will figure something out it is actually running pretty good. I was working on getting openbox on there right now with wbar, I had to down load some libs, I am not sure why

Now what do you think about section 8.2 in this http://www.erikveen.dds.nl/qemupuppy/#8.2.0? I would be willing to try to make a new puppy version work in this matter. I have really enjoyed being able to be on linux while I am at school. I am just trying to keep my head low from the tech department.

[sfeeley]

I suspect you would get a lot of interest in that over at "puppy derivatives" section of the forum. And probably good suggestions.

I love the idea of a plug in puppy that would potentially run on computers at my local university library. But development is above my pay-grade and level of knowledge

good luck!