no sound with new pc intel 6 series / C200 chipset
Hi Pelo, do you have the intel 6 / C200 chipset?
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I've browsed some ubuntu forums and it looks like the newer kernel definitely helps with this chipset - not sure why 5.25 would work though?
there's a big sound trouble shooting guide for Ubuntu - lots of stuff is obvious or not applicable to Puppy , but there may be some handy hints, see https://docs.google.com/document/d/1iTl ... edit?pli=1
I'm assuming that the aplay -l command returns no playback devices for the folk who have no sound?
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I've browsed some ubuntu forums and it looks like the newer kernel definitely helps with this chipset - not sure why 5.25 would work though?
there's a big sound trouble shooting guide for Ubuntu - lots of stuff is obvious or not applicable to Puppy , but there may be some handy hints, see https://docs.google.com/document/d/1iTl ... edit?pli=1
I'm assuming that the aplay -l command returns no playback devices for the folk who have no sound?
I did read that Ubuntu guide earlier when I was trying to get 5.28 to work -- had already used Ubuntu forum discussion to finally get the wireless working (required updating the ath9k driver module via compat)darkcity wrote:Hi Pelo, do you have the intel 6 / C200 chipset?
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I've browsed some ubuntu forums and it looks like the newer kernel definitely helps with this chipset - not sure why 5.25 would work though?
there's a big sound trouble shooting guide for Ubuntu - lots of stuff is obvious or not applicable to Puppy , but there may be some handy hints, see https://docs.google.com/document/d/1iTl ... edit?pli=1
I'm assuming that the aplay -l command returns no playback devices for the folk who have no sound?
I will try aplay -l in 528 on this machine as soon as I reboot to 528 (it will be a little while because I'm in the middle of an ISO download I don't want to interrupt)
But in the meantime, I can give you the results of aplay -l from Racy 53 (which I'm on now, and which does support this computer's sound)
it's:
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# aplay -l
**** List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices ****
card 0: PCH [HDA Intel PCH], device 0: ALC271X Analog [ALC271X Analog]
Subdevices: 1/1
Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 0: PCH [HDA Intel PCH], device 3: HDMI 0 [HDMI 0]
Subdevices: 1/1
Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
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So far, Sound works in three 3.x kernel puppies:
Racy
Sulu
Upup Precise 5332
Wish it worked in Lupu 5.28 since it is mature and very well supported with software rather than a test puppy as the others are by comparison. I want a Puppy I can work in day-to-day.
Racy
Sulu
Upup Precise 5332
Wish it worked in Lupu 5.28 since it is mature and very well supported with software rather than a test puppy as the others are by comparison. I want a Puppy I can work in day-to-day.
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Sound with 528 on all computers
These distros 528 and 525 could have been fine, but what to do with a computer with no sound ?
I remember once having succeeded in repairing. But How ?
Is my english good ? I put these distros in trash ! Oldest were working better.
Try others ( Slacko, Dpup, Toutou, no problems, TeenPUp, etc...)
But LUCID, no ! I give up.
Bonne nuit. Pelo
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I remember once having succeeded in repairing. But How ?
Is my english good ? I put these distros in trash ! Oldest were working better.
Try others ( Slacko, Dpup, Toutou, no problems, TeenPUp, etc...)
But LUCID, no ! I give up.
Bonne nuit. Pelo
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well, looks like Upup Precise has just been abandoned today, and no one will support Sulu.
That leaves Racy.
I guess as more people find their old machines giving up the ghost (as mine have -- some after 12 years of hard use) more people will have to find solutions to the requirements of more recent hardware to keep Puppy Linux going. The 3.x kernel software will be the only option unless solutions are found for basic problems in 2.6.x kernel puppies, like upgrading sound or wireless modules to use newer hardware.
Many of us are not trying to be "cutting edge" in hardware, but simply buying low cost versions of what's available. A good laptop computer is now less than $350 new, with 4 gigs ram, and 320 Gb drive. That is for dual proc, and integrated sound and video, often Intel.
Working with machines like these will be an increasing need for Puppy, if it is to survive. These are everyday low end computers, now. Sound and wireless module upgrades would open up many older kernel puppies to these new machines, rather than restricting their users to experimental, frequently abandoned late kernel rewrites.
It's unfortunate that Puppy, once a relatively unified distro, which sought to adapt and adopt to both old and new hardware now has become a bunch of splinter distros with specialized concerns scattered resources, no unified vision, and an average lifetime of days to months.
It is understandable that no one person can shoulder the burden of maintaining and upgrading a distro for very long, it really does require a community and unified leadership, as well as a commitment to a particular vision.
Puplets have always been around, but they were offshoots of the main trunk of the tree. Now the tree is gone and there is just a bush of short-lived shoots to mark where it's been.
I suppose anybody can build a Puppy from Woof, now. Kinda like nailing pieces of framing lumber together into something that looks like a house.
But nothing you can live in without a couple years work installing stairs, windows, wiring, plumbing, roofing, heating, and everything else by hand. That is, making things work together as a home for the different requirements of a family, not just leaving it as a simple open framework. Providing support, solving problems, tracking and killing bugs, updating software and modules.
That work is all hand work, not Woof automation, and no one person can do it alone. Repeating that same amount of work across 10 different Woof builds dilutes the community so that no distro works adequately for the majority of users.
Instead we have suggestions when something doesn't work to "try distro x" as a solution. Maybe that works for one problem but creates others. Especially when the originator gets fed up with requests to solve too many problems for his or her available time, and calls it quits. Then where do you go?
That leaves Racy.
I guess as more people find their old machines giving up the ghost (as mine have -- some after 12 years of hard use) more people will have to find solutions to the requirements of more recent hardware to keep Puppy Linux going. The 3.x kernel software will be the only option unless solutions are found for basic problems in 2.6.x kernel puppies, like upgrading sound or wireless modules to use newer hardware.
Many of us are not trying to be "cutting edge" in hardware, but simply buying low cost versions of what's available. A good laptop computer is now less than $350 new, with 4 gigs ram, and 320 Gb drive. That is for dual proc, and integrated sound and video, often Intel.
Working with machines like these will be an increasing need for Puppy, if it is to survive. These are everyday low end computers, now. Sound and wireless module upgrades would open up many older kernel puppies to these new machines, rather than restricting their users to experimental, frequently abandoned late kernel rewrites.
It's unfortunate that Puppy, once a relatively unified distro, which sought to adapt and adopt to both old and new hardware now has become a bunch of splinter distros with specialized concerns scattered resources, no unified vision, and an average lifetime of days to months.
It is understandable that no one person can shoulder the burden of maintaining and upgrading a distro for very long, it really does require a community and unified leadership, as well as a commitment to a particular vision.
Puplets have always been around, but they were offshoots of the main trunk of the tree. Now the tree is gone and there is just a bush of short-lived shoots to mark where it's been.
I suppose anybody can build a Puppy from Woof, now. Kinda like nailing pieces of framing lumber together into something that looks like a house.
But nothing you can live in without a couple years work installing stairs, windows, wiring, plumbing, roofing, heating, and everything else by hand. That is, making things work together as a home for the different requirements of a family, not just leaving it as a simple open framework. Providing support, solving problems, tracking and killing bugs, updating software and modules.
That work is all hand work, not Woof automation, and no one person can do it alone. Repeating that same amount of work across 10 different Woof builds dilutes the community so that no distro works adequately for the majority of users.
Instead we have suggestions when something doesn't work to "try distro x" as a solution. Maybe that works for one problem but creates others. Especially when the originator gets fed up with requests to solve too many problems for his or her available time, and calls it quits. Then where do you go?
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Back to the problem with audio
Let's try Ubuntu's troubleshooting procedure
okay, so now the Ubuntu user is supposed to:
but of course:
Let's try Ubuntu's troubleshooting procedure
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sh-4.1# aplay -l
aplay: device_list:240: no soundcards found...
sh-4.1# echo "Sound cards recognized by the system:"; lspci -nn | grep --color=none '\[04[80][13]\]'; echo "Sound cards recognized by ALSA:"; lspci -nn | grep '\[04[80][13]\]' | while read line; do lspci -nnk | grep -A 3 '\[04[80][13]\]' | grep -e 'Kernel modules: ..*' -e '\[04[80][13]\]' | grep --color=none -F "$line"; done; echo "Sound cards recognized by ALSA, and activated:"; lspci -nn | grep '\[04[80][13]\]' | while read line; do lspci -nnk | grep -A 3 '\[04[80][13]\]' | grep -e 'Kernel drivers in use: ..*' -e '\[04[80][13]\]' | grep --color=none -F "$line"; done
Sound cards recognized by the system:
00:1b.0 Audio device [0403]: Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family High Definition Audio Controller [8086:1c20] (rev 05)
Sound cards recognized by ALSA:
00:1b.0 Audio device [0403]: Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family High Definition Audio Controller [8086:1c20] (rev 05)
Sound cards recognized by ALSA, and activated:
00:1b.0 Audio device [0403]: Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family High Definition Audio Controller [8086:1c20] (rev 05)
sh-4.1# aplay -l
aplay: device_list:240: no soundcards found...
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usermod -aG `cat /etc/group | grep -e '^pulse:' -e '^audio:' -e '^pulse-access:' -e '^pulse-rt:' -e '^video:' | awk -F: '{print $1}' | tr '\n' ',' | sed 's:,$::g'` `whoami`
but of course:
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sh: usermod: command not found
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I have no idea what that command is supposed to do, but as a guess it is doing something with the user's account, and adding groups somehow related to pulse audio which is probably just something applicable to Ubuntu and not Puppy.
But if any coders happen to read this, please let me know what this does, whether I need to do something similar, etc.
bleh....
But if any coders happen to read this, please let me know what this does, whether I need to do something similar, etc.
bleh....
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Lupu 528 -v5 sound does not work:
Racy 53 sound does work:
Sulu sound does work:
UPUP Precise sound does work:
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sh-4.1# cat /proc/asound/version
Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 1.0.21.
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# cat /proc/asound/version
Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 1.0.24.
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sh-4.1# cat /proc/asound/version
Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 1.0.24.
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# cat /proc/asound/version
Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 1.0.24.
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Let them a chance to listen music
Hello! Now that i have slept and i am cool !
I am using lucid 520 at the moment :
I am using lucid 520 at the moment :
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Pelo, please run this in a terminal window and post the output:
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echo "Sound cards recognized by the system:"; lspci -nn | grep --color=none '\[04[80][13]\]'; echo "Sound cards recognized by ALSA:"; lspci -nn | grep '\[04[80][13]\]' | while read line; do lspci -nnk | grep -A 3 '\[04[80][13]\]' | grep -e 'Kernel modules: ..*' -e '\[04[80][13]\]' | grep --color=none -F "$line"; done; echo "Sound cards recognized by ALSA, and activated:"; lspci -nn | grep '\[04[80][13]\]' | while read line; do lspci -nnk | grep -A 3 '\[04[80][13]\]' | grep -e 'Kernel drivers in use: ..*' -e '\[04[80][13]\]' | grep --color=none -F "$line"; done
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I ran into some wireless issues with 5.2.5. I was able to solve 99% of them by installing, and using Frisbee.vtpup wrote:re. 5.25......5.28 Lucid caused problems with wirelesss (card unrecognized) as have all puppies I've tried prior to a 3.xkernel version. I doubt 5.25 will address the wireless problem, but I may try it out of curiosity to just check sound support. If it works it could point to the culprit in 5.28.
Now, every few days, the system loses the capability to find the wireless networks in the immediate area. A simple reboot solves that problem.
[b]ir[/b]
Audio Adapters:darkcity wrote:It could be instructive to know what audio hardware is in the computers with no sound or disappearing sound.
if it is the same chipset as vtpup and mbiernat it might be worth them trying 5.25
Dell Netbook: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel MID
Dell Latitude D400 laptop: ICH4 - Intel 82801DB-ICH4
I hope that helps.
Cheers,
[b]ir[/b]
I believe that the so-called lupu 525 "fix" may be completely unrelated and irrelevant because it does not appear to apply to the sound chips referenced in the title of this forum thread.
People, if you do not have an Intel 6 series / C200 chipset, please do not post your own computer sound problems and/or solutions here. It is only confusing the issue.
The basic problem with these chips as I've just shown is that they are too new for older Asound drivers.
If you have older chips, what works for you will not work for these chips.
People, if you do not have an Intel 6 series / C200 chipset, please do not post your own computer sound problems and/or solutions here. It is only confusing the issue.
The basic problem with these chips as I've just shown is that they are too new for older Asound drivers.
If you have older chips, what works for you will not work for these chips.
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Interesting that 5.28 still has ALSA 1.0.21 - is it possible to upgrade ALSA without upgrading the 2.6.33.2 kernel?
There are two more choices for Lucid type Puppies with newer kernels-
Polarpup 005 - kernel 2.6.39.3, ALSA 1.0.24 http://puppylinux.org/wikka/Polarpup
and
Threeheaded dog 5.29 - Kernel 2.6.37.6, ALSA 1.0.23 http://puppylinux.org/wikka/puppy529
There are two more choices for Lucid type Puppies with newer kernels-
Polarpup 005 - kernel 2.6.39.3, ALSA 1.0.24 http://puppylinux.org/wikka/Polarpup
and
Threeheaded dog 5.29 - Kernel 2.6.37.6, ALSA 1.0.23 http://puppylinux.org/wikka/puppy529
Darkcity, here is an Ubuntu script for upgrade of Asound:
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1681577
I ran it but got stuck at compile time when it complained that I didn't have full kernel headers.
However I had installed devx and kernel headers .sfs So I was stuck at that point -- not sure why it should error.
Tough to be so close, yet so far on Lupu 528. I've put my results on the lupu 528 thread.
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1681577
I ran it but got stuck at compile time when it complained that I didn't have full kernel headers.
However I had installed devx and kernel headers .sfs So I was stuck at that point -- not sure why it should error.
Tough to be so close, yet so far on Lupu 528. I've put my results on the lupu 528 thread.
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Medion P7624 Intel corp 6 chipset family
Lot of problems with LUCID Distros : sound does work at all or when it works, it is weak. The dog does not bark at start-up !
If that can help you, i join screenshots of what happen
I really hope you will find how to solve the problem.
Have a nice sunday. Pelo.
If that can help you, i join screenshots of what happen
I really hope you will find how to solve the problem.
Have a nice sunday. Pelo.
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Pelo you are wasting your time if you don't answer questions asked of you here. You have failed to indicate what sound chips you have. You have not run the requested commands, nor posted the results.
If you are not using Intel 6 series /c200 sound chips, none of your complaints should be in this thread. Nor will you get any resolution for your problems here.
If you are not using Intel 6 series /c200 sound chips, none of your complaints should be in this thread. Nor will you get any resolution for your problems here.
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