Lucid Puppy 5.2.8 - Updated ISO Version 005 - APR 05 2012

[otropogo]

One concern I have about these automatic upgrades is that in the past, I've lost all my passwords and had to reconstitute them. More rarely, my bookmarks have been lost in the course of one of these upgrades too.

And they definitely are automatic. I remember quite clearly creating a directory, saving the 2.1 release notes and uninstall_install pages, then clicking on the download tab, seeing the browser's options to open the archive and choosing instead to save the file to disk.

And indeed, the archive is in the new directory, unopened, with the two html pages. No prompt to install the new version ever displayed on my system, yet here it is...

Help/About Seamonkey displays:

Seamonkey


version 2.10




You are currently on the release update channel.

Ouch! Have just discovered the explanation. Sometime in September or earlier (the updates history in Preferences/advanced/installation ends there), when I was still running Lucid 5.2.8_x, there was a security update 2.4.1.

...

I've now unchecked the add-on 'download and install' options, and also the
update ones, but left the option to 'check daily' for updates checked.

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Have just discovered that unchecking:

Preferences/advanced/sofware installation/Seamonkey/Automatically download and install updates

will NOT prevent Seamonkey from automatically downloading and updating itself.

Here's what happened today. I went online with Seamonkey, and while I was in Google mail, it popped up a new page and announced that an update was available.

While I was trying to read the page, the screen went black, and when I hit the space bar in order to bring back the display, the page said that the Seamonkey update had been downloaded and would be installed when I restarted Seamonkey. I could see no option to cancel.

So it's not clear to me what checking or unchecking this option is supposed to accomplish. I had hoped to at least be able to save my passwords before the update was installed, but don't like to do this while online. I guess the only solution is to shut off the internet connection mechanically when this message appears, then make a copy of the passwords before reconnecting restarting the browser.

But to be sure to avoid having the update automatically installed, it appears you have to uncheck the "automatically check for updates" option.

[bigpup]

otropogo,

Are you by any chance using more than one user profile in Seamonkey? I read a statement that said the preference settings where for specific user profiles. Each one had to have preferences setup specific to it.

[otropogo]

otropogo,

Are you by any chance using more than one user profile in Seamonkey? I read a statement that said the preference settings where for specific user profiles. Each one had to have preferences setup specific to it.

Not that I know of. I don't recall ever creating one.

How would you tell if you had more than one user profile?

But even if there were more than one user profile, surely you couldn't have one that allows automatic updates, and a second that doesn't. How would that work? Each user would have to have his own browser and they'd end up with different versions.

[bigpup]

I am not sure how user profiles would effect auto update. Just something to consider. Did not look that deep into Seamonkey documentation to see.
You would think that what ever update to Seamonkey was done, it would be for Seamonkey in general.
Just an idea, that maybe, all user profiles had to have auto update turned off for it to not work.
User profiles is found under tools->switch profile and tools->switch profile->manage profiles button.

[rcrsn51]

Epdfview 0.1.7 in Lupu does a poor job of rendering some scanned documents. As an example, download the attached "scanner.pdf.gz", remove the dummy .gz extension and open it in Epdfview.

Then install the attached epdfview_lupu-0.1.8.pet and repeat.

[kevin bowers]

Epdfview 0.1.7 in Lupu does a poor job of rendering some scanned documents. As an example, download the attached "scanner.pdf.gz", remove the dummy .gz extension and open it in Epdfview.

Then install the attached epdfview_lupu-0.1.8.pet and repeat.

Certainly much better, but not as sharp as the page looks as it comes out of a decent printer. What resolution did you scan it with?

[greengeek]

Then install the attached epdfview_lupu-0.1.8.pet and repeat.

Excellent; that makes a huge difference. Thanks. I spent hours last weekend scanning CV documents and was really not happy with the outcome. Now I see the docs are actually fine after all.

[rcrsn51]

Certainly much better, but not as sharp as the page looks as it comes out of a decent printer.

That's comparing apples to oranges. The true test is to print the PDF and compare to the original document.

What resolution did you scan it with?

300dpi.

I spent hours last weekend scanning CV documents and was really not happy with the outcome. Now I see the docs are actually fine after all.

Same here. In fact, I could convert the PDF back into a graphic and all the resolution was still there.

[otropogo]

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User profiles is found under tools->switch profile and tools->switch profile->manage profiles button.

Thanks,

Nothing there though to explain the unruly autoinstall behavior. There's only one profile listed - 'default'.

I found something rather more unsettling yesterday though.

For some years now I've had Seamonkey set to delete browsing history when shutting down, as well as most other residues of online activity.

So I was dumbfounded when I happened to open the tab:

Tools/Data Manager

to see a list of domains that seems to include most, if not all, of the sites I've visited over the past several years!

At the bottom of the page I see a "remove" tab, but it's greyed out.

What use is clearing your history if every domain you've visited is shown and can't be removed?

Do other browsers have this same function?

[greengeek]

So I was dumbfounded when I happened to open the tab:

Tools/Data Manager

to see a list of domains that seems to include most, if not all, of the sites I've visited over the past several years!

Thanks for the tip. I just checked the data manager and can see the same massive history stored there.

So I then went to Tools / Clear private data and ticked every possible box and cleared them all, then went back into data manager and everything was gone, except there was an entry for “getpersonas.com

[nooby]

So this is SeaMonkey. Can one find same such directory
in FireFox too? If one have both SM and FF would then SM
save such info even if one only used FF and never activated
SM? I mean both being mozilla. Maybe I am too naive.

[greengeek]

At the bottom of the page I see a "remove" tab, but it's greyed out.

What use is clearing your history if every domain you've visited is shown and can't be removed?

I just looked at a different version of Seamonkey in my Slacko install, and tried to get rid of the data manager domain list by ticking the "clear private data" boxes one at a time. Each tick box would get rid of SOME of the listed domains, but even combining ALL of the tickboxes did not get rid of all the sites from the data manager list.

Then I found I can right-click those domain names in the data manager list, and it allows me to "forget about this domain" and implies that the info is stored because of "content preferences" that lets Seamonkey remember "zoom levels for each site" etc etc.

As you say, this is rather unsettling.

[futwerk]

a few backgrounds.

[otropogo]

At the bottom of the page I see a "remove" tab, but it's greyed out.

What use is clearing your history if every domain you've visited is shown and can't be removed?

I just looked at a different version of Seamonkey in my Slacko install, and tried to get rid of the data manager domain list by ticking the "clear private data" boxes one at a time. Each tick box would get rid of SOME of the listed domains, but even combining ALL of the tickboxes did not get rid of all the sites from the data manager list.

Then I found I can right-click those domain names in the data manager list, and it allows me to "forget about this domain" and implies that the info is stored because of "content preferences" that lets Seamonkey remember "zoom levels for each site" etc etc.

As you say, this is rather unsettling.

I've been running with every box but one ticked in the "clear private data" menu, and yet I've got over five hundred domain names still listed in data manager. That's a lot of clicking to "forget" until the next time.

Because as soon as you go back to one of the domains you've clicked "forget', it's back on the list...

[greengeek]

I've been running with every box but one ticked in the "clear private data" menu, and yet I've got over five hundred domain names still listed in data manager. That's a lot of clicking to "forget" until the next time. Because as soon as you go back to one of the domains you've clicked "forget', it's back on the list...

Yes, it's rather disturbing that the domains appear on the list without any user intervention requesting special "remembering" of anything to do with that domain. I understand if a cookie gets "remembered" - at least I can clear those (or set the browser to reject all cookies anyway). But who decided that these domains should be retained in Data Manager?????

I'm glad you uncovered this flaw. Googling "data manager" suggests that early Seamonkeys should be free of this issue.

[ETP]

Otropogo/Greengeek

FYI both Chrome & Chromium retain page level zoom info even when the cache etc are cleared. This of course means that they retain data on both domains & pages visited.
IE8 seems o/k but I suspect that this is common with modern browsers.

For anyone wanting to test their browser:

1. Copy the address at the top of this page then zoom in to an insane level.
2. Take whatever action is necessary to clear the cache/history/cookies etc in your browser & then exit it.
3. Re-launch your browser and paste the address you copied into the address bar and visit it. If it is still large data is being retained and computer forensic scientists can rest easy in their beds.

(This is getting a bit off topic)

[greengeek]

a few backgrounds.

Hi futwerk, I downloaded the third one of these backgrounds and used mtPaint to "invert" the colours. It looked really neat, and might be handy when icons are harder to see against a dark background.

[goolwa_pup]

Hi All

Is there a way to enable force feedback for steering wheels in puppy 528. I am running grand prix legends through wine version 1.5 (plays very well btw) but there is no force feedback available through my logitech momo wheel. Can puppy be tickled into giving force feedback?

Cheers

[nooby]

When I try to run MakeHuman program which is a Debian .deb
then it complain I miss this:
sh-4.1# /makehuman: error while loading shared libraries: libGLEW.so.1.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory

so I maybe need this then libGLEW.so.1.5

what could that be about?

[playdayz]

sh-4.1# /makehuman: error while loading shared libraries: libGLEW.so.1.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory

so I maybe need this then libGLEW.so.1.5

You could get libGLEW 1.5 for Lucid from here. http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/libglew1.5

This is for GL so Xorg_High or a proprietary video driver would need to be installed (I am pretty sure anyway).