Understanding swap partitions - SOLVED!

[RetroTechGuy]

Yes, similar to what I posted. Looks like you're using some swap as well. Check out info for the browser though, which includes CPU usage. I think the kernel will take what it needs from the cache anyway, so probably it's unnecessary to clean it ? It certainly doesn't restore resources the way restarting the browser does.

Mine doesn't seem to pound the CPU too badly, it just gobbles RAM... Here is top, sorted for memory:

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26730  5756 root     S     436m  46%   0   6% firefox
 5648  5647 root     S <   158m  17%   0   2% X :0 -br -nolisten tcp
28126 26730 root     R    85236   9%   0  11% /initrd/pup_ro4/opt/firefox-16.0.2/plugin-container /usr/
 5756     1 root     S    40380   4%   0   0% /usr/local/apps/ROX-Filer/ROX-Filer -p /root/Choices/ROX-
27396  5756 root     S    30648   3%   0   0% geany
10604  5756 root     S    29680   3%   0   0% roxterm
 6458     1 root     S    18352   2%   0   0% fbpanel

I just ran my cache cleaner

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 Initial free space
              total         used         free       shared      buffers
  Mem:       969868       757472       212396            0        60548
 Swap:      1228964         2780      1226184
Total:      2198832       760252      1438580

 clearing cache

 Final free space
              total         used         free       shared      buffers
  Mem:       969868       310924       658944            0          576
 Swap:      1228964         2780      1226184
Total:      2198832       313704      1885128

Top still shows it simmering at about 448MB RAM . Apparently "free" and "top" compute memory differently...

[jpeps]

You can get rid of the plugin container.

Mine doesn't seem to pound the CPU too badly, it just gobbles RAM... Here is top, sorted for memory:

I loaded it up for testing. Restart clears it (also gives back additional ram beyond clearing the cache). You might have a more powerful CPU.

[RetroTechGuy]

You can get rid of the plugin container.

Mine doesn't seem to pound the CPU too badly, it just gobbles RAM... Here is top, sorted for memory:

I loaded it up for testing. Restart clears it (also gives back additional ram beyond clearing the cache). You might have a more powerful CPU.

Yeah, I'm running an Athlon 2200. But when the RAM gets full, she's "toast"...

[jpeps]

Yeah, I'm running an Athlon 2200. But when the RAM gets full, she's "toast"...

Nothing any of us will need to worry about for much longer. A cheap replacement for my Dell Inspiron costs $399, retail. It's available only with 64 bit, and comes with a minimum of 4 gigs SDRAM with a 500 gig hard drive. This is just a basic starter machine for doing your homework on before you have a real job.

[rjbrewer]

You can get rid of the plugin container.

Mine doesn't seem to pound the CPU too badly, it just gobbles RAM... Here is top, sorted for memory:

I loaded it up for testing. Restart clears it (also gives back additional ram beyond clearing the cache). You might have a more powerful CPU.

Yeah, I'm running an Athlon 2200. But when the RAM gets full, she's "toast"...

Running a pc with Athlon 2200, 1Gb ram, youtube vids crash every time with or without swap.

My old Inspiron 700m (1.6Ghz) 1Gb ram, runs great;
no swap needed.

I use Htop to watch ram and cpu usage.

[jpeps]

Running a pc with Athlon 2200, 1Gb ram, youtube vids crash every time with or without swap.

My old Inspiron 700m (1.6Ghz) 1Gb ram, runs great;
no swap needed.

For how long?

[rjbrewer]

Running a pc with Athlon 2200, 1Gb ram, youtube vids crash every time with or without swap.

My old Inspiron 700m (1.6Ghz) 1Gb ram, runs great;
no swap needed.

For how long?

I use full installs.
700m has been running 3+ days.
Using Wary5.3, Seamonkey 2.61
It does not accumulate ram use over time.
Running streaming Youtube video, a video file, radio stream
and murga forum at same time, ram use is under 400mb
according to htop.
Cpu can max to 100% without slowing the vids or
overheating.

[jpeps]

700m has been running 3+ days.
Using Wary5.3, Seamonkey 2.61
It does not accumulate ram use over time.
Running streaming Youtube video, a video file, radio stream
and murga forum at same time, ram use is under 400mb
according to htop.
Cpu can max to 100% without slowing the vids or
overheating.

Well, if you're up to 400mb and 100% CPU usage, there's not much more your computer can handle. Try some tests like opening about 20 tabs, or running some programs like Open Office (above, I ran 70 instances of java jars to watch swap management). UTubes are pretty user friendly. I test with some Vanguard webcasts that tend to stall midway through without the right setup.

[RetroTechGuy]

You can get rid of the plugin container.

BTW, I missed this. What does that mean?

I'm running FF as a .sfs (which helped my frugal save file space a lot).

[RetroTechGuy]

Yeah, I'm running an Athlon 2200. But when the RAM gets full, she's "toast"...

Running a pc with Athlon 2200, 1Gb ram, youtube vids crash every time with or without swap.

My old Inspiron 700m (1.6Ghz) 1Gb ram, runs great;
no swap needed.

I use Htop to watch ram and cpu usage.

Is it possible that you have a bad RAM stick? Perhaps when FF (and Youtube) try to consume all your memory, you hit the bad spot and it pukes. Otherwise you don't run into it...

[jpeps]

You can get rid of the plugin container.

BTW, I missed this. What does that mean?

I'm running FF as a .sfs (which helped my frugal save file space a lot).

Go into about:config, search for "ipc" and disable the plugins. They're resource hogs. I'm guessing the SFS saves your settings in the .mozilla folder. I run a hard copy from my HD with a /root link

[RetroTechGuy]

You can get rid of the plugin container.

BTW, I missed this. What does that mean?

I'm running FF as a .sfs (which helped my frugal save file space a lot).

Go into about:config, search for "ipc" and disable the plugins. They're resource hogs. I'm guessing the SFS saves your settings in the .mozilla folder. I run a hard copy from my HD with a /root link

Thanks, I just turned them off. We'll see if that helps.

Yes, the SFS still saves junk in .mozilla, but it doesn't store the FF code in the save file (first time I'd had 3 green bars in a long time) -- and I also moved that out into /root/home/puppy528/ (where I store all my 5.28 junk).

I run all frugals -- and just recently got around to dumping all of the 4.31 saves, and the 5.20 saves...