Lucid Puppy Revitalized as 5.2.8.7 - Nov., 2017 - Final
The Luci range seemed to be a sweet spot for older single core cpus and tricky Radeons in my experience, coming straight up to the desktop without hassle. And flies on newer gear.
Could you post a list of your changes Rerwin if you get chance?
And maybe a few screenies.
I remember the alsa was a bit old on the original for some usb sound cards, possibly presonus/ emu/ rme.
Could you post a list of your changes Rerwin if you get chance?
And maybe a few screenies.
I remember the alsa was a bit old on the original for some usb sound cards, possibly presonus/ emu/ rme.
many or maybe all of the changes are posted at http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... start=2355Smithy wrote:The Luci range seemed to be a sweet spot for older single core cpus and tricky Radeons in my experience, coming straight up to the desktop without hassle. And flies on newer gear.
Could you post a list of your changes Rerwin if you get chance?
And maybe a few screenies.
I remember the alsa was a bit old on the original for some usb sound cards, possibly presonus/ emu/ rme.
hope this helps you
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Are you running frugal?otropogo wrote:I can tell you that I haven't had any problems with my 2fs files until I'd been using them for many months under lupuplus-005.
Do you run a fsck on every boot?
Dating back to versions in the 4.xx, I started running fsck on every boot. The save files seem to slowly corrupt themselves...
On the kernel line (in menu.lst), I add:
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Thank you for providing the upgrades for Lucid Puppy. It has been my "go-to" Puppy since I learned about Puppy Linux a couple of years ago.
When we switched from an ethernet connection to a WiFi hotspot, I was lo longer able to connect my Lucid 528 to the internet, so had to use other versions for that purpose, but Lucid worked so well with LibreOffice and playing DVD's that I kept switching back and forth.
Enter Super Lucid (lupusuper2plus-5.2.8.6-4.1.5-k3.2.48-20140321.iso): now I can connect to WiFi no problem
I am using a "Poor Man's" frugal install; the Sfs files, initrd, vmlinuz, and the save file are all on the hard drive; I use a cd to boot (Win 7 is also on there).
This is an Acer Aspire 7741Z-4643 laptop with an Intel Pentium P6100 processor and 3 GB of RAM.
When I "upgraded", I simply deleted everything out of my Lucid folder except the save file, then copied in the new files, and re-named the save file to "sulusave".
Everthing worked fine except for two minor things:
1. I cannot shut down normally; clicking the shutdown menu gives no response whatsoever. I have to do the control/alt/backspace, then it shuts down saves the session just fine.
2. All of the icons in the lower right corner of the tray are gone. The desktop icons and drive icons are fine.
Does anyone have any suggestions as to where I should look to fix these (minor) problems?
Thanks for the help,
Les
When we switched from an ethernet connection to a WiFi hotspot, I was lo longer able to connect my Lucid 528 to the internet, so had to use other versions for that purpose, but Lucid worked so well with LibreOffice and playing DVD's that I kept switching back and forth.
Enter Super Lucid (lupusuper2plus-5.2.8.6-4.1.5-k3.2.48-20140321.iso): now I can connect to WiFi no problem
I am using a "Poor Man's" frugal install; the Sfs files, initrd, vmlinuz, and the save file are all on the hard drive; I use a cd to boot (Win 7 is also on there).
This is an Acer Aspire 7741Z-4643 laptop with an Intel Pentium P6100 processor and 3 GB of RAM.
When I "upgraded", I simply deleted everything out of my Lucid folder except the save file, then copied in the new files, and re-named the save file to "sulusave".
Everthing worked fine except for two minor things:
1. I cannot shut down normally; clicking the shutdown menu gives no response whatsoever. I have to do the control/alt/backspace, then it shuts down saves the session just fine.
2. All of the icons in the lower right corner of the tray are gone. The desktop icons and drive icons are fine.
Does anyone have any suggestions as to where I should look to fix these (minor) problems?
Thanks for the help,
Les
I'm running 5.2.8.005. It's extending the life of this 10 yr old Presario laptop. I'm primarily a web browser. I don't game much or do any high powered computing. If I need to use an office suite, Google docs or Office Online does the trick. 5.2.8 is quite stable. I'm running the latest Firefox. The only issue with I had, and it's not necessarily a Puppy thing, is poor support of the Broadcom wifi card. Rather than tear my hair out getting it to work, I'm using a USB wifi dongle with a Realtek RTL8187 chipset that works out of the box with Puppy.
HP Pavilion Mini Pentium 1.7 GHz Dual Core 12 GB RAM 120 GB SSD Linux Lite 3.8 64-bit w/ Kensington Slimblade Trackball
Bionic8.0 Xenial64 Tahr64 USB frugal install
Samsung Chromebook Plus
LG V20 LG Xpression Plus Huawei Ascend XT2
Bionic8.0 Xenial64 Tahr64 USB frugal install
Samsung Chromebook Plus
LG V20 LG Xpression Plus Huawei Ascend XT2
dk60902,
Thanks for joining this thread. Since it is only about my upgraded version, 5.2.8.6 (equivalent to a 528-006), why not give it a try? It has the latest upgrades of the Broadcom wifi support, which is significant thanks to the work of peebee.
You should be able to simply replace your initrd.gz, vmlinuz and lupu528.sfs files with the versions in the 5.2.8.6 pet (lupu, or lupumini if you use a zdrv sfs file), if you are using a frugal installation.
Richard
Thanks for joining this thread. Since it is only about my upgraded version, 5.2.8.6 (equivalent to a 528-006), why not give it a try? It has the latest upgrades of the Broadcom wifi support, which is significant thanks to the work of peebee.
You should be able to simply replace your initrd.gz, vmlinuz and lupu528.sfs files with the versions in the 5.2.8.6 pet (lupu, or lupumini if you use a zdrv sfs file), if you are using a frugal installation.
Richard
My guess is that something in your pupsave file is interfering with those functions. I would first look in /var/log/messages, /tmp/xerrs.log and bootsysinit.log for clues; you could send them or their content to me in a PM. If nothing is obvious, I would run from the command line:Les Kerf wrote:Everything worked fine except for two minor things:
1. I cannot shut down normally; clicking the shutdown menu gives no response whatsoever. I have to do the control/alt/backspace, then it shuts down saves the session just fine.
2. All of the icons in the lower right corner of the tray are gone. The desktop icons and drive icons are fine.
diff -r /initrd/pup_ro2 /initrd/pup_rw > /tmp/diff-ro2-rw.txt
and look for conflicts. But knowing what to look for is the trick. Most likely, files showing differences in their code would be suspects. It might be simpler to gzip and PM me the diff...txt file.
Richard
I do believe it was something wrong with the save file. I read on another thread where someone had a similar problem, and it was suggested that they try doing a fsck upon bootup; I tried that with no effect, but then I tried the boot parameter of "puppy pfix=clean" and that solved both of my problems.
I am much obliged, and thank you so much for putting forth the effort to maintain Lucid Puppy.
Les
I am much obliged, and thank you so much for putting forth the effort to maintain Lucid Puppy.
Les
Here, have an install report
Heavily Modified Neoware CA19 thin client
VIA Eden 400MHz CPU ("Esther" core, so VIA C7-based, rather than the older VIA C3...)
VIA CN700 chipset (incl graphics)
1gb DDR2 RAM (upgraded from IIRC 256mb)
4gb "Poor Man's SSD" (CompactFlash Card in IDE Adapter)
Added two USB ports to the back, removing the parallel port in the process
Replaced both internal heatsinks (CPU and northbridge) with active coolers
Busted and eventually replaced one of the original USB ports (on the front)
WiFi via external dongle (right now a Rosewill RNX-N600UBE)
I've loaded umpty-brajillion Pups on this thing trying to find *one* that was tolerably responsive. Just for whotsit and giggles I download and try a copy of Super LuPu 2, assuming that like every single other one, it'll either take ten minutes to boot and be super doober slow (ClassicPup top10), or it won't have a new enough glibc to let me run anything newer than dusty antiquity as far as eg browsers are concerned (anything older than Slacko 55) -- or, well, both at once, which is the category that most logically-worth-trying Pups (4xx-based almost everything) fall into. If they boot at all... (AnitaOS, which can't find its main SFS).
Boy was I wrong!
It's not, you know, lightning fast -- but I'll be danged if it's not pretty responsive, especially compared to basically every other Pup I've tried on this thing. Besides, given the hardware I'd be a pretty silly person indeed to expect speed of any kind...
Good work, rerwin, this one's a keeper
Just curious -- would I be able to run newer versions of Chrome/ium than the browser-installer would have one believe, say up through version 32? or would the glibc inside there be just a little too old for that?
Heavily Modified Neoware CA19 thin client
VIA Eden 400MHz CPU ("Esther" core, so VIA C7-based, rather than the older VIA C3...)
VIA CN700 chipset (incl graphics)
1gb DDR2 RAM (upgraded from IIRC 256mb)
4gb "Poor Man's SSD" (CompactFlash Card in IDE Adapter)
Added two USB ports to the back, removing the parallel port in the process
Replaced both internal heatsinks (CPU and northbridge) with active coolers
Busted and eventually replaced one of the original USB ports (on the front)
WiFi via external dongle (right now a Rosewill RNX-N600UBE)
I've loaded umpty-brajillion Pups on this thing trying to find *one* that was tolerably responsive. Just for whotsit and giggles I download and try a copy of Super LuPu 2, assuming that like every single other one, it'll either take ten minutes to boot and be super doober slow (ClassicPup top10), or it won't have a new enough glibc to let me run anything newer than dusty antiquity as far as eg browsers are concerned (anything older than Slacko 55) -- or, well, both at once, which is the category that most logically-worth-trying Pups (4xx-based almost everything) fall into. If they boot at all... (AnitaOS, which can't find its main SFS).
Boy was I wrong!
It's not, you know, lightning fast -- but I'll be danged if it's not pretty responsive, especially compared to basically every other Pup I've tried on this thing. Besides, given the hardware I'd be a pretty silly person indeed to expect speed of any kind...
Good work, rerwin, this one's a keeper
Just curious -- would I be able to run newer versions of Chrome/ium than the browser-installer would have one believe, say up through version 32? or would the glibc inside there be just a little too old for that?
starhawk,
Thanks for your positive report.
Richard
Thanks for your positive report.
Although I have no experience with Chrome, if it is like SeaMonkey it may allow/recommend upgrading to the current version. You might try installing the latest version offered by QuickPet, running it and then letting it upgrade itself. Of course, don't try this with your main puppy until you have done it on a fresh pupsave environment, in case it doesn't work out.starhawk wrote:Just curious -- would I be able to run newer versions of Chrome/ium than the browser-installer would have one believe, say up through version 32? or would the glibc inside there be just a little too old for that?
Richard
528.6 is a GO, for me.
To all those responsible for 5.2.8.6, thank you so much -- rerwin, you too, of course
Although, for the past year to two I have been using my Android Google Nexus 10 tablet most of the time, I like my Dell Inspirion Mini Netbook quite a bit. The Dell has been running Puppy 5.2.5 for years. All efforts to run later Puppy versions yielded mixed results -- the biggest culprit was always sound handling. Therefore, I stayed with 5.2.5.
I installed 5.2.8.6, a week ago. It has been meeting 99% of my needs.
Good job!
Cheers,
ir
Although, for the past year to two I have been using my Android Google Nexus 10 tablet most of the time, I like my Dell Inspirion Mini Netbook quite a bit. The Dell has been running Puppy 5.2.5 for years. All efforts to run later Puppy versions yielded mixed results -- the biggest culprit was always sound handling. Therefore, I stayed with 5.2.5.
I installed 5.2.8.6, a week ago. It has been meeting 99% of my needs.
Good job!
Cheers,
ir
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Sylpheed problem
Hi, LuPu experts.
May I ask for help re the Sylpheed SFS from Shinobar?
Please look at
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 956#773956
My problem is near the bottom of the page.
Does the GNUpg missing have anything to do with Sylpheed exiting when I delete a message
UPDATE:
Paste from the Sylpheed thread:
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May I ask for help re the Sylpheed SFS from Shinobar?
Please look at
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 956#773956
My problem is near the bottom of the page.
Does the GNUpg missing have anything to do with Sylpheed exiting when I delete a message
UPDATE:
Paste from the Sylpheed thread:
watchdog replied:sh-4.1# /initrd/pup_ro4/usr/bin/sylpheed
(sylpheed:31820): Sylpheed-WARNING **: plugin.c:199: signal 'messageview-show' not found
/initrd/pup_ro4/usr/bin/sylpheed: symbol lookup error: /initrd/pup_ro4/usr/bin/sylpheed: undefined symbol: folder_item_is_trash
sh-4.1#.
:
It seems like your libraries are not compatible. Perhaps it's problem of lupu 528_006. It's odd because I realized that shino's sfs even works in latest slacko, too.
Dell E6410: BusterPup, BionicPup64, Xenial, etc
Intel DQ35JOE, Dell Vostro 430
Dell Inspiron, Acer Aspire One, EeePC 1018P
Intel DQ35JOE, Dell Vostro 430
Dell Inspiron, Acer Aspire One, EeePC 1018P
upup 3.9.9 Lucid is slow
upup 3.9.9 Lucid is slow, slower then Lucid 3.0.25. However it's a clever process to get Lucid Puppy as a LTS.
I failed installing windows managers as E17, Echinus. Not really a problem. It was my first try.
Sometimes impossible to write on USB sdcxx. Unmount, mount again, then writing on it is ok. Strange.
Edit sfs in the menu should be a good idea too (utilities)... Well, i have the pet in my tool case.
Pfind : could anybody create a pretty icon for Pfind, poor Pfind, icon is so small that we cannot.... Find it on the desktop !
I failed installing windows managers as E17, Echinus. Not really a problem. It was my first try.
Sometimes impossible to write on USB sdcxx. Unmount, mount again, then writing on it is ok. Strange.
Edit sfs in the menu should be a good idea too (utilities)... Well, i have the pet in my tool case.
Pfind : could anybody create a pretty icon for Pfind, poor Pfind, icon is so small that we cannot.... Find it on the desktop !
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New Plus and Libre uploads
I have updated the Plus and Libre ISO files with the current versions of LibreOffice and Java Runtime. The separate SFS files for jre-1.7.0.55, LibreOffice 4.1.6 (the final version of LO 4.1) and LibreOffice 4.2.4 (the newest stable version) are available here (in Supplemental SFS Files):
Although I provide the final LO 4.1 release, I suspect most will want to migrate to LO 4.2. Simply replacing the appropriate SFS files should work without further adjustments. The residual files in directory /opt/libreoffice4.1 should cause no harm; that entire directory can be removed if desired.
The details of the improvements in 4.2 beyond 4.1 are given here:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Rel ... .2_Changes
Links to all of the ISO files are in the first posting of this thread.
Richard
- JRE: http://www.mediafire.com/download/3l0ow ... 7.0.55.sfs
LibreOffice 4.1.6: http://www.mediafire.com/download/1i4q9 ... -US_gz.sfs
LibreOffice 4.2.4: http://www.mediafire.com/download/zqw5z ... -US_gz.sfs
Although I provide the final LO 4.1 release, I suspect most will want to migrate to LO 4.2. Simply replacing the appropriate SFS files should work without further adjustments. The residual files in directory /opt/libreoffice4.1 should cause no harm; that entire directory can be removed if desired.
The details of the improvements in 4.2 beyond 4.1 are given here:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Rel ... .2_Changes
Links to all of the ISO files are in the first posting of this thread.
Richard
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Hello Richard,
Not sure if you are planning to include any further upgrades or fixes in Lupu 5286 now, but here are a couple to consider if you are:-
firewallstate-2.5.1-i686.pet
Operational improvements and nice new icons in the tray.
More info:-
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... &start=150
pup-advert-blocker-0.5b.pet
Important fix of Mvps block list.
Other fixes and enhancements.
More info:-
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 0&start=51
Not sure if you are planning to include any further upgrades or fixes in Lupu 5286 now, but here are a couple to consider if you are:-
firewallstate-2.5.1-i686.pet
Operational improvements and nice new icons in the tray.
More info:-
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... &start=150
pup-advert-blocker-0.5b.pet
Important fix of Mvps block list.
Other fixes and enhancements.
More info:-
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 0&start=51
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Oscar in England
Oscar,
Thanks for calling my attention to those packages. I have added them to my collection for the next round, probably far off at this point.
I would like to update epdfview to add the patch to correct the blue-red mixup. I have the patch, but cannot seem to compile the 0.1.8 version cleanly. Although I have the code, from linux-from-scratch, I do not know where to find some of the dependencies. During configuration, it stops when it cannot find libkrb5 (or something like that).
Is there anyone here who can advise me on how to get on with this task?
Richard
UPDATE 5/17/2014: After researching the issue described by Oscar Talks as
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 540#750540
Since it will be awhile before the next 5.2.8.6 update, I attach it here, for those already installing firewallstate-2.5.1, because it addresses the same problem. Move ipinfo.gz to /usr/sbin and then click on it to unzip it, replacing the existing version.
Richard
Thanks for calling my attention to those packages. I have added them to my collection for the next round, probably far off at this point.
I would like to update epdfview to add the patch to correct the blue-red mixup. I have the patch, but cannot seem to compile the 0.1.8 version cleanly. Although I have the code, from linux-from-scratch, I do not know where to find some of the dependencies. During configuration, it stops when it cannot find libkrb5 (or something like that).
Is there anyone here who can advise me on how to get on with this task?
Richard
UPDATE 5/17/2014: After researching the issue described by Oscar Talks as
I obtained 01micko and greengeek's new version of ipinfo and edited it to look almost like the apparently final version, here:this version [of firewallstate] does not call out to external hosts to determine your WAN IP. Apparently some people are concerned about that.
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 540#750540
Since it will be awhile before the next 5.2.8.6 update, I attach it here, for those already installing firewallstate-2.5.1, because it addresses the same problem. Move ipinfo.gz to /usr/sbin and then click on it to unzip it, replacing the existing version.
Richard
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Re: krb5
Not that I'd know a lib if I fell over it:jeff757 wrote:Rerwin,
I'm in super2 and it has krb5.
jeff
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lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 14 2011-08-17 10:49 /usr/lib/libkrb5.so.3 -> libkrb5.so.3.3
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 719540 2011-08-17 11:04 /usr/lib/libkrb5.so.3.3
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 21 2011-08-17 10:49 /usr/lib/libkrb5support.so.0 -> libkrb5support.so.0.1
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 26152 2011-08-17 11:04 /usr/lib/libkrb5support.so.0.1
Dell E6410: BusterPup, BionicPup64, Xenial, etc
Intel DQ35JOE, Dell Vostro 430
Dell Inspiron, Acer Aspire One, EeePC 1018P
Intel DQ35JOE, Dell Vostro 430
Dell Inspiron, Acer Aspire One, EeePC 1018P
To get edpfview to compile, just add this symlink: /usr/lib/libgssapi_krb5.so (EDIT: link to libgssapi_krb5.so.2.2)
I'm no expert, but nosed around in the makefile for krb5 and found this line (142):
All the other libs have a '.so' symlink apart from the krb5 one - changed that and it compiles.
I'm no expert, but nosed around in the makefile for krb5 and found this line (142):
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CUPS_LIBS = -lcups -lgssapi_krb5 -lgnutls -lz -lpthread -lm -lcrypt