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May, 1st
Have a nice International Workers' Day.
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But, you may have been, and thus can participate in the celebration of workers.Flash wrote:Semantically speaking, if you're unemployed or retired I don't think you can be called a worker.
I've met many people on welfare who consider it their major source of employment(i.e., their source of income).Welfare I'm not so sure about. Many people employed by Wal-mart are paid so little that they qualify for food stamps and other government assistance.
When I was working as a TV tech the boss received a substantial amount from the government to employ me, that lasted 6months then I was made a full time permanent employee, having a wife and four children to support, I approached the boss with a form for him to fill out so I could claim a social security payment, he couldn't understand why I would be receiving the payment, I educated him to the fact the the pay I get is under the poverty line.tlchost wrote:But, you may have been, and thus can participate in the celebration of workers.Flash wrote:Semantically speaking, if you're unemployed or retired I don't think you can be called a worker.I've met many people on welfare who consider it their major source of employment(i.e., their source of income).Welfare I'm not so sure about. Many people employed by Wal-mart are paid so little that they qualify for food stamps and other government assistance.
Opps, how would we classify the "workers' who make money under the table while receiving welfare, food stamps, AFDC, Section 8 and medicaid
Hmmm, everytime I have been underpaid, I either negotiated more money, or left for another job that paid more.Geoffrey wrote:When I was working as a TV tech the boss received a substantial amount from the government to employ me, that lasted 6months then I was made a full time permanent employee, having a wife and four children to support, I approached the boss with a form for him to fill out so I could claim a social security payment, he couldn't understand why I would be receiving the payment, I educated him to the fact the the pay I get is under the poverty line.
It's a bit hard to negotiate when the employer uses the system to get cheap labour, it's their terms of employment.tlchost wrote:Hmmm, everytime I have been underpaid, I either negotiated more money, or left for another job that paid more.
And after a while, I went off on my own, and became one of the evil capitalists....and actually created jobs for others.
I, Did.tlchost wrote:Then, leave.Geoffrey wrote:
It's a bit hard to negotiate when the employer uses the system to get cheap labour, it's their terms of employment.
This works well if the economy is doing well. I remember threatening to leave IBM if they did not give me a raise and they responded rapidly. Right now in the US, job hopping is a bit harder than it wastlchost wrote:Geoffrey wrote:
Hmmm, everytime I have been underpaid, I either negotiated more money, or left for another job that paid more.