LxPup : a Puppy with LXDE as its desktop environment

[peebee]

EXPERIMENTAL EASTER EGG

LxPup-15.04 with kernel 3.19.2-emsee-32-pae

Particularly interested in any problems with:
- Broadcom wl wifi driver compiled for 3.19.2 kernel
- ndiswrapper driver ditto
- Frisbee / dhcpd / network_tray (latest versions)

Getflash also updated to latest version.

No longer available from an experimental download site:
(provides ftp upload access which is unusual for a free site - plus it has an appropriate name for Puppy use )

Known problems with the kernel include:
- multiple segfault reports in dmesg when installed on a laptop with "older" Intel graphics (despite these seems to work otherwise)
- exhibits the "unable to select from multiple savefiles/folders when using a usb keyboard" problem extensively discussed and fixed in the tahrpup thread

Cheers
peebee

[johnywhy]

after applying quickpet updater, i can no longer connect to wifi. i'm getting

wlan0 "no such device"

How can i fix?

thx!

[peebee]

after applying quickpet updater, i can no longer connect to wifi. i'm getting

wlan0 "no such device"

How can i fix?

thx!

Hi there - afraid I don't really know - wouldn't have thought there is anything in update to affect wifi.

Have a look at the output from dmesg in a terminal - are there any error messages concerning wlan0?

Check if a driver called wl is being loaded - lsmod in a terminal - if it is try blacklisting it and then rebooting.

If you still have problems please run pdiag in a terminal and post or pm the output.

For problems like this you need to post a lot more information - what type of wifi do you have? which network manager are you using? How and where does that error message appear?

[johnywhy]

Check if a driver called wl is being loaded - lsmod in a terminal - if it is try blacklisting it and then rebooting.

that was the problem. your fix worked.

how did that happen?

many thx!

[johnywhy]

Hi

On LxPupTahr, i ran the remastering program. I chose the correct options to produce an iso file. At the end, it says the ISO was created.

But there's no ISO. See screenshot.

Remastering on this pup installation worked for me previously. I made an ISO earlier today with no problem.

Then i added/removed various packages from my live pup, using "remove built-in packages" and "package manager" apps.

I don't know if this is related, but I noticed the dependency checker says i'm missing "libntfs-3g841", but i cannot find this package in the package manager, nor in http://packages.ubuntu.com.

However, "which ntfs-3g" returns "/bin/ntfs-3g".

sda2 is an ext2 partition.

thx!

[peebee]

Hi

On LxPupTahr, i ran the remastering program. I chose the correct options to produce an iso file. At the end, it says the ISO was created.

But there's no ISO. See screenshot.

Remastering on this pup installation worked for me previously. I made an ISO earlier today with no problem.

Then i added/removed various packages from my live pup, using "remove built-in packages" and "package manager" apps.

I don't know if this is related, but I noticed the dependency checker says i'm missing "libntfs-3g841", but i cannot find this package in the package manager, nor in http://packages.ubuntu.com.

However, "which ntfs-3g" returns "/bin/ntfs-3g".

sda2 is an ext2 partition.

thx!

I've never done a remaster so am not in a good position to advise. Suggest you post on a "remastering" thread if you can find one that's been active recently - but again you must provide a lot more detail of your problem - exactly how is your system configured (what kind of install on what media etc) and what packages you had added and removed? If it worked previously then it must be something you did subsequently that stopped it working again.

[mikeslr]

I don't have the scripting skills to figure out or fix the failure of the built in remaster to create an ISO.

Pending that solution, there's a workaround you could try,

Remaster left the puppylivecdbuild on your sda2 drive. You can install and use shinobar's dir2iso, http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 748#638748.

mikeslr

p.s. My ignorance is often a cause for optimism: I could hope that installing dir2iso will write-in or overwrite the missing/broken "write to iso" part of remaster's script. On the other hand, dir2iso may depend on that script being installed and functional and not work at all.
Or more than just remaster's write iso routine is broken, and so consequently will be the Pup generated by dir2iso.

[Gobbi]

LxPup-15.04 with kernel 3.19.2-emsee-32-pae

- Frisbee / dhcpd / network_tray (latest versions)

Frugal install on my desktop , posting from it using a wireless RTL 8187 dongle with Frisbee . The tray icon seems to be the 'network wizard' s one but right clicking on it opens Frisbee .
Having some troubles with both hdmi ( amd's videocard) sound and analog ( realtek mobo's ) sound outputs . Headphone sound works though ...
Using the ati driver as seen in first settings window , and was able to switch to 1920x1080 . Hardinfo shows Mesa driver at work .
I'll keep testing it ...

[jd7654]

LxPup is a very nice puppy derivative!

Tested and working well on a few machines: Lenovo R60, Acer ZG5 and some generic clones.

Just a couple of minor differences I notice compared to other puppies like Precise, Slacko, Tahr or X-slacko:

- .4fs save files do not automatically mount and open when clicked on like .2fs/.3fs files.

- don't have a file delete option only a "Move to Trash" option, so that in order to cleanly remove any changes from a drive you have to move to trash, empty trash, and then maybe also delete the .Trash-0 directory that pops up on the drive.

[peebee]

LxPup is a very nice puppy derivative!

Tested and working well on a few machines: Lenovo R60, Acer ZG5 and some generic clones.

Just a couple of minor differences I notice compared to other puppies like Precise, Slacko, Tahr or X-slacko:

- .4fs save files do not automatically mount and open when clicked on like .2fs/.3fs files.

- don't have a file delete option only a "Move to Trash" option, so that in order to cleanly remove any changes from a drive you have to move to trash, empty trash, and then maybe also delete the .Trash-0 directory that pops up on the drive.

Hi jd7654

Thanks for your report - sorry its taken me a little time to investigate - you are correct wrt .4fs files and I am flummoxed!!

As far as I know, I haven't made any changes that would affect .4fs differently to .2fs/.3fs files - but it is the case that rox opens .4fs files but pcmanfm doesn't.

So the fix is to use rox from the menu -> Filesystem to get to the .4fs and when you click on it pcmanfm will open with the contents.

When I have time I will try to find the reason and a fix....

The fix for a right click permanent delete is to add the optional right-clicks package from
menu -> desktop appearance -> options

In pcmanfm there is also a remove option in the edit menu - so select the file you want to delete and then use that.

Cheers
peebee

[jd7654]

Hi jd7654

Thanks for your report - sorry its taken me a little time to investigate - you are correct wrt .4fs files and I am flummoxed!!

As far as I know, I haven't made any changes that would affect .4fs differently to .2fs/.3fs files - but it is the case that rox opens .4fs files but pcmanfm doesn't.

So the fix is to use rox from the menu -> Filesystem to get to the .4fs and when you click on it pcmanfm will open with the contents.

When I have time I will try to find the reason and a fix....

The fix for a right click permanent delete is to add the optional right-clicks package from
menu -> desktop appearance -> options

In pcmanfm there is also a remove option in the edit menu - so select the file you want to delete and then use that.

Cheers
peebee

No problem, just some casual observations.

Don't know how many people open up and look into their save files, I just happened to be doing it troubleshooting something else. Not a big deal, didn't mean to send you off on a snipe hunt. Playing with Puppies is mainly recreational for me.

Thanks for the tips on PCManFM, both worked like a charm!

[johnywhy]

hello

So far, LxPup the winning puppy

xfce is more ambitious, but lxde seems more stable

question, i exited lx to prompt, and ran 'xwin jwm'. Now i can't seem to get back to lxde.

i tried 'exec lxde', but does not work.

when i reboot, i go back into jwm, instead of lxde. also, i keep getting a message that says something like "desktop manager is not active".

Can you help?

thx!

[peebee]

So far, LxPup the winning puppy
question, i exited lx to prompt, and ran 'xwin jwm'. Now i can't seem to get back to lxde.

The command is:

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xwin startlxde

For Slacko flavours only -NOT LxPupTahr:
Have you tried the DE Switcher in
menu -> Desktop appearance -> Options

There is a JWM switch available. Use the DE Switcher to return to LXDE.
There are also XFCE modules available to download and switch to.
Cheers!

[clasico3124]

hello
why dont you adapt icq original like skype original version
icq exist portable version
and take a look this
http://www.icq.com/download/linux/es
well i hope this help a little
byeeeeee

[peebee]

When I have time I will try to find the reason and a fix....

OK reason = missing line from /usr/share/applications/defaults.list

Fix - run in terminal:

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echo "application/x-ext4-image=filemnt.desktop" >> /usr/share/applications/defaults.list

Will be fixed properly in next build.

defaults.list comes from the base Puppy used to build LxPup - the line is missing in both Slacko and TahrPup.

Has been corrected "up-stream" in WoofCE by Mavrothal (thanks) - https://github.com/puppylinux-woof-CE/w ... 0503d9e499

Thanks
peebee

[jd7654]

OK reason = missing line from /usr/share/applications/defaults.list
Fix - run in terminal:

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echo "application/x-ext4-image=filemnt.desktop" >> /usr/share/applications/defaults.list

Aha, yes, that fixes it!
I inserted that into defaults.list and it worked immediately. Figured it was something simple like a file association. I was searching for a ".4fs" somewhere (ala windows mindset) but couldn't find.

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[johnywhy]

hi,

i have a frugal LxPrecise and a stock Precise as frugal installs in separate folders on the same partition.

Problem, when i booted LxPrecise, it used the SaveFile from the stock Precise.

I tried to switch to LXDE, but 'start LXDE' did not work. Also, no good because it pulled in all my settings from the stock Precise.

fyi
thx!

[johnywhy]

hello

thx for all the puppy's!

Issue: in a new LxPrecise (no save file), when i right-click a menu item, and choose "add to desktop", nothing gets added to the desktop. Later, i changed my wallpaper, and was able to do this.

Issue: If i right-click on the desktop, and create a shortcut, and put a terminal command into the shortcut, the terminal command does not get executed when i click on the shortcut. I tested the command in a terminal to confirm it works.

thx!

[peebee]

Issue: in a new LxPrecise (no save file), when i right-click a menu item, and choose "add to desktop", nothing gets added to the desktop. Later, i changed my wallpaper, and was able to do this.

Issue: If i right-click on the desktop, and create a shortcut, and put a terminal command into the shortcut, the terminal command does not get executed when i click on the shortcut. I tested the command in a terminal to confirm it works.

thx!

Hi - please always specify exactly which LxPup you are using.

Just tested LxPupPrecise-15.02.1-retro

and it works fine - you do need to install the optional right-clicks package to enable shortcut editing.

Problem, when i booted LxPrecise, it used the SaveFile from the stock Precise.

Suggest you put psubdir=<your folder name> into your menu.lst boot parameters.

Cheers
peebee

[johnywhy]

Hi - please always specify exactly which LxPup you are using.

LxPrecise Non-Retro, just downloaded yesterday from your repository.

LxPupPrecise-14.02-pae-sp1.iso

you do need to install the optional right-clicks package to enable shortcut editing.

Thx, will research how. Request, if possible, include that in the iso?

Suggest you put psubdir=<your folder name> into your menu.lst boot parameters.

Just checked, and it already is there. But that did not prevent LxPrecise from using the save-file from a frugal stock Precise in a different folder.

Here's the grub entry:

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title Puppy lxprecise 14.02 (sda1/LxPrecise)
  kernel /LxPrecise/vmlinuz   psubdir=LxPrecise pmedia=atahd pfix=fsck
  initrd /LxPrecise/initrd.gz

Note, the problem is booting a new LxPrecise install (created by manually copying files off the .iso into a folder, and then running Grub4Dos to detect it). So, this is an LxPrecise with no save-file created yet.

Just a thought, since 'frugal' install is an essential puppy thing, seems like puppy should know to ignore other frugals, imo.

thx!