12.9.15
Gparted 0.16.1 in tahrpup 6.03 can not locate partitions on /dev/sda.
Older gparted on other partitions can without a problem.
What is the reason?
-incompatible hardware?
-malware on harddisk?
-the wrong gparted release in Tahr? (new: gparted 0.23.0)
-bug?
What can I do? Copy an older release, which works on other linux?
update? - how update without a tahr package (step by step)?
regards
M.Schwarz
tahrpup
Posting questions about problems with maintained Pups
Hi martinus,
Your problem with gparted under Tahrpup doesn't fall into the categories of "how to get started" or "General info would be helpful". It is specific to one application on one Pup.
Tahrpup is still being actively maintained and developed. The best place to post your question is on the Tahrpup thread because (a) that's where people who know it and are working on it frequently look; (b) its rude to expect them to scour the entire forum for posts concerning their Pup; (c) they want to know about your problem because if it is not just peculiar to your system they have a personal interest in making their Pup better; and (d) you'll get the quickest response from the most knowledgeable people.
But when you post your problem there, be sure to tell them about your computer --make, model, hardrive, anything which may be relevant to the problem-- how you are running the Pup --Full or Frugal Install; from hard-drive, USB-stick, or CD/DVD-- and exactly which Pups you ran didn't have the problem. The last bit of information may help them solve your problem: for example, the code for the gparted which worked may be different from that which didn't. Or a lib may be missing.
mikesLr
Your problem with gparted under Tahrpup doesn't fall into the categories of "how to get started" or "General info would be helpful". It is specific to one application on one Pup.
Tahrpup is still being actively maintained and developed. The best place to post your question is on the Tahrpup thread because (a) that's where people who know it and are working on it frequently look; (b) its rude to expect them to scour the entire forum for posts concerning their Pup; (c) they want to know about your problem because if it is not just peculiar to your system they have a personal interest in making their Pup better; and (d) you'll get the quickest response from the most knowledgeable people.
But when you post your problem there, be sure to tell them about your computer --make, model, hardrive, anything which may be relevant to the problem-- how you are running the Pup --Full or Frugal Install; from hard-drive, USB-stick, or CD/DVD-- and exactly which Pups you ran didn't have the problem. The last bit of information may help them solve your problem: for example, the code for the gparted which worked may be different from that which didn't. Or a lib may be missing.
mikesLr
I am not having any problem with the Gparted in Tahrpup 6.0.3.
So, you may have a problem with the install of Tahrpup.
What format is the partition Tahrpup is installed on?
Tahrpup a full or frugal install?
If a frugal and you are using a save file, is it .2fs, .3fs, or .4fs?
So, you may have a problem with the install of Tahrpup.
What format is the partition Tahrpup is installed on?
Tahrpup a full or frugal install?
If a frugal and you are using a save file, is it .2fs, .3fs, or .4fs?
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Tahrpup gparted
17.9.2015
thanks for answers.
It seams to be a problem between gparted 0.16.1 and my hardware: Fuji-Siemens desktop ca. 2001.
I tried two different Tahrpup cd, I tried it from cd as well as with a full and a frugal installation: all show the same problem: unallocated.
On a newer computer, only 9 years old, gparted has no problem after Tahr was installed from the same ISO cd.
Is gparted only usable for limited Number of partitions? My
Fuji-Siemens has 10.
When I know how to, I can change gparted 0.16.1 to an older version. Is that a solution?
Is there not yet a handbook for Puppy available? That could be very helpful.
regards
martinus
thanks for answers.
It seams to be a problem between gparted 0.16.1 and my hardware: Fuji-Siemens desktop ca. 2001.
I tried two different Tahrpup cd, I tried it from cd as well as with a full and a frugal installation: all show the same problem: unallocated.
On a newer computer, only 9 years old, gparted has no problem after Tahr was installed from the same ISO cd.
Is gparted only usable for limited Number of partitions? My
Fuji-Siemens has 10.
When I know how to, I can change gparted 0.16.1 to an older version. Is that a solution?
Is there not yet a handbook for Puppy available? That could be very helpful.
regards
martinus
You could try this version of Gparted.
It is from the Tahrpup repository.
http://distro.ibiblio.org/puppylinux/pe ... uirky6.pet
However I always use this to do anything with Gparted.
Gparted live CD or USB.
For partitioning I would suggest you use the Gparted live CD or USB that you can get from here.
You can download a free version to make your own Gparted live CD or USB.
It is up to date and specifically made to run Gparted.
Info:
http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
Download:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/gparted ... ve-stable/
It is from the Tahrpup repository.
http://distro.ibiblio.org/puppylinux/pe ... uirky6.pet
However I always use this to do anything with Gparted.
Gparted live CD or USB.
For partitioning I would suggest you use the Gparted live CD or USB that you can get from here.
You can download a free version to make your own Gparted live CD or USB.
It is up to date and specifically made to run Gparted.
Info:
http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
Download:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/gparted ... ve-stable/
The things they do not tell you, are usually the clue to solving the problem.
When I was a kid I wanted to be older.... This is not what I expected
YaPI(any iso installer)
When I was a kid I wanted to be older.... This is not what I expected
YaPI(any iso installer)
What format are these partitions?Is gparted only usable for limited Number of partitions? My
Fuji-Siemens has 10.
Well, the Gparted in Puppy is a little cut down on features.
It does not support all of the possible formats.
If one of the partitions is a format it does not support.
That could be an issue
The things they do not tell you, are usually the clue to solving the problem.
When I was a kid I wanted to be older.... This is not what I expected
YaPI(any iso installer)
When I was a kid I wanted to be older.... This is not what I expected
YaPI(any iso installer)
Good to know, but what hardware we're dealing with is important to know.
This very well could be a hardware issue. Could be a Puppy quirk as well -- I have a Dell laptop (the old Latitude CPi, aka The Infernal Dell) where the computer insists that the hard drive should have a floppy icon, and it only sort of knows that the drive is an HDD -- but without at least a searchable make & model, we don't know.
Specs first, help second. Otherwise we're relying on luck and not a whole lot else.
This very well could be a hardware issue. Could be a Puppy quirk as well -- I have a Dell laptop (the old Latitude CPi, aka The Infernal Dell) where the computer insists that the hard drive should have a floppy icon, and it only sort of knows that the drive is an HDD -- but without at least a searchable make & model, we don't know.
Specs first, help second. Otherwise we're relying on luck and not a whole lot else.
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Jasper
I was concerned that my request might have been missed, given that it was followed by a pair of shots in the dark.
Also, the fact that I've never heard of a non thin client Fujitsu-Siemens system until basically today, is far less important than the fact that we don't know what we're dealing with in terms of specs.
You can't really diagnose a problem without either (a) tremendous amounts of luck, or (b) knowing what you're dealing with. That said, there is a process for determining from an unknown system's behavior, what sort of system you're dealing with -- it's called 'blackboxing', and it's a real pain in the rear. If you'd rather do it that way, fine, but count me out of it.
Or we could wait for our guest to come back and tell us what we've got to work with.
Or we could keep squabbling.
You tell me which option sounds best to you...
Also, the fact that I've never heard of a non thin client Fujitsu-Siemens system until basically today, is far less important than the fact that we don't know what we're dealing with in terms of specs.
You can't really diagnose a problem without either (a) tremendous amounts of luck, or (b) knowing what you're dealing with. That said, there is a process for determining from an unknown system's behavior, what sort of system you're dealing with -- it's called 'blackboxing', and it's a real pain in the rear. If you'd rather do it that way, fine, but count me out of it.
Or we could wait for our guest to come back and tell us what we've got to work with.
Or we could keep squabbling.
You tell me which option sounds best to you...
Tahrpup gparted
Hello Friends 26.9.15
The problem is: gparted on tahrpup.
An other Problem is: I have not jet understood, how this Forum is organized. On Sept. 21st I sent more Information, which seems to be landed on an other spot of Forum.
I repeat:
FUJITSU SIEMENS
SCENIC E600 i865G
Model DT4-D1534.
screen prints of sda1 show the defect under Tahr with gparted 0.16.1 and the correct picture of harddisk under Slacko.
New is:
I tried gparted under Quirky on a second, a newer Computer (Intel 3000MHz).
Gpartet 0.20.0 only shows the first from 10, a Dos-partition. Strange!
Is it a problem of puppy or a problem of gparted 0.20.0? it shows a (!).
On the same computer gparted 0.16.2 under Tahr 6.03 is normal
On a third computer (AMD 3000 MHz) gparted 0.16.2 under Tahr also works without problems.
When you find, it is clear gpartet 0.16.1 and 0.20.0 are the Problems, please let me know how I can introduce 0.16.2.
If you need it I can send further captages of screens.
kind regards
Martinus
The problem is: gparted on tahrpup.
An other Problem is: I have not jet understood, how this Forum is organized. On Sept. 21st I sent more Information, which seems to be landed on an other spot of Forum.
I repeat:
FUJITSU SIEMENS
SCENIC E600 i865G
Model DT4-D1534.
screen prints of sda1 show the defect under Tahr with gparted 0.16.1 and the correct picture of harddisk under Slacko.
New is:
I tried gparted under Quirky on a second, a newer Computer (Intel 3000MHz).
Gpartet 0.20.0 only shows the first from 10, a Dos-partition. Strange!
Is it a problem of puppy or a problem of gparted 0.20.0? it shows a (!).
On the same computer gparted 0.16.2 under Tahr 6.03 is normal
On a third computer (AMD 3000 MHz) gparted 0.16.2 under Tahr also works without problems.
When you find, it is clear gpartet 0.16.1 and 0.20.0 are the Problems, please let me know how I can introduce 0.16.2.
If you need it I can send further captages of screens.
kind regards
Martinus
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Pic here:
http://www.ps2netdrivers.net/manual/fuj ... 0..i865g./
Unfortunately Fujitsu are crap with retaining drivers..specs etc.
I would suggest booting into the bios....
and see how the hard drive is setup.
http://www.manualslib.com/manual/55237/ ... =75#manual
It might need changing.
Otherwise pull out the hard drive,
pop it into a usb container....partition it on another computer.
Personally the bios setup is the key here I think.
Chris.
http://www.ps2netdrivers.net/manual/fuj ... 0..i865g./
Unfortunately Fujitsu are crap with retaining drivers..specs etc.
I would suggest booting into the bios....
and see how the hard drive is setup.
http://www.manualslib.com/manual/55237/ ... =75#manual
It might need changing.
Otherwise pull out the hard drive,
pop it into a usb container....partition it on another computer.
Personally the bios setup is the key here I think.
Chris.
That was around the time the forum was not working correctly due to being hosted by a new service.An other Problem is: I have not jet understood, how this Forum is organized. On Sept. 21st I sent more Information, which seems to be landed on an other spot of Forum.
Should be working correctly now.
The things they do not tell you, are usually the clue to solving the problem.
When I was a kid I wanted to be older.... This is not what I expected
YaPI(any iso installer)
When I was a kid I wanted to be older.... This is not what I expected
YaPI(any iso installer)
The fact that one version of Gparted reports "unallocated" and another version shows partitions suggests a partition table irregularity that is confusing Gparted.
Notice in your image the numbering and order of the partitions.
This suggests you made these partitions at different times, causing new partition tables to be made.
I bet you deleted partitions in the middle and made new ones.
Look at the way they look in this image.
Notice in your image the numbering and order of the partitions.
This suggests you made these partitions at different times, causing new partition tables to be made.
I bet you deleted partitions in the middle and made new ones.
Look at the way they look in this image.
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The things they do not tell you, are usually the clue to solving the problem.
When I was a kid I wanted to be older.... This is not what I expected
YaPI(any iso installer)
When I was a kid I wanted to be older.... This is not what I expected
YaPI(any iso installer)