Fatdog64 702 Final [7 Feb 2016] [CLOSED]

[mikeslr]

Hi csipesz,
You asked

greatings.
WHAT kind of PANEL works beside the openbox? I ask it, because not too user friendly, and I would like to replace at lxpanel...

And jamesbond suggest that while switching to jwm was possible, it wasn't tested much (in FatDog).

The following applications may work in FatDog64 with JWM as window-manager.

Caution: Backup SAVEFILE/FOLDER or run without automatic save while testing.

I haven't tried either of these with FatDog64. So proceed with caution. My experience with JWM Desktop is under Tahrpup64 where it came as a builtin. But radky indicates that it is not "version" specific. And IIRC my own exploration of the application indicates that it is "no-arch" -- BASH scripts which make use of already included executables.
You can find it here: http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 688#869688

As JWM Desktop only provides for launchers on the taskbar and I wanted a second panel, after an extended search and testing I've added mavrothal's jwm applications panel, available here: http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 394#613394. It is also "no-arch". It can be used in conjunction with JWM Desktop. However, despite being "no-arch" it might require 32-bit libraries: I had already installed Tahrpup64's 32-bit libraries before testing this application.

Please explain why you find lxpanel not to be user friendly. Frankly, my prefered desktop management system is openbox-lxpanel. It has a couple of quirks that can easily be overcome and the organization provided by openbox Start-Menu isn't as nice as JWM's (nor especially xfce's Whisker-menu). But creating panels, configuring them, and adding launchers to them isn't difficult once you know the procedure. Not difficult: just different.

Or check back in a little while. You're post reminded me of the learning curve I had to overcome the first couple of times I used lxpanel. Now, it's second nature. But, I figured a "How to" might be of value to anyone for whom it is not. So, I'm writing one and will post a link.

mikesLr

[csipesz]

oh, I drew something up badly certainly:
no, no, it lxpanel wonderful! The razor-qt, it not too good...
I say thank you for the infos, mikeslr and jamesbond!

[jamesbond]

@csipez - I forgot to say if you want to switch to JWM, you can right-click on the desktop, choose the openbox menu, then choose "switch to jwm". From JWM you can also switch back to openbox similarly. If you're a command-line lover, open terminal and type "restartwm jwm" to switch to jwm, and "restartwm openbox" to switch back to openbox.

[L18L]

Installing Fatdog64 on an USB pen drive
is easy

but getting it to run in persistant mode
and
making use of the great nls package is not that easy!

Here is a little script that will
install latest (internet connection needed) Fatdog64
to a removable device (tested with different USB sticks).
UEFI boot lost, legacy BIOS only.

Note, anything that is on the chosen device before will be lost.

Save folder is automatically created on partition 3
NativeLangugeSupport is automatically being used.

[Rocket]

I've modified rox-filer view_details.c to provide movable columns in list view mode. The resultant binary is too large (260k) to post here, so I've included the modified source and you can compile it yourself.

I used rox-filer-2015.02 from:

http://ftp.nluug.nl/ibiblio/distributio ... ource/700/

I regularly search for files based on date modified, so I find this modification makes viewing a bit easier. Hope you find it useful too.

[smokey01]

Rocket, the file you uploaded is exactly the same as the original.

[Rocket]

smokey01:

>>Rocket, the file you uploaded is exactly the same as the original.

Thanks for checking! Uploaded file seems ok.

Only minor changes were made to the original file (view_details.c), with the addition of the following statement

gtk_tree_view_column_set_reorderable(column, TRUE);

to lines 1060, 1065, 1073, 1077, 1080, 1088, and 1092.

md5sum view_details.c original 6fb234b1cb861c2c2296a98fb02cf7bf
md5sum view_details.c uploaded e672134bdc8e46186c206554bb50cad8

Here's a screen print of how the columns can be click and dragged.

[step]

Here's a patch file for Rocket's ROX-Filer movable columns. I used 'diff -c' between the original source file and Rocket's attachment.

The official Fatdog64 702 ROX-Filer binary includes four patches. I'm not sure if Rocket compiled the full patch set. Anyway, I have re-compiled ROX-Filer 2015.02 with all five patches (movable columns included) and uploaded it here >>link. Consider this version experimental and not fully tested. I compiled it using /usr/src/pkgbuild/pkg/rox-filer-2015.02-x86_64-1 plus this patch file.

With this patch columns can be moved, but the change isn't permanent and can't be saved. When you exit details view or start a new ROX-Filer window column ordering reverts back. Still very useful patch, I think. Thanks Rocket!

On a side note, Bushbuck asked for the same thing here http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=106471 just 2.5 hours after Rocket's post

[Keisha]

Please see http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 229#899229

[prehistoric]

Just wanted to say that I've been using 702 for several weeks without any serious difficulties. Somebody ought to tell you when things just work.

I've been particularly thankful for the update scripts for Firefox and Flash player, updates used to cost me more time than was reasonable.

The real problem is that I am now running Firefox 45.0.2 with Flashplayer 11.2.202.616, which is way too many versions for standard software supposed to be released and debugged.

Furthermore, the site flashbuilder.eu tells me I really need version 21.0.0.216, which I declined to download and install.

It seems I have a choice between a battered old version, which has been patched repeatedly to close known vulnerabilities, and a shiny new version with major code changes that have not all been tested. It could have fewer known vulnerabilities simply because it has not been in use long and less is known about it.

You think the situation is better with commercial offerings? Take a look at the problems which were outstanding at the time of a recent "patch Tuesday".
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/04/12 ... y_12apr16/

What are the chances that anyone out there actually has control of the most commonly-used software running on their machine?

[step]

I have updated my post above to include a download link for ROX-Filer binary patched with movable columns.

[jamesbond]

@Rocket, @step - thanks. I'll fetch your patch for inclusion in 710.

@prehistoric - thanks for the report.

As for flash, yeah that's beyond our control. To get anything higher than version 11 you actually need to download Chrome, extract the flash player, and install libfreshplayerplugin before you can use it. You can't download it anywhere else - not even from Adobe. That's as far as I know. If there is any other way, I'm interested to know.

[Atle]

@JamesBond...

I know your know your puppy so well that you might just give a answer simple enough for me to understand and adapt to not only Fatdog, but other Puppies as well..

As we know there is like this Wlanmaker and JoomlaOnPuppy combination that is providing new uses for our hardware. New ways of thinking network.

I have noticed that FatDog has the DNSmasq.conf file. If you take on quick look at this:

https://www.reddit.com/r/darknetplan/co ... h_dnsmasq/

Could we make fatdog and others do the same? Redirect clients to a certain IP? In this case 192.168.100.1?

So when they log on my FatDog AirShare, they will be redirected to the right place "just like that"?

[Belham]

Hi all,

I know Fatdog64 uses 55-eztables (in etc/eztables) folder, and it is easy to set up and understand. Also, opening "Fatdog64 Control Panel" to the "System" tab, and then opening "Manage Servers and Servcies" is easy too, which lets you choose if you want to run what firewall rules you setup and also whether you want it to automatically have it start the next (and every) time Fatdog64 boots.

My question is: is there a way, ala' Slacko versions (32 and 64-bit) to have a tray icon that will show the status of your firewall? Or, is there possibly already one there and I am overlooking adding it??? I've gotten spoiled over the past few years, using Precise and Slacko, and being able to look down in the tray and instantly know whether my firewall was on or off, just by the tray icon & its color status (green: on, red: off).

Is there a way for something like that in Fatdog64? Does it already exist??

I've look around the puppy boards the past few days and can't find anything other than Mick01's excellent Firewall Setup 0.4.pet (which is thankfully 64-bit), but that is based on AlienBob's Easy Firewall Generator for IPTables, and thus I don't believe it will work on Fatdog64. It'll install, sure, but there is no are no links to all sorts of missing stuff that it needs to work.


Thank you for any replies.

[kb8amz]

Uhh! Got the phantom mouse syndrome after returning from a screensaver. [You know, it's there but you can't see it, except, if you wave it about (!) it occasionally lights up a word/icon/w.h.y. as you drift across it.] Guess we've all experienced this but never really understood why. Problem persists after CTRL-ALT-BKSPCE/xwin.

I had the same experience (17FEB2016 version of FD 7.020). I didn't write down the steps of things that I performed to try to resolve the issue but whatever I did seems to have worked because the occurrence has not returned. It probably had something to do with turning off screensaver. I do remember when it occurred, without seeing the visual pointer on the screen, its was very frustrating. After several reboots I reasoned rather than reboot the OS maybe I could reboot the window manager. Typing 'xwin' in terminal was uneventful. The 'startx' command resolved the missing cursor when the new desktop (window manager) appeared.

[kb8amz]

Uhh! Got the phantom mouse syndrome after returning from a screensaver. [You know, it's there but you can't see it, except, if you wave it about (!) it occasionally lights up a word/icon/w.h.y. as you drift across it.] Guess we've all experienced this but never really understood why. Problem persists after CTRL-ALT-BKSPCE/xwin.

I have had the same problem with FD 7.02, 17FEB2016 iso, and tried xwin in terminal. xwin not restarting desktop. Tried startx and desktop restarts with cursor visible. I didn't keep a written of list of things that I tried, but I remember stopping the screen saver through the FD Control Panel and stopping any activation screensaver. I prefer not to use screensaver when laptop is plugged into A/C outlet. PC/desktop doesn't go to sleep now an disappearing cursor problem not a problem. I don't have enough experience to guess why.

My first download from ibiblio of FD702 iso, 12MAR2016, apparently corrupted as my laptop didn't read an iso on the CD. Even after discovering which 'F' key to press on boot to get to BIOS find out what was set/not set for POST. I learned that UEFI was set, now disabled, and set 1st boot device to be DVDROM, sr0. This laptop is my newest hardware purchase in more than 10 years. UEFI is new to me, as is PAE. Laptop came with Whine doze 10 but I have no need for since going totally Linux DEC2015.

Maybe I will discover a fix as I read on the remainder of this thread. It's taken me 2 days and 2 sessions each day to read through to page 11. Thanks JB and others that know more than I and are doing the grunt work to make this a super FD. Terry, KB8AMZ

[SFR]

a tray icon that will show the status of your firewall?
[...]
Is there a way for something like that in Fatdog64? Does it already exist??

Not that I know of...
However, I just wrote a simple script (I was going to make something like this for myself, anyway), so check if it works ok for you.
Just extract and click it.

Greetings!

[Belham]

Hi SFR,

I always love it when I've read your posts over the past few years--I normally lurk as a user, as I have to go read and study and play with stuff in-depth when you guys get going on something technical in any of the puppies........but when I've read your past posts, you'll always invariably say something like "Oh, I made this simple change here"..."....or "there..." or, like now, "...I've wrote a simple script...".....and I only laugh at how spot on all the stuff is. So, I downloaded this, ran the script, and sure as the sun rises, a beautiful lit up green firewall is now ensconced in my fatdog702 tray (right-side, between volume control & wpa-gui. And it looks good too (an Irish-Green Firewall Shield with a big Check through it). Heck, in my opinion it looks better than the Slacko one! .

For any other Fatdog64 users out there, SFR's script is a beauty. It's simple, and it just works, with the mouse hovering over saying it says "Firewall is On". And the right click of the mouse on the tray icon lets me turn the firewall off, turn it back on, or even edit the config file.

James and Kirk need to put this little gem in the final Fatdog64 710 that comes out and all future versions. It is just one of those things that is at once beautiful, useful and powerful.

Thank you so much, SFR! (...also wanted to ask, is there any special place I should put the script so I can have it always load on startup? Maybe somewhere in the /usr files? Or should I use the Fatdog64 Control Panel, then "Desktop" tab, and then click on that "Manage desktop startup programs" and put your firewall script in either "personal startup programs" or "system startup programs"?


P.S. Kirk and James, if you're reading, you both need to try this script out from SFR, and get it in the Fatdog710. It's one of the things that yu go "duh, why didn't I have something like this in there before..."

[SFR]

You're very welcome, glad you like it.

...also wanted to ask, is there any special place I should put the script so I can have it always load on startup? Maybe somewhere in the /usr files? Or should I use the Fatdog64 Control Panel, then "Desktop" tab, and then click on that "Manage desktop startup programs" and put your firewall script in either "personal startup programs" or "system startup programs"?

Yeah, /etc/xdg/Startup or $HOME/Startup would be the best place for it, so you can easily manage it from Control Panel.

Greetings!

[don570]

Does momanager work in fatdog 702?

When I tried, a po file wasn't created by Geany.
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