Successor to Wary 5.5?
Successor to Wary 5.5?
Is there any successor to Wary 5.5? Any plan?
[Precise 571 on AMD Athlon XP 2000+ with 512MB RAM]
[Fatdog 720 on Intel Pentium B960 with 4GB RAM]
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[Fatdog 720 on Intel Pentium B960 with 4GB RAM]
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Wary 5 was long term supported and 'fixed' right up to a few years ago and even now works really well IMO on older kit.
On my current session I'm running Wary 5.3 using a XVesa graphics server under a Tahr6 kernel (3.14.54 i.e. recent so much of new hardware support is included) with Wary 5.5 app software overlaid (loaded as a SFS). i.e. pretty generic graphics with a pretty complete (right up to near most recent) set of firmware/drivers/modules, with apps that have been around the block and patched/fixed to have ironed out many of the bugs (I've only just uploaded a image of the Kernel 3.14 with Wary 5.3 barebone http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 518#871518. If you download Wary 5.5 and strip out the /root/Startup content from the puppy_wary_5.5.sfs you can then sfs load that and have access to all the apps in Wary 5.5).
On my current session I'm running Wary 5.3 using a XVesa graphics server under a Tahr6 kernel (3.14.54 i.e. recent so much of new hardware support is included) with Wary 5.5 app software overlaid (loaded as a SFS). i.e. pretty generic graphics with a pretty complete (right up to near most recent) set of firmware/drivers/modules, with apps that have been around the block and patched/fixed to have ironed out many of the bugs (I've only just uploaded a image of the Kernel 3.14 with Wary 5.3 barebone http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 518#871518. If you download Wary 5.5 and strip out the /root/Startup content from the puppy_wary_5.5.sfs you can then sfs load that and have access to all the apps in Wary 5.5).
I've been using wary551 with a 'few (58 )' individual updates for quite a while now and even with all the later versions I consider it the best all-round version for 32bit still. I did 'racy' it though for the added video level.
Playing around with T2, I had at one stage considering building either a Full Racy-T2 or a MYZ-T2 (basic system with no user apps) with one of BarryK's updated Version Package Lists. I also want to do a Puppy Wayland when I can get my head around it properly as for graphics it beats X hands down and most packages can run on wayland or have wayland-clones available.
But, at present my other 'hobby' of Scanlation is taking most of my spare time so it must wait till my part in a number of series end in January. I've promised 'her' I shall cut-back (scanlation not linux) and so I shall look at it then.
@Snayak,
Open one of your messages and check if the 'Notify me when a reply is posted' box near the bottom is still ticked, if so check your spam settings or ask your isp if they have blocked this site for some reason.
UPDATE: 27nov2015
I have decided to
1-build a packageset with T2's builder to give me updated packages and the latest kernel. These will be bz2 packages not pet's.
2- Use barry's T2 0-pre make a packages list and set from the newly built packages.
3- Use the T2 Packages and with an old woof version that was around when Racy 5.5.1 was done and see if I can build a updated ?5.5.1 x86 with the latest packages.
That should keep me busy, it will be interesting what happens. The only thing I havent decided is whether to do a full racy or just a myz2 (cutdown) puppy.
Playing around with T2, I had at one stage considering building either a Full Racy-T2 or a MYZ-T2 (basic system with no user apps) with one of BarryK's updated Version Package Lists. I also want to do a Puppy Wayland when I can get my head around it properly as for graphics it beats X hands down and most packages can run on wayland or have wayland-clones available.
But, at present my other 'hobby' of Scanlation is taking most of my spare time so it must wait till my part in a number of series end in January. I've promised 'her' I shall cut-back (scanlation not linux) and so I shall look at it then.
@Snayak,
Open one of your messages and check if the 'Notify me when a reply is posted' box near the bottom is still ticked, if so check your spam settings or ask your isp if they have blocked this site for some reason.
UPDATE: 27nov2015
I have decided to
1-build a packageset with T2's builder to give me updated packages and the latest kernel. These will be bz2 packages not pet's.
2- Use barry's T2 0-pre make a packages list and set from the newly built packages.
3- Use the T2 Packages and with an old woof version that was around when Racy 5.5.1 was done and see if I can build a updated ?5.5.1 x86 with the latest packages.
That should keep me busy, it will be interesting what happens. The only thing I havent decided is whether to do a full racy or just a myz2 (cutdown) puppy.
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Hi snayak,
If I've read your first post correctly, the computer on which you're running wary only has 256 Mbs of RAM. With that little RAM almost all of the newer Pups either won't boot to desktop or run very poorly. RAM is now cheap, comparatively speaking, and Puppy Devs have been concentrating on creating Pups better able to take advantage of the greater resources customarily found on more recent computers.
Perhaps Lupu revitalized would be serviceable especially if you add a swap partition or swap-drive. The one named lupu-5.2.8.7-20150702.ISO available from here, https://www.mediafire.com/folder/y3rkzhjz0ooes/Disk_Images-5.2.8.7, is worth a try. rerwin has been very conscientious in updating Lupu revitalized with the latest software, patches and bugfixes Lucid could handle. 20150702 indicates the date of its last update.
Or try rufwoof's suggestion.
mikesLr
If I've read your first post correctly, the computer on which you're running wary only has 256 Mbs of RAM. With that little RAM almost all of the newer Pups either won't boot to desktop or run very poorly. RAM is now cheap, comparatively speaking, and Puppy Devs have been concentrating on creating Pups better able to take advantage of the greater resources customarily found on more recent computers.
Perhaps Lupu revitalized would be serviceable especially if you add a swap partition or swap-drive. The one named lupu-5.2.8.7-20150702.ISO available from here, https://www.mediafire.com/folder/y3rkzhjz0ooes/Disk_Images-5.2.8.7, is worth a try. rerwin has been very conscientious in updating Lupu revitalized with the latest software, patches and bugfixes Lucid could handle. 20150702 indicates the date of its last update.
Or try rufwoof's suggestion.
mikesLr
He needs to use 5.2.8.7 with kernel 3.2.48 (Precise Retro Kernel)
or it is also known as Sulu2 K3.2.48.
http://www.mediafire.com/download/trph1 ... 150702.iso
or it is also known as Sulu2 K3.2.48.
http://www.mediafire.com/download/trph1 ... 150702.iso
Is there a thread about Lupu revitalized? I like lupu it's fast. Is this the version we are talking about?mikeslr wrote:
Perhaps Lupu revitalized would be serviceable especially if you add a swap partition or swap-drive. The one named lupu-5.2.8.7-20150702.ISO available from here, https://www.mediafire.com/folder/y3rkzhjz0ooes/Disk_Images-5.2.8.7, is worth a try. rerwin has been very conscientious in updating Lupu revitalized with the latest software, patches and bugfixes Lucid could handle. 20150702 indicates the date of its last update.
Or try rufwoof's suggestion.
mikesLr
http://puppylinux.org/wikka/Puppy528
edit:: I think this is the thread:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=90461
Regarding Wary and Racy. Racy runs much faster than Wary on a virtual machine inside a new computer. However, I dislike that I have to load sfs files on startup with racy, whereas on Wary I can just click them to load them. Both Racy & Wary could use upgraded video and USB drivers (If possible given the old kernel). Running them in a virtual machine on a new computer, I can only use USB 1, usb sticks and I can't get the wide screen to work for modern laptops on either Wary or Racy.
use load on the fly to load a full Puppy ? Yes we can !
merci rufwoof to confirm a method that i use.
use load on the fly to load a full Puppy ? Yes we can !
use load on the fly to load a full Puppy ? Yes we can !
Improved by WOLX because WOLX speaks French.
Try PRER 5.5.2, Puppy Racy Enhanced
At home, kernel 3.0.66 refuse Xorg, i use it under vesa.
Wary 5.5 (3.0.25) is the perfect Puppy for UK Citizen in my opinion, in my favourite five. Improved by WOLX because WOLX speaks French.
At home, kernel 3.0.66 refuse Xorg, i use it under vesa.
Wary 5.5 (3.0.25) is the perfect Puppy for UK Citizen in my opinion, in my favourite five. Improved by WOLX because WOLX speaks French.
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hello,
you might try OVPreices-retro 5.8 that i did you can get it from here
http://smokey01.com/Oldyeller/ovprecise/
it might work you can read on it at http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 641#738641
Enjoy
you might try OVPreices-retro 5.8 that i did you can get it from here
http://smokey01.com/Oldyeller/ovprecise/
it might work you can read on it at http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 641#738641
Enjoy
"Real" Chrome (ie Google Chrome) requires a 64-bit system. Older versions (which will automatically update and break) require at least a Pentium 4 CPU.
Chromium is nearly identical, and available in 32bit form, but the way it's compiled, it still will not work on anything older than a P4. You would have to compile it yourself (which, from what I've heard, is a real doozy) for an older CPU target (such as i386) if you wanted it to work on older systems.
Even then, because of its memory requirements -- not a good idea.
Go with PaleMoon or SlimBoat if you don't mind an unmaintained browser or SlimJet if you can make it run.
Chromium is nearly identical, and available in 32bit form, but the way it's compiled, it still will not work on anything older than a P4. You would have to compile it yourself (which, from what I've heard, is a real doozy) for an older CPU target (such as i386) if you wanted it to work on older systems.
Even then, because of its memory requirements -- not a good idea.
Go with PaleMoon or SlimBoat if you don't mind an unmaintained browser or SlimJet if you can make it run.
I will try with my ACER 1640,
dark city, hum... The important is what is on your screen. Moving pixels or not moving.. Any video should be difficult to watch, in my opinion.
Long time users of the forum should remember or browse the forum topics around 2006 or 2007
I will try with my ACER 1640, but RAM is 512MB. not 256MB ,
"Maybe a standalone youtube player application would be best?" yes, it would. Download video on your computer. The browser will not occupy RAM, and let the processor to use MBs in RAM only for the video..
Long time users of the forum should remember or browse the forum topics around 2006 or 2007
I will try with my ACER 1640, but RAM is 512MB. not 256MB ,
"Maybe a standalone youtube player application would be best?" yes, it would. Download video on your computer. The browser will not occupy RAM, and let the processor to use MBs in RAM only for the video..
Youtube works on seamonkey for Wary 5.5 stright out of the box. Youtube says it isn't supported but look for the button on the youtube website which says decline.darkcity wrote:What is the best way of running youtube on older computers with around 256Mb?
You need flash or html5, how does chrome run?
Maybe a standalone youtube player application would be best?
I would recomand for older PCs also getting one of the sfs versions of the browsers so you can unload it when you don't need it.